The reason we SHOULD see Wolverine in theatres!

The reason we SHOULD see Wolverine in theatres!

I’d never thought I’d say this but giving FOX a break, might just be what the doctor ordered.

Editorial Opinion
By Shaman - Apr 03, 2009 09:04 AM EST

Well, a lot has been said on the upcoming Wolverine movie in a negative manner but like I have said before I am not nor will I ever be a "Fan Boy". I'm a fan. So regardless of liberties taken, I would've watched the movie anyway. At first I thought that they were truly going to screw over Deadpool in an unredeemable way which got me saying "Screw this, I’ll wait till one of my friends buys it and watch it for free" since to me, it would have been the same as watching a “Superman in a Royal Canadian Mounted Police uniform” movie which would be down right “iffy”. But then I realised that no matter what they do with the character (chopping his head off and all), he's actually one of the only ones that actually CAN come back to give us what we want. What I look for in a movie is for the actors to SHOW their appreciation of the character they're playing which really transpires greatly through the screen. Here are a few perfect examples to explain my point:

Hugh Jackman: The guy's Coo Coo for Wolvie puffs!!! It shows as much as it did when Christopher Reeves delivered Superman. Very rarely does an actor go the extra mile as he does dedicating himself to make the fans happy… you know, the actual movie goers that MATTER! To make the character be much more than just a role, to give him LIFE!!! Regardless if he’s wearing a tank top and jeans instead of yellow spandex, regardless of the details pertaining to his previous comic book adventures, to see an actor give a damn to a point where he literally breathes life into the character should be enough to make you appreciate the movie you’re watching. Tom Jane did exactly that in his version of The Punisher. Yes the movie was a piece of shit but he made me enjoy it none the less. Granted Stevenson practically took the character off of the page and smacked it on screen but he didn’t relate to the majority as much as Jane did. Tom Jane related to our “real life-human side” that most of us tend to look for in movies. From the family man he was in the beginning to the destroyed human being, eating his pancakes in that diner, listening to that idiot hick sing his song… to The Punisher doing what he does best, giving to the criminals what the justice system can’t. That movie was as much flawed as it was perfect.



On the other side of the coin, you have Halle Berry which obviously didn't give a flying fragg about "STORM". She just wanted more screen time for HER. Catwoman ring any bells??? She was NEVER Catwoman, she was Halle Berry in a cat-whore outfit. She was selfish and it TOTALLY showed. She screwed that character over!!! In what comic do you see STORM having that much importance aside from when she became evil in the savage lands??? Never. It's unfortunate but her character was never meant to have that much importance. It is a SUPPORTING character. Berry was just jealous of Jean Grey hoggin' all the good lines. Tough shit, that's X-MEN! It has nothing to do with her skin color. If Bishop was brought in an AOA/X-movie, HE'd have major importance.



There is another example that might not be as popular as Halle Berry but still gets the point across. In my honest opinion, Christian Bale as Batman is a perfect example. The guy takes his "JOB" seriously since he's sooooo professional IT'S DIIISSSSSSTRAAAACTING!!!! But he doesn't give a shit whether he's Bruce Wayne or John Conner and it damn well shows so don't even try to say any different. We just let it slide in his case because he is so good at what he does that we can live with him not getting giddy over a character. Batman is a role of a life time but he takes it as going to work on a Monday morning kinda thing. THAT is the very reason why I will always prefer Michael Keaton over Bale any day of the week no matter how many TDK's he dishes out. Keaton LOVED being Batman, hell he even loved being Bruce Wayne!!! That's the kind of actors we NEED for our comic book movies. Robert Downey Jr. anyone???



And X-men Origins: Wolverine is a whole bucket full of just THAT!!! Actors who DO give a shit of who they're given the PRIVILEGE of playing. Liev Schreiber, you can tell he LOVES his role as we can tell from mere trailers that he delivered a way better performance than Tyler Mane ever could. Not because of natural acting talent, because Mane took the character to showcase how big and scary he is in real life. If you watch X-men again, you'll all see just how EMPTY his character is. And it has nothing to do with the script either. I dare you to remake it with Liev in his place delivering the same exact lines. The results would be astounding. Just by his glare, you can see that he's LIVING the character. Ryan Reynolds is another great example of it. HE LOVES Deadpool!!! He was going into filming HOPING to get a spin-off but appreciated the role so much that he would have willingly contributed to FOX's insulting “raping and destruction” of the character if it meant giving him the opportunity to portray him on screen in anyway shape or form.



I'm sure the same could be said of Taylor Playing Gambit but we just haven't heard much from him in as many interviews as the others. But it shows that he IS aware that his role is in fact a PRIVILEGE. He certainly got through a pep talk or two with Hugh relating the fans reaction to seeing a glimpse of Gambit at the Comic-con! It was Astronomical!!! When I saw Hugh's reaction to the fans reaction I almost peed my pants laughing at how STARTLED he was!!! I mean, he knew but hadn't the slightest idea of how intensely Gambit is loved.



In short us-fans might not be getting what we WANT out of this film but for the second time in comic book movie history (Ironman being the first); we'll be getting what we NEED!!! And it should show to one and all exactly how comic book movies SHOULD be made from any vantage point on the set. It should be made with respect, dedication but MOST of all… APRECIATION. See you in theatres!!!

Thanks Myth, for keeping the spirit of the movie alive for each and everyone of us!

The “Shaman” has spoken!!!
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adamant877
adamant877 - 4/3/2009, 10:17 AM
Good article Shaman, and I agree with you.
It's too easy to get lost in the amount of artistic license that has been taken, I know I'm guilty! But it's too early to say, as none of us have seen the actual (completed) film yet, and most of the gripes that we would have would be premature and unwarrented.
I, for one, plan to see this movie in theaters when it's released (hopefully before ;-), and I can't wait to see the final product. The actors sure seem to enjoy their roles, and performances from the likes of Hugh Jackman and Leiv Schrieber are usually top notch anyway.
Thinks for putting a little perspective into place to "calm the masses", so to speak, it's refreshing to hear a clear minded outlook for a change!
divo
divo - 4/3/2009, 10:17 AM
Well said man. Im sick of seeing actors take these roles for the cash, showing no respect to the character or the fans.
number10
number10 - 4/3/2009, 10:18 AM
rock on man!
FattSmelliott
FattSmelliott - 4/3/2009, 10:21 AM
I will see this film as I am a huge Wolverine Fan. I just hope that it is good as before this whole Weapon XI thing this film looked fantastic (especially with the director from Tsotsi who seemed to be going the right way)and although I would like to see more X-men films I know that is not going to happen and so this is a close runner up (as long as its not like X3)

Great little piece by the way. I know this isn't going to happen any time soon but now that Marvel is nowhere near going backrupt I would like to see them buy back their characters like spider-man and the x-men and create the marvel universe (like what they're doing with the avengers) as no matter how much I love the first 2 spider-mans and x-mens I don't want to see more of the same I want to see them going down the Iron Man/Hulk root... anybody agree?
frank666
frank666 - 4/3/2009, 10:32 AM
I have heard rumours about the film. And I am SO GOING to watch this film in the theatres and getting the DVD. Although I was unhappy about Wolverines role in the X-men, in the aspect that the movies could have been called wolverine and the x-men, I enjoyed him very much. I just hope this movie will be the first of many "origins" movies.
Oh did i mention I am SO GOING to watch this :-)
FrankGarret
FrankGarret - 4/3/2009, 10:36 AM
Dissagree.

Ledger called comic books stupid, and I'm glad I saw him as the Joker instead of someone else who read Batman growing up.

All I want to see is good performances of good material, I don't care if the actors feel "privelaged".

I will see Wolverine, however, because I like the actors and the characters and am not bothered by any degree of not-too radical changes.
NEXUS
NEXUS - 4/3/2009, 10:48 AM
I LOVE Marvel and I LOVE comics!
With that in mind I HATE Fox, they distroy comic movies.
I understand why they do it (money).As a fan, I have to
see the movie and buy it! Thats why we are who we are(comic fans).Would we be fans if we didnt?As for the actors, they have as much control over the movies,as we do.All they can do is there job, and all we can do is support the movies.
Id rather them try, then not make enything at all.

Just my opinion:)
Osiris
Osiris - 4/3/2009, 10:56 AM
I totally agree with you Shaman, even if the movie sucks (script wise) it is really the actor(s) portrayal of the character(s) that make it worth anything if an actor loves his role as that person then they will portray them as best they can and it will show on film how much they care.

an example would be James Marsters as Piccolo, yeah the movie wasn't great due to script but he was so in love with his character that even if they do a reboot sometime in the future or make a sequel regardless, if he isn't piccolo i will be disappointed he put a lot into that role and tried to live up to the fans wishes and make him what the fans wanted to see.

Michel Keaton was the best Batman/Bruce Wayne and always will be to me. Chris Nolan writes awesome batman movies but Bale is meh as batman he is to professional it's just a job to him.

I am hoping for a Deadpool spin off from this cause like you said he is the only character that can come back from anything besides Wolvie, if they do a spin off of him Ryan needs to force them to stay true to the character or not do it and i don't know if i can see anyone else pulling off DP like Reynolds could.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 4/3/2009, 11:01 AM
AMEN to that! Couldn't agree more!

Not many will get this, but to use music as an analogy:

Bale (although I love him) is like a classical musician. They are the best there is. Every note is hit perfectly and can leave you moved by the sheer playing ability shown. But somehow they lack feeling in what they play.

Hugh is like a blues musician. Yes, there's the odd bum note but there is so much feeling in what's being played that the mistakes become a necessary part of the performance and can leave you completely captivated.

If you've not guessed, I'm a musician. I've had people come up to me saying "I've past my grade 8 guitar exam" but listening to them play is cringe worthy and all done parrot fashion. I know people who have learned to play by ear and feel alone and each one achieves a warmth that has left people awe struck.

OK, so I'm probably the only one who knows what I'm banging on about! LOL
dizzle716
dizzle716 - 4/3/2009, 11:04 AM
@Frank: I can kinda see where you're coming from. It doesn't always take an actor whom is head-over-heals for the part he is playing to deliver a revered performance. It does, however, take someone that takes their job seriously and cares about the quality of the product they put out. If they are only worried about the paycheck or whether or not they're going to get an Oscar for their performance, most of the time, that character is going to seem hollow.

BUT, it always adds a little more flare to a character when the actor playing them immerses themselves into the character's world. Knowing the character inside and out, the eccentricities, what the fans know and love the character for; that is the little extra that makes a good actor stand out from a GREAT actor.

Ledger was a great actor because he loved his job and wanted to put out quality. But, that doesn't take anything away from an actor that lives the part of the character they are playing. Sometimes the actor that is immersed in the role makes that character better by being that character, acting as that character would in real life and adding their own twist on things. They may ad-lib within the realm of the script and make things that much more like the character they are portraying; because let's face it, not all writers, directors or producers are "fans" of the movies they are making. This leads to them either sticking strictly to the script or taking their own "creative liberty" which many fans take offense with.
thwip284
thwip284 - 4/3/2009, 11:06 AM
This is a great article. It does make the experience of watching the movie more enjoyable when you know that the actors want to play the character instead of looking at it as a pay check. As for Halle Berry as Storm. She was a good fit for X-men especially with the a list cast, but her Catwoman def needs to be left on the shelves. She didn't get the character, and the script was terrible. As far as Bales Batman I loved it. Fans complain about the voice, but everytime I hear him tell Joker "Drop the gun" reminds me of a Western, and the voice fits perfect.
loganaspatch
loganaspatch - 4/3/2009, 11:10 AM
agreed. except bale, he trys his best as bruce wayne to me it comes off as the character he played in american pshycho, idk maybe this is the best he can do as playing a educated intelligent arrogant character which is what bruce wayne is?

but good article, and i will still go see wolverine less then a month now baby!!!
MetalHead
MetalHead - 4/3/2009, 11:16 AM
Frank, I'm more on your side here.

Shaman, you lost me when you started ripping Bale. The guy doesn't make bad movies! Period. How can you knock a guy who MAKES a movie? Who else could've nailed "American Psycho" like that? And sorry but I love him as Bruce Wayne. To me I believe him as Bruce versus watching Michael Keaton, who I never felt was believable as a billionaire playboy living the life. Not even to mention how awesome he looks like he'll be as John Connor. Even "The Prestige" was excellent. Why do I care if he eats, sleeps and breathes a character on his FREE TIME if when he's caught on film he is nailing the roles? Sorry, not buying that one.

And as far as the Sabretooth thing goes, that WAS NOT Tyler Mane's fault! The guy was in a total of maybe 6 or 8 minutes of the film and only had about EIGHT LINES!!! How is that NOT the fault of the script?!? Hell, Liev Schreiber has more lines in any one of the trailers than Tyler Mane had in the entire movie! And not to mention that they totally wasted the character's potential in the first film. Where, exactly, do you see that Tyler Mane could have improved the character? In one of the 10-second clips that he was in throughout the movie?

That being said, though, I agree with you on your Hugh Jackman assessment and I do appreciate how he takes the fact that he IS Wolverine and he knows that he has the power to give the fans what they want and is doing everything in his power to do so.
Shaman
Shaman - 4/3/2009, 11:25 AM
Well i thank you all for the "cudos" but Myth is the reason i wrote this. He made me believe. If you haven't read his review, it could be somewhat of a source for comfort:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/TheMyth7/news/?a=6844

Frank you do raise a good point but i have to say that i totally agree with Howlett04's analogy of music. If we take Ledger for an example, he did not "appreciate" the role he was playing and... it kinda showed. DO NOT GET ME WRONG here LOL His performance was stellar BUT his "non-appreciation" is THE EXTRA MILE that could have blown Jack Nicholson's out the water!!! Although Ledger WAS stellar, he COULD have been that much more monumental!

Howlett04- It is the same with my drawings. Sure i can draw the portrait of practically anybody but the finished product won't be as remarkable as one from a face i really appreciate and admire. It's the reason i started to draw portraits to begin with, the faces were soooo beautifull, i just had to draw them :)

MetalHead- With all due respect, we've seen a handfull of tv clips in which Liev only has a line or maybe two. So we've seen just about enough to compare him to Mane. And as i said, it doesn't take "lines" or a script to deliver a performance, just the look in his eyes is body language enough for me to REALISE just how much he does appreciate and LIVE his role! And i never said Bale was a bad Batman although he does lack as Bruce Wayne, i just said Keaton was better IMHO. So agree to disagree :)

And so i go back to the drawing board to bring you more art in my galeries which i should post up this week end. Just click on "PICTURES" above if your interested at all :)
ottoevans
ottoevans - 4/3/2009, 11:27 AM
good article. But i think Thomas Jane along side Paul Walker are the worse actors ever in the history of film. And regardless if Bale cares about his character or not he always performs icredible as them. I guess since hes so talented its easy for him
superman7
superman7 - 4/3/2009, 11:38 AM
I like this article, But if you own a copy of the collector's addition of batman begins, Christian Bale repeatedly says how honored he was to play such an iconic character. He talks over and over about how great the character is and how he wanted to portray him correctly. He made certain demands of how he must be portrayed to Christopher Nolan... so much that in all of the shots without dialogue he made him "hunched over in the shadows with his cape billowing in the wind". I think Christian does not necessarily approach any movie as just another job. He is a method actor who delves into his roles.
Sorry for the tangent but im a hard core Bale fan ever since Equalibrium and American Psycho... which, combined, those two roles basically make up Batman. The only problem I had with him is that he overplayed certain aspects... such as the newly renowned, guttural "Bat-Voice". But oh well. Thats my opinion
sniktchick74
sniktchick74 - 4/3/2009, 11:39 AM
@Shaman- Great article- I couldn't agree more! Come on May 1!

@Howlett04- I know what you're getting at, good analogy-spot on description of Hugh and Bale's acting.
FrankGarret
FrankGarret - 4/3/2009, 11:40 AM
@Shaman:

Seriously, man, I doubt the fact that Schrieber's definite superiority as Creed over Mane can be attributed to him appreciating the role more as much as it is a matter of Schrieber being a more talened actor. Very, very bad example.

And I have to say, I don't see your point about Bale not appreciating Batman. You might say he's as appreciative about Batman as any other role, but that's because Bale's obsessivly devoted to each and every one of his roles. Hell, look at the machinest.
shibazz
shibazz - 4/3/2009, 11:42 AM
Nice piece Shaman.... Since i have seen it though and i dont want to spoil it at all for you all, but please answer me this. why would anybody attack Sabertooth knowing that wolverine is the only one with a chance to stop or kill him? Only then to get your life taken in under ten seconds. serious problems with this movie.
KevinBacon01
KevinBacon01 - 4/3/2009, 11:46 AM
You would think by now hollywood would understand the way to make a good comic book movie is to make it accurate to the material it is supposed to represent. We are comic book fans not hollywood writer fans, we want to see the material we loved portrayed not someone that is unfamilar with it trying to give us their interpretation. It seems pretty simple, stay true to the character, dont go taking liberties with the stories. But i am amazed at the crap that is still spit out as a "comic book movie." And to me the new Wolverine movie is a fail for one simple reason Deadpool. I would have thought the normal way of going about it is hey lets write these characters as well as we can and make it successful, then we can make more money by creating possible outlets for other movies. If money is their true motive they didn't show it because they had so many opportunities with the people in this film to make 30 different spin offs if they wanted and they ruined every single one of those chances.
BuckyB7588
BuckyB7588 - 4/3/2009, 11:59 AM
After watching the leak, I thought it was really good, and I'm definitely going to see it in theaters, and I think will be even better in theaters.
dogchasingcars
dogchasingcars - 4/3/2009, 12:05 PM
shaman great article and i can't wait for origins it will be awesome
MIDAS
MIDAS - 4/3/2009, 12:26 PM
The companies making the movies have to have that same dedication and not screw up a movie as important as this one. What they did with Deadpool is horrible.
TucsonRican
TucsonRican - 4/3/2009, 12:26 PM
I was there a Comic-Con when Jackman came out. First he acknowledged Len Wein, creator of Wolverine, who was in the audience. And then he showed the trailer. He seemed really "geeked" for the clip,and the movie.

No matter what is said, I will still see it. An opinion on the movie shouldn't mean anything until you have one for yourself...
kovacs29
kovacs29 - 4/3/2009, 12:26 PM
I agree and disagree...Mike Keaton couldn't get paid enough to play batman again which goes against your point, and I'm pretty sure Thomas Jane was the same. But good article man...and Halle Berry sucks balls for more balls...
Aiiwolf
Aiiwolf - 4/3/2009, 12:35 PM
I liked your article, but if keaton liked being Batman so much when they asked him to come back why didnt he? lol I mean he decides to make movies like My life, speechless, and Multiplicity right after.

I think Bale is MORE of fan then keaton, I think he even mentioned that in a interview about him growing up, and he also said "If you ADD ROBIN, NO BALE"...just for the fatc being he doesnt want to movies turning into Batman and robin lol.

Well wriitten, but that probabaly the only part i disagreed with, keaton reminds me of the DC batman...on the other hand Bale reminds me of Fank millers version, with a touch of that Dc side lol. I like them both, but Bale went wayyyy into character, keaton just played himself...just like in every other movie he played himself [very one dimensional]
Aiiwolf
Aiiwolf - 4/3/2009, 12:39 PM
Btw, Jack nicolson made how much of the BATMAN SEQUEL until today....its in his contract. Any batman movie made he makes money off of....smart guy...but at the same tiem guys like him tick me off...he had nothing to do with the movie....maybe lecture Heath about how difficult it will be to play joker lol...other than that whatever.

@ KOVACS29

Thomas Jane didnt return because he didnt like the DIRECTION of the movie, he said the movie was UNFAITHFUL to his interpretation of Punisher. He even wrote a letter on the WEBSITE of Punisher Warzone.
MetalHead
MetalHead - 4/3/2009, 12:59 PM
I figured when I said that I preferred Bale over Keaton that I'd be eaten alive. Glad to see many agree. But I have no problem whatsoever agreeing to disagree on who is the better Batman. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and a case could definitely be made for either one. It's not really a matter of debate on this issue, it's just flat-out a preference.

And good point about Keaton not reprising his role and therefore contradicting the argument for him being more dedicated to the role than Bale. With that point it almost says that Keaton is the exact opposite of Jackman in that regard. I feel like Jackman will do whatever the fans want him to do as far as making more movies, going to conventions, etc.

Shaman, (this isn't meant to come off mean-spirited)
The more you write about Sabretooth the more you inadvertantly prove my point. You say "just the look in his eyes." So you mean that when you looked into the FAKE eyeballs of Tyler Mane versus the REAL eyeballs of Liev? Sorry but put Tyler Many in X2 with a huge role and then let's see how he does. It's really unfair to critize him with such a tiny sample-- the majority of which wasn't even his own perspective. It's not like we were seeing Tyler Mane's interpretation of Sabretooth. We saw a guy who was put in a costume (which wasn't created by him) doing exactly what he was told to do in the very few minutes which he was in the film. Now I'm not saying that Liev wouldn't still end up being a better Sabretooth, I'm saying that judging Tyler Mane on his very small sample as Sabertooth in the first film is very unfair.
Aiiwolf
Aiiwolf - 4/3/2009, 1:08 PM
Metalhead I agree...with that statement.

Thats like replacing Dr. Conners from Spiderman 1, 2, & 3 for all the small parts he did, with a completely new actor who has a the whoel film to himself as Dr. conners, and the lizard. Personally, I hope they never do that {knock on wood]

Shaman
Shaman - 4/3/2009, 1:37 PM
Okay, fair point guys. Bale said he was honored. To me it's not the same as giddy. Okay so he appreciated his chance but hardly showed any "ENTHUSIASM" as much as Jackman does. TucsonRican said it himself "He geeked for the clip". To me, there's a huge difference between liking your job, just punching in every morning and actually THRIVE for the special project you are attributed at your highly likable job. Keaton WAS giddy when he landed the role for the first Batman film. Why he didn't come back for the third is probably because the second wasn't as critically acclaimed as the first and he didn't want to go down with the ship. IMHO, that was a smart freakin move since Schumaker massacered the franchise single handedly. Hear anybody asking why Val Kilmer didn't come back??? So all we can do is "speculate" on the reason why Keaton didn't return but no one knows for sure.

Aiiwolf - See Tom Jane isn't anyone's fool. He knows damn well that whatever "magic" sold his punisher movie was actually HIM playing the part the way he did. Then he got the script for the sequel which completely and utterly disregarded the character he built for the film. So naturally he said no. Now as comic book fans, we can totally disregard REALITY but Frank Castle as he is written in the comics does not in any way shape or form relate to the average movie goers. He's not human enough. Tom Jane, although we comic book fans will admit he watered down the character, what he actually did was "humanise" him for the general audience. And he did splendid!

MetalHead- LOL, i knew you were gonna mention Mane's fake eye balls LOL. I wasn't really talking about retina here LMFAO!!! More along the lines of body language, how we can actually communicate with our posture/facial features/glares and all that jazz :) Mane felt like Michael Myers(Holloween not love guru) but hairy, know what i mean? :)

TheDarkCuban- good point :)
TheDarkCuban
TheDarkCuban - 4/3/2009, 1:40 PM
amen shaman, I totally agree! why can't people go to a movie and just enjoy it... that's why even though some adaptations may suck but hey give it a chance... try and absorb yourself into the movie don't think about the comics...

Because all in all, movies are completely different projects that stand alone... why didn't anyone get angry with iron man being started in afghanistan... why didn't anyone get angry with jarvis being just the computer system instead of a damned butler...

and while I'm ranting let me just say something on spider-man 3, I need to get it off my chest... was it just me or did anyone notice that venom refers to himself as "I" instead of "we" when he is scheeming with sandman?
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 4/3/2009, 1:47 PM
I was actually upset when I heard Tom Jane wasn't doing another Punisher. The film wasn't brilliant but I liked it and thought he was very good.
castle4punisher
castle4punisher - 4/3/2009, 2:21 PM
Yeh and after watching Warzone I wanted to break someones arms.

Maybe Lexi Alexader, but she is a girl.

Maybe Ray Stevenson, but he looks hard as nails.

Think I'll go for Jigsaw and Looney Bin Jim (Man! they come right out of a comic book) plus their acting was shite!
TheStranger
TheStranger - 4/3/2009, 2:21 PM
I agree! I personally loved Tom Jane as the punisher, nothing against Ray. Honestly I got lucky Hugh Jackman and Robert Downey Jr. are portraying my most loved comic book heroes and they are honestly one of the few people who are commited to these roles and aiding this genre.

I mean hell if you even look at wolverine and Tony Stark in video games and media these days they even look like Hugh and Robert. Because these people brought these guys to life and are so good at it and love it!

By not going to the movies to watch Wolverine you arent doing your part! These movies have to make money for their to be more. So even if its not 100% correct its still better than not getting Wolverine at all in my opinion. Hugh Jackman loves this character and loves playing him and does fans like us justice by doing it, so dont take it away from him. Keep watching this leaked crap on the net and their wont be anymore comic book movies!
castle4punisher
castle4punisher - 4/3/2009, 2:33 PM
Edward Norton as Bruce Banner thats pretty amazing too.

Just hope they pick good actors for Captain America and Thor!

Plus I'm waiting for Wolverine in the theatres, it's the only way to see these type of movies for the first time!
xmentheeight
xmentheeight - 4/3/2009, 2:37 PM
Okay...might as well start from the top as much as I can:
I can pretty much agree with U on the Punisher thing. Jane did do a good job, eventhough the script was not so good(the character is so easy,..how they continue to screw up is beyond me), and his portrayl was grounded and not to over the top and that worked for me.

The Halle thing?!....guys lets give it a rest. It was old a long time ago. Catwoman was trash that I didnt even consider going to see, so thats no suprise. As for her Storm,....lets' not fool ourselves, she does have acting capabilities besides the ungodly hotness, but it was either take the lines U are given, which aint saying much,...or demand more for ur character and then be labled a b#@*h or difficult actor. I will definitely disagree with the assumption that Storm was never a important character even in the books,...come on dude! Screw the skin color,...Storm is a beast and always has been. I like Jean, but she's never led a team and Storm has always proven her worth in that department. Storm was shitty becuz the script was shitty.

Onward now, now the Keaton/Bale comparison can go on forever. I dug the Keaton but am a Bale fan when its all said and done. The question of enthusiasm that is raised seems a bit misplaced and lopsided. Just becuz we hold these characters and mythos in such high regard and esteem, doesnt mean everyone else is going to be feeling the same way. If an actor like Jackman and whoever else has that type of excitement for a role,...I can appreciate that, but I dont need Bale or anyone else to wear the enthusiasm on their sleeve just to make me feel better about there intentions.

The actors owe us nothing but quality product,...whether that comes from someone who is head over heels and grew up reading the character, someone who doesnt know squat but is just as excited, and the actor who doesnt break into nerdgasms about the role, but is still hell bent on putting his best abilities into the role. Thats all we should ask for.
loelife
loelife - 4/3/2009, 2:41 PM
I DIDN'T READ ANYONE'S COMMENTS!!

i have a few moments before i have to go to work, and i just wanted to thank shaman before i did. the same way you give respect to the myth for this article i have to do the same to you. i'm the biggest wolverine fan, and i let that get to me. i had to watch it. my emotions got the best of me and i didn't like it at first. or should i say disappointed. but after a while, and reading this, i realize everything you said. hugh is the best, and all the supporting cast. liev does a great job and i had a feeling that was going to happen. we are lucking for hugh and the team. this is his 4th time playing wolverine, and it will not be the last. he still has two movies left, fox won't let him go. and i don't think that he will either. liev will be back, and after watching this movie at midnight on the first, i will be happy that i still have more to look forward to. so again, shaman, thank you for this. you helped me settle some emotions.
thank you
zinext
zinext - 4/3/2009, 2:45 PM
hey shaman, isnt storm second in comand behind cyclops?? that is some kind of importance right?? well, u are right about Halle not really caring about the role, mostly because she was practacally given it, Now that I think about it, i think sanaa lathan would of been so much better, only because she puts her heart in all her roles. As far as Bishop, he really does need to appear in an x men instalment(being played by micheal jai white ofcorse). But as far as comic movies go, i think that u are on to somthing when u talk about what we want out of it, verses from what we need from it, and Ironman really did change that. As far as the Wolverine movie hell yea im peeping it, even tho i watched the leak, still gotta see the finished product.
CaptainAmerica
CaptainAmerica - 4/3/2009, 2:52 PM
Hey Sheman you idiot! put a [frick]ing spoiler warning!!! Not all of us have seen the bootleg film. They did reshoots for Deadpool, so it might not have been in that copy you illegally watched in your basement.
loganaspatch
loganaspatch - 4/3/2009, 2:58 PM
i commented before but forgot to throw my support in for Jane i own that version of Punisher so i enjoyed it, ive read a few crossover comics with punisher in them and his a prick in the comics i read but i still enjoyed jane's version of him in the movie.

they should have made the main boss/bad guy a sentinal if they wanted to enforce that mutant termination plot they tried to cook up, would have been alot more enjoyable then a few things that went on in the movie .. wait am im allowed to say that? .. um end comment.
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