Ror Revisits: X-Men 3: The Last Stand

Ror Revisits: X-Men 3: The Last Stand

Yes, it's the Ratner movie! Pretty much despised by comic book fans the world over. But forgetting the fanboy gripes, is X3 really that bad? Click for my take..

Review Opinion
By MarkCassidy - Feb 27, 2011 06:02 AM EST
Filed Under: X-Men
Source: Ror Reviews

I recently watched all four X movies again. I have already gone back to X-Men 1 and X-Men Origins: Wolverine so I decided to leave X2 for later and move on to Brett Ratner's X3, or X-Men: The Last Stand, which before Origins came out, was pretty much seen as the black sheep of the franchise by fanboys. Critically it was also the worst received of the three. But, it actually made the most money and many non comic fans really enjoyed it.



So going back to it after a few years, does it deserve all the hate? I remember the first time I saw the movie I actually enjoyed it. I was aware while watching that it didn't seem to be holding up in comparison to Brian Singer's previous films but was taken in by the spectacle nonetheless. And maybe there was an element of self delusion there too since the trailer had been so good, I almost wouldn't allow myself to dislike the movie! Of course that was just while I was watching it. Afterwards on reflection the disappointment really crept in.

X3 follows on from X2 by using elements(well, AN element) of The Dark Phoenix Saga from the comics, and mixes in a little from Joss Whedon's Gifted for good measure. Jean(Famke Jannsen), believed dead at the end of the last film, returns with her evil alter ego in control. She kills Cyclops(James Marsten) and Xavier(Patrick Stewart) and hooks up with Magneto(Ian McKellen) and his brotherhood. Magneto is on a crusade to rid the world of "the cure". A serum capable of changing a mutant into a human. The remaining X-Men, led by Wolverine(Hugh Jackman) and joined by Beast(Kelsey Grammer) set out to stop him. With Wolverine's feelings for Jean threatening to compromise their mission.

There is a bit more to it, but basically that's your lot plot wise. As with any CBM, there are 2 ways you can look at X3. From a fanboy perspective it's a disaster. Taking what it wants from 2 comic arcs and tossing the rest(in many cases the really good stuff!) away, killing off major characters(although that happens so much in the comics anyway you wonder why that bothers em so much), brining in characters like Angel and Juggernaut and then completely wasting them. Unfortunately, disregarding any changes from the comics and watching as a film fan only it doesn't fare much better. Studio stooge Brett Ratner was brought on by Fox only after a plethora of actual directors left the project. The man seems incapable of wringing emotion out of any scene, even one in which a beloved character is killed. All of the heart and smarts of Singer's films is gone, and we are left with more explosions for compensation. In fairness to Ratner, the action scenes are handled well. The Golden Gate bridge taking a trip and the scene is Jean Grey's family home are standouts, and there are many more scenes that WOULD have been very successful had we given a damn! There is very little in the way of character development in this movie. The main characters have an arc(of sorts) but it's basically just paint by numbers "he does this in this scene, then he does this in the next scene" and nothing ever really feels at stake for these guys. Add to that the criminal underuse of the likes of Rogue(Anna Paquin) and Angel(Ben Foster) who is brought it for literally no other reason than to be shown on screen- "Look guys, we gave you Angel!, our movie is obviously more fan pleasing! Right?" Wrong. One could argue that the film does attempt to appeal to the fans by doing this type of thing. Ratner shows the danger room, sentinels(sort of). We get a "fastball special" and see Ice-Man in his comic book incarnation etc. Fine, I want to see all of those things but I want to see them in a good movie. Work on THAT first!

Performance wise it's a mixed back. Newcomers Grammer and Ellen Page as Shadowcat are standouts, with Janssen giving her best performance as Jean yet. Unfortunately the rest of the returning cast seem to be on auto pilot. Even Hugh Jackman, who so frequently delivers even when the movie isn't up to much, phones it in as Wolverine. Don't even get me started on Halle Berry's Storm. Ian McKellen(Magneto) and Patrick Stewart(Xavier) are good but not THEM good! And we have a whole load of other mutants running around and displaying their awesome powers without ever opening their traps(Daniel Cudmore(Colossus) I'm looking at you).

The action and special effects are of a high standard and there are some lofty themes and intelligent ideas lurking in the script by Simon Kinberg and Zak Penn. Some even filter through in certain scenes. If only Ratner had resisted his music video sensibilities and really took the care to craft something of substance, maybe this could have been great. As it is it's not terrible, merely at best, serviceable. And that is not a worthy conclusion to what was building up to be a great trilogy.




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LEEE777
LEEE777 - 2/27/2011, 6:34 AM
Lol, it deserved more than the hate, this and origins the biggest slap in us X-Men fans faces!

Only decent thing in this was Grammer as BEAST and MULTI MAN played by whats-his-name...

Good review ROR, you found something to love, mark my words when First Class comes out tho, this'll be classed as an X-Men masterpiece! : p


Damn dat Fox! :)


1 out of 5 stars is too much for this movie! : P
Exiles
Exiles - 2/27/2011, 6:39 AM
the biggest problem with this movie was the fact that they tried to to join two VERY different storylines together either should have stuck to wheadon' cure storyline or just done the dark phoenix. The action was good thats undeniable, but the story just [frick]ed it up, if it stuck to one storyline it might have been better. They should have just done the Gifted storyline but obviously it would have been slightly altered.
ngu13
ngu13 - 2/27/2011, 6:41 AM
i didnt know their was a extra sceen after the film .. i watched it last nite
Dusk
Dusk - 2/27/2011, 6:43 AM
Halle Berry really got on my nerves in these movies but especially in X3. 'I love what you've done with your hair!' VOMIT. And the whole 'lets kill off the founder and leader of X-Men in an X-Men movie' idea was dumb.
McGeckoWilson
McGeckoWilson - 2/27/2011, 6:45 AM
This movie is awful and not just as an X-Men movie, it's an awful movie-movie. Rushed acting, special effects and unimaginative action scenes (except for maybe the scene where Prof. X dies). The third movie in an epic franchise should never be less than an hour and a half long. There is no second act to the movie, except for the one scene where Wolverine is running around in the woods for five minutes. Kelsey Grammer as Beast is amazing casting, which only makes this movie even worse because he's wasted. This whole movie reeks of being rushed, just because Fox wanted to make money off of it for the summer.

Thank god for Bryan Singer but I really hope that "First Class" doesn't go the same route, because it looks amazing. Unfortunately, so did X3. And that movie had Matthew Vaughn directing as well before he walked away.
McGeckoWilson
McGeckoWilson - 2/27/2011, 6:47 AM
Oh, and the one-liners from Hugh Jackman were horrendous. "Did he just call me 'boy'?"
Denn1s
Denn1s - 2/27/2011, 6:58 AM
i really like X3. except for the killing of cyke, it was a solid film. it had the best action scenes in the whole trilogy. ratner knows how to do action scenes. and don't blame him for the film being bad. it was the scriptwriter's fault, not ratner's. he directed what was given to him. of course it is not a masterpiece, but for the average moviegoer who knows the x-men only from the films, it is incredible. studios don't care for us fanboys who always find something to nitpick and whine...
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 2/27/2011, 7:06 AM
Ratner is most certainly at fault. Obviously a bad script is gonna [frick] any director up story wise, but 1)He shot the damn movie. There were scenes in there that would have worked had he had a [frick]ing clue what he was doing. Silly music video cuts and his refusal to hold on a scene for any proper amount of time so some emotion can be drawn from it make him as much of a problem as the script, which 2) wasn't even really that bad all things considered!

Thanks a lot DCF:)

Lee, Sure it will:) And Multiple man(Eric Dane) was in 2 scenes with one lien of dialog!

jbak368
jbak368 - 2/27/2011, 7:07 AM
I like X3 too. I didn't at first, but when I revisit it now I find it to be a pretty great action movie, with a few really good plot threads I'd still like to see carried into a 4th film (specifically the results of the cure). I'm glad this franchise is still going, and I'd go so far as to say the X-Men trilogy is the best comic book trilogy yet (at least until TDKR comes out), though I know that's not saying much.
One2three
One2three - 2/27/2011, 7:09 AM
I thought some of the action sequences were the best
in x3. Besides, some of the nussaince liberties fox
took from the comics i.e origins/storyline/character
designs/etc.. I did enjoy all the x-movies.
GeekMobRoanoke
GeekMobRoanoke - 2/27/2011, 7:19 AM
Just wait til the new movie comes out..It will be so awful it will make this one look so much better.. Remember "Batman And Robin"? It was so awful it made "Batman Forever" seem much better.
gambgel
gambgel - 2/27/2011, 7:21 AM
A good director can tell to the writers if a scene needs more work or not.

Ratner decided to shoot the scenes like we watched, so...

have your own conclusion.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 2/27/2011, 7:27 AM
XMEN FILMS NEED TO BE BACK IN MARVELS HANDS...PERIOD.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/27/2011, 7:33 AM
the problem with this & all other x-men films is wolverine they focus everything around him.

its like wolverine is the sun & everything x-related revolves around him.

the x-men are team not one man.

also they dropped the ball big time having colossus & juggernaunt in the same movie & they didn't even fight.

2.5/5 is too high a score for this movie.
Devilhunter318
Devilhunter318 - 2/27/2011, 7:43 AM
the movie woulda benefited so much from actually using the side characters it was given
Dusk
Dusk - 2/27/2011, 7:47 AM
@MARVEL72- I agree about the jugs and piotr fight being missed. Can you imagine if they found an awesome director, writer and producer that were also HUGE X-men nerds!? How great would THAT be?
deanwilkins
deanwilkins - 2/27/2011, 7:55 AM
For me, this movie really is a mixed bag. I really wanted to like it.

I agree with a lot of the review from above, so I'll just add my thoughts. The death of Professor X was cool, and since it's happened so many times in the comic, I accepted it. But killing Cyclops was stupid. James Marsden knows how to act and he was a great Cyclops when the 3 movies let him do something (which was rare).
I liked the story with Jean, including the performance of Famke Jansen.

What hurt the movie the most for me was:
1. Iceman had such a small, pathetic role. He was a wimpy loser in the movie.
2. Juggernaut. I was so excited that he would be in it. What we got was disgusting.
3. Colossus, who I was also excited to see in the movie. He looked and acted the part, so why wasn't he used?
4. Every moment Storm was in the movie. Nuff said.
5. Angel was used and abused. Terrible story there.

The writing in this movie was what killed it for me. I believe a good script existed at some point, but it was twisted and ruined. That's why there are some very good parts mixed with terrible parts.

I didn't buy this or Wolverine Origins. Not even on sale for $9.99. And if I saw them for $4.99, I still wouldn't buy them.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 2/27/2011, 8:00 AM
Great review! It was as bad as the other two (if not worse in terms of story and character decisions) but the action was at least far superior. Some cool moments too.
supertrackmonkey
supertrackmonkey - 2/27/2011, 8:24 AM
I didn't really like the action in this movie. It could have been so much better.

1) Why didn't Colossus and Juggernaut fight?
2) The fight scene between Pyro and Iceman were unimaginative. One character can control ice any way he wishes. The other can manipulate fire. Their fight scene sucked.
3) If you're going to kill off a main character (Cyclops), at least have him go out in style.
4) Unless it's Spider-man and it's a constant barde of jokes towards the villain, Cheesy one-liners don't make for a better action sequence.
5) I could go on, but it's pointless. The battle scenes lacked imagination and creativity.
YeaOkYea
YeaOkYea - 2/27/2011, 8:31 AM
I wanted to LOVE this movie after the trailer hyped it but after watching it I only thought it was ok. It had SOO much potential to be an epic ending to the trilogy with having the Phoenix & the Cure storylines but in the end we got half assed arcs. My major gripe was that it was rushed. Emotions, action, scene to scene, story, characters, etc... Everything was like, "Ok let's get from point A to point B as quick as possible!" This should easily have been at LEAST 2 & a half hours long preferably 3 hrs, but we didn't get that.

I didn't mind Cyclops being "killed" off screen (I mean c'mon he wasn't properly used in the other 2) but I think he should've came back at the end of the film to save the day, redeem himself for X1 & X2, & really show why he's the leader we all know. Angel, Beast, Ice-Man, Kitty Pryde, Rogue, Multiple Man, Juggernaut, Psylocke, etc... were all VERY under used. If they would have given these characters more of an opinion or involvement with what was happening around them it would have been great instead of them just being there to stand in the shot.

What I did like was that the film DID give us more action & fan favorites (Beast, the Danger Room, 1/4 of a Sentinel, Wolverine & Colossus fastball) but not enough to make up the lack luster/medocre story. I still enjoy watching this film but would've LOVED it if they had worked/concentrated on the 2 stories & characters...

PS- What happened to Nightcrawler??? We could've at least gotten a lame reason why he wasn't around. Did they think we wouldn't notice a kick ass character from X2 just missing? Involving him in the Cure would have been cool. Should he take it or shouldn't he?
Niem8211
Niem8211 - 2/27/2011, 8:35 AM
@Ror great review! Best review done so far on this movie.

@Lee I'm still with you this movie left such a sour taste. You would think Fox realized this and would have tried to regain fans by making Origins more comic related, but instead they destroyed character after character including every Fan Boys favorite character DP.

In every movie they have a chance to paint a masterpiece and instead they always come out with a child’s painting. You know there going in the wrong direction when non-Fan Boys hate the movies due to their lack of relevance.

All in all I give it 2 stars F**K FOX!


thewanderer
thewanderer - 2/27/2011, 9:11 AM
I enjoyed it, just wish it was about 10-15 minutes longer.

The plot was solid, despite what some will say.


Then again, I'm not a whiny fanboy.
MaddMonkk
MaddMonkk - 2/27/2011, 9:41 AM
I enjoyed Grammar as Beast, I wish Angel and Juggy had more interaction with the others, and I hated That Professor X "died". I liked the movie but not as much as X2 and a lot less than Origins. Very Good review.
NightBoyWonder
NightBoyWonder - 2/27/2011, 9:49 AM
What set off the bad vibe for me in this movie was.... killing Cyclops off. I mean seriously!!! He was kinda used in X-Men, then he was barely there in X2, but at the end of X2 it left him open to finally take control as leader!!! Not Hale Berry or Wolverine (she's Halle Berry, she is not storm). But I did like that Jean killed the professor, and then we could've used Cyclops. And then Angel didn't do anything.... he didn't even wear the uniform!!! And then the cliffhanger..... but the action scenes deserve a lot of credit, well done, and some awesome special effects. But the movie still doesn't hold a candle to X2 or X-Men.
Technoman
Technoman - 2/27/2011, 9:53 AM
I liked it, actually.
Technoman
Technoman - 2/27/2011, 9:55 AM
BUT I call for a reboot.
mattattack
mattattack - 2/27/2011, 10:00 AM
The last stand was truly horrible.

1. Script sucked dick. Hey let's kill Scott and Professor X cause it'll be epic! Yeah cause there was justified reason to right? Dont even get me started on the stupid shit at the end where Prof. X is in another person's body. They also told the phoenix story the worst possible way. It's just insanely bad.

2. Brett Ratner. Do I really need to go into it? He is not, nor will he ever be a good director. Keep him directing stupid amateur comedies and leave the big projects to good directors like Vaughn.

3. The acting was bad due to Ratner's inability to direct.

4. Action scenes? They sucked too! The danger room was a god damn joke.

5. Logan was a pussy in this movie and Beast looked dumb as shit. The whole look of the movie was bad. Did you see juggernaut? I mean seriously. Horrible.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 2/27/2011, 10:04 AM
ROR @ Yeah them 2 scenes of Eric Dane were cool lol...

: p

Nahhh, even tho hated VINNIE as JUGG he was actually quite funny, shitty rubber suit though lol.


Niem8211 @ Good man, heh heh! ; P
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 2/27/2011, 10:25 AM
TEA @ Hahahahahaha! : D
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 2/27/2011, 10:26 AM
Epic EPIC FAILURE
Slashercon
Slashercon - 2/27/2011, 11:42 AM
The film is terrible. As a comic book movie, it is incrdeible load of crap, but as a stand alone sequel it is certainly different then the other two, but not in a good way.
deamon
deamon - 2/27/2011, 12:12 PM
Problem of this movie it was too short for so many stories. We didn't saw Cyclops dead and why Jean was laying after all. IMO it's good to explain this scene in X4 and introduce Mr. Sinister. I have enough of human vs. mutant war, enough of Magneto. Give us powerful mutant who want extermination of poor and weak mutants, give us Mr. Sinister. Madrox was arrested in X3, now he can be leader of government group X-Factor, which spy and helps other mutants. They could help Morlocks, group attacked by Marauders. Also we don't know Callisto is dead, maybe she just lost eye in battle in X3, and in X4 she could kidnap Angel. Then during Morlocks massacre, Angel loses his wings. Gambit (Holloway here) informs X-Men about everything, and tells he knows where is Scott. X-Factor goes underground and fights against Marauders, during this Angel is kidnapped by Apocalypse (prolog for X5). Bla, bla, bla... Final battle of the movie would be good: X-Men + X-Factor vs. Sinister and his Marauders/Nasty Boys.
I'm waiting just for ,,X-Men 4: Mutant massacre" right now, and with Singer as director. No more prequels!
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