10 Things I'm Worried/Excited About - Avengers

10 Things I'm Worried/Excited About - Avengers

Five things I'm worried about and five things I'm excited about when it comes to the Avengers film.

Editorial Opinion
By AnthonyMango - Apr 09, 2012 12:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers
Source: Anthony Mango

Whenever a new film comes out that I'm a fan of, I always end up overanalyzing the littlest details and jumping to my own conclusions, positive or negative. Naturally, that brings about some things I get very excited about and some things I'm equally anxious about in a bad way.

As I just purchased my tickets for the Ultimate Marvel Marathon, I figured I’d take a look at those things in regards to THE AVENGERS…



THINGS I'M WORRIED ABOUT

1. Juggling All Those Characters

The Hulk, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Agent Coulson, Maria Hill, Nick Fury, Loki, Loki’s army, all the side characters that might have spots in it like Pepper Potts…the likelihood that they can balance all of these people and give them adequate time (by which I mean they serve a functional storyline purpose and aren’t just standing next to the other people fighting) is staggeringly against the creators of this film. This is a hefty ensemble to deal with and I’m very worried that people will end up not serving a purpose. For instance, we can tell what roles Cap, Fury, and Stark are going to play, but how is Hawkeye going to be a noteworthy member of the team? Is Loki’s army going to be just a bunch of generic mooks that follow his orders and receive no backstory? I’d like to know who these people/creatures are as opposed to just Loki saying “these guys are with me, go fight each other”. I don’t want to see the SHIELD agents get more screen time than the Avengers themselves by any means necessary, as there’s a hierarchy of importance, but at the same time, I don’t want people to be walking out of the theatre not knowing the difference between Hill, Widow, Hawkeye, Coulson, and Fury. It’ll be a good test if you can quiz the people around you and they don’t just refer to the characters as “the bow and arrow guy”, “the chick with the short hair”, “Samuel L. Jackson”, “Scarlett Johansson” and “the bald guy”.

2. My Track Record with Joss Whedon

I wasn’t able to get into Buffy. I therefore had no real interest in Angel. You might hate me for this, but I personally just do not see the appeal of Firefly or Serenity and I wish I hadn’t wasted my time watching them. Because of this horrible track record of me not enjoying the Whedon experience, I’m very worried that this will just fall into the same category. I’m hoping instead that this is what redeems him in my eyes, but naturally, I’m hesitant to believe that will happen.

3. The Lack of a Cinematic Feel

There’s been talk that the film doesn’t really feel so much like a blockbuster movie, but rather, that it has a television quality to it. That worries me quite a bit, especially because these previews they’ve put out have certainly given off that vibe to me. I’m a big fan of television, but I’m an even bigger fan of film. One of the biggest pleasures I have is the movie experience. My alarm clock is the THX sound. I get goosebumps when I hear the new Disney intro theme. I can hum you the pre-preview AMC theatres song where the film strip drops all the reels. I sit in the center aisle, center row of the auditorium if I can. To me, if this film comes off like a made for TV movie or an elongated episode of Heroes or God forbid The Cape, it’s going to completely throw me off and irk me.

4. The Hype Dooming the Expectations

With things like this, sometimes no matter what you do, it can’t live up to what people were expecting. Hype is a dangerous thing. It’ll put butts in seats, but it also drives people to start making assumptions that, if not fulfilled, leave them feeling empty. What about the person expecting Hulk to go nuts throughout most of the film? What about those who think the soundtrack is going to be epic? What about the people that are foolish enough to think that this will end up being nominated for Best Picture and Best Actor and Best Director and all sorts of Academy Awards next year? You can’t please everybody, but at the same time, a lot of hype tends to make it so you can’t please ANYBODY that was looking forward to it at the level that you want people to crave it. Sometimes it’s better to not get your hopes up and be pleasantly surprised than to be hoping for something amazing and getting something just great.

5. Time Restraints = Less Complex

I like my movies to be well rounded and not necessarily “complicated”, but it needs to have meat on its bones. One of my standard gripes about movies is that they seem to need a half hour extra to set up the different story aspects and make me really care about the characters to the point where I’m feeling what they want me to feel at the end. I don’t want this to turn into one of those films where the action dictates the story and they worked backwards from “how can we get Thor to fight Iron Man”. I want this to be “at this point in the story, Thor and Iron Man have gotten into conflict so much that they need to duke it out and settle things”. I don’t want Loki to be just the bad guy that they need to stop – I need motivation. Thor can’t walk on screen, say Loki’s his brother and they need to be careful, and then I need to fill in the rest and just accept that. The “what” needs to also be surrounded by the “why” and the “how”. Don’t tell me early on that Hawkeye is a rebel and then do nothing with it until one scene where he steals a jet and goes off to fight or something, let me see why he’s a rebel, show me how he’s a rebel, and then I’ll make the conclusion that he is one. Show rather than just tell. I don’t want to walk out of this film thinking it needed another hour because it ended up being a bunch of action sequences surrounded by the bare minimum of storyline just to get us from one explosion to another.

THINGS I'M EXCITED ABOUT

1. Juggling All Those Characters

The Hulk, Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Agent Coulson, Maria Hill, Nick Fury, Loki, Loki’s army…AWESOME! When have we ever seen something like this before? Warner Bros hasn’t even been able to push out a Superman/Batman crossover film, even when they tried to do it with no setup and no continuity to bind them together. Marvel on the other hand has fully set up the majority of these characters with an entire film dedicated to them (two in the case of Iron Man…or, well, I guess you could say one and a half considering how short Iron Man 2 was). While many people could argue that the X-Men films have shown us what to do and what not to do in regards to ensembles, I’d argue that this is an entirely different beast altogether. Sure, there are some guidelines established from those films and others, but fashioning a team of characters in a movie on its own is different from fashioning a film out of pre-existing characters from other films. I’m very excited to see what essentially is a movie adaptation of the types of comic book crossovers we all eat up (and then spit out when they retcon it a year later).

2. Joss Whedon’s Passion

With Whedon, we know how big of a fan he is of the source material and the characters in general, so there’s no real worry on my part as far as him understanding what he’s got on his plate. While I may be worried about his ability to execute, I have no worries when it comes to his ability to understand what he should be trying to go for. Think of it this way - no matter how good of a chef you may be, if you’ve never encountered the particular ingredients, you could very well screw up the dish. However, you could be a terrible chef but still be able to pull off the best grilled cheese in the world if that’s what you’re familiar with. His interpretations of the characters aren’t going to be riddled with the type of BS that tends to ruin a lot of these things. There will be no “we need to make one of these characters have some street cred to bring in that audience, let’s put some bling on the Hulk so we can sell it afterward” fiascos. Whedon’s Hulk should by mostly all accounts be a good representation of the Hulk and the same goes for everyone else.

3. Secrets, Credit Cookies, and Hidden Easter Eggs

One of my favorite things about films in general is when there are little trinkets hidden around the place. These films have been great in throwing in references to other stories and giving you more if you’re a fan than just the bare minimum. When I saw Thor, I thought it was great that the Infinity Gauntlet was amongst the weapons. When the first Nick Fury scene happened in Iron Man, I was giddy like a school girl. This movie series has done wonders for that concept and I know a lot of people that actually only started realizing that there might be post-credit sequences because of these films, so I’m expecting a few things to really light up my eyes during the movie (as well as some that go right above my head and I don’t find out about until later).

4. The Culmination of Years of Planning

Even if it ends up being a horrible film, which I doubt it will be (though to be fair I’m not expecting it to be amazing either, just decent) I’m still very interested to see the end result of this. The whole concept has intrigued me from the very beginning, so I’m curious and excited about what they were planning on building up to and how they’re able to execute it. If it IS great, then on top of that, I’ll be very proud of those that contributed in pulling it off.

5. Sequels and Future Planning

What if there’s a post-credit setup for Thanos? What if we get Avengers 2 with Vision and Ant Man and Wasp and Black Panther and Wonder Man added to the team? What if?! Aaaaaaah! How does this change the way things would go for the sequels to Thor and Captain America? How will this lead into Iron Man 3 now that he’ll have come in direct conflict with enemies working beyond Stark’s realm of technical expertise? I’m very excited about the possibilities that can spawn from this film and what we’ll be able to look forward to, seeing as how we’ve been looking forward to this film itself for so long.

So what are some things that you're worried and/or excited about for the Avengers film?


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GizmoEl
GizmoEl - 4/9/2012, 12:30 AM
I really think a lot of people will be disappointed. Either their favorite character won't have enough screentime or something else fell short of the GIANT expectations they had for it. It's really going to be a hard movie to get right, but if anyone can do it.. it's Marvel Studios. I'm really praying that this movie doesn't suck, everything about it just SCREAMS epic.

Also, I seriously don't understand where this "doesn't look cinematic" talk came from. One reviewer said it in a PREVIS screening and haters jumped on the bandwagon and started saying it looks like a tv movie. NOTHING about it screams TV movie. The effects are top notch. Hulk looks amazing. The scope of the movie with the angles and the wide framed shots of the city, as well as the close ups for the characters all give a truly epic theatrical vibe.
GizmoEl
GizmoEl - 4/9/2012, 12:30 AM
ps, is this supposed to be in news?
SmittsMcGee
SmittsMcGee - 4/9/2012, 1:07 AM
When did CBM become a blog?
RidiculousFanBoyDemands
RidiculousFanBoyDemands - 4/9/2012, 1:46 AM
According to people who have seen the movie Jeremy Renner and Mark Ruffalo steal the movie.
BANE5000
BANE5000 - 4/9/2012, 1:52 AM
Im just more anxious to see where is the MCU gonna go based on how The Avengers is gonna end and whatever easter eggs they may show...

They should put in hints to Blade and Punisher now, like someone reading a newspaper and u see the headline " could vampires be real? " or " mob killings rising, vigilante still at large " and have a pic of the punisher skull
JasonCYates
JasonCYates - 4/9/2012, 1:59 AM
For starters it's expressed in a few articles that CAP, IRON MAN,& THOR will be the main characters besides LOKI. The rest of them will shining moments but, HAWKEYE may have less to do and Fury still along w/ Agent 2 Shield agents. HULK may have more than the rest of supporting cast prolly less than WIDOW. I didn't watch Buffy, I caught some episodes of ANGEL, wasn't bad, not fave. Serenity was fun, I loved DR. HORRIBLE, but this won't be a musical so long as Tony remains sober, and his acclaimed writing stint on THE ASTONISHING X-MEN. THE TRAILER HAS CINEMATIC FEEL, NOT TO MENTION IT LOOKS WORTHY OF 3D!!!!! The hyping so far hasn't been that bad, in fact they've held back compared to their predecessors, we've seen very little fighting, and even less of the HULK(WHO LOOKS THE BEST HE EVER HAS!!!) and brilliant making us guess about LOKI's Alien Army:)Lastly, the whole point to building up to this over 5 films and 4 yrs, is so we would already know everything we need to about the principal characters and they wouldn't have to waste any time getting into the set up and right into their interactions and general Baddassery!!!!!!!!! I don't think we have anything to worry about, except getting tickets on opening nite:S
CoolantTech
CoolantTech - 4/9/2012, 2:06 AM
good observations there are bound to be people that are gonna hate on the movie.
R888
R888 - 4/9/2012, 2:14 AM
I don't think it will suck I mean joss wouldn't screw it up so far its been epic and awesome stuff, unlike transformers that was ruined by bay.

I trust joss besides I happy that they finally did this film, 5 years waiting and boy are we in for a treat.

Some people are looking for a good story others fun and action, entertainment

I think fanboys will enjoy this film
pOoPEE
pOoPEE - 4/9/2012, 2:56 AM
2 more days until the world premier so we can finally see people's reactions. Considering how early they are having the premiere plus the obvious confidence from Marvel I believe the Avengers is going to blow us away.
AnthonyMango
AnthonyMango - 4/9/2012, 3:10 AM
@GizmoEl - Thanks for pointing that out to me. I always forget to switch it over to Editorial. And I agree that if anyone has a favorite character, they're definitely more likely to be disappointed with the film, particularly if they dislike one as well. I know someone that happens to be a big Iron Man fan but isn't quite fond of Thor, so just by sheer default, if they feel like Thor stole time away from Stark, they're going to be disappointed in it unfortunately. So far, the effects do look great, but with everything (good and bad) we can't really judge it until we've seen it ourselves.

@demonhunter15 - Even a bad Avengers movie might be better than no Avengers movie. True.

@RidiculousFanBoyDemands - That'll be very interesting to see, especially because I'm not expecting Renner to have a sizable chunk of time. Maybe that's one of the reasons...less is more, sometimes.

@BANE5000 - Are Blade and Punisher eligible for Marvel to use, or are the rights still tied up? That'd certainly be cool if they can use them.

@JasonCYates - I've never seen Dr. Horrible, can't comment on that one way or the other. Hulk definitely looks the best so far, so that's a big plus. The previous films do most of the setting up, so this can follow some sequel tendencies of not having to shoehorn too much exposition in there, but I'd still like to see them build the film around it being able to be watched solo as well (to an extent, naturally...not overblown).

@CoolantTek - Thank you.

@R888 - So far, I haven't been disappointed. I'm really hoping it stays that way. At the very least I think all the people that are big fans of comics in general will be excited to see all these characters interact, even if the film itself is structurally bad from a critic's point of view.
YipCha
YipCha - 4/9/2012, 4:20 AM
@Knossis I completely disagree. Everything I've seen is more than I could've ever hoped for. (Well except having Edward Nortan come back that is). Plus Joss Whedon is one of the best writers in movie making today. I don't think you have anything to worry about as far as the script/character interaction is concerned. Its just that the film is being marketed to build excitement but not to give away too much of the story. After all what do we know? Loki comes to Earth somehow with some sort of plan to rule, and some sort of army...and the Avengers assemble to stop him. That's all that we've seen. Which we knew would happen years ago.
BANE5000
BANE5000 - 4/9/2012, 5:23 AM
@toekneemango

Marvel Studios has had the rights back for Blade and Punisher since about last year, so they can use easter for them in their films as much as they'd like to get audiences familiar with them again, and hopefully release feature films of their own for Blade and Punisher now
dirkgently77
dirkgently77 - 4/9/2012, 6:01 AM
@Knossos. Why are you comparing it to transformers or battleship? Why not compare them to the other 5 marvel movies because it is after all a sequel to them. Marvel have not released a movie yet that was all action and nothing more. They have successfully put the best of their comics on the screen. If its as good as the others I'll be very happy. I'd also like to know what movies you've directed and wrote because you seem to think you're an expert on film. Pillock!
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 4/9/2012, 7:15 AM
I agree with you 100% on the hype aspect, people think TDKR is over hyped but in reality The Avengers is as hyped as it can get and it's bound to have a lot of bad reviews from CBMers because the expectations were simply way to high. From what I have seen the lines are very cheesy an the delivery is also very worrying " if we can't save the world we sure as hell can avenge it" had to the corniest line I have heard in a modern CBM
Comix
Comix - 4/9/2012, 8:23 AM
@Knossis

You really think the AVENGERS MOVIE is going to spend their time trying to market "good lines?" HELL NO. If you think they are going to waste their time with that there is a problem. This movie wants to make money, so they are going to market the parts the "people" wanna see. Explosion fest, all action story, whatever. I would do the same dam thing because it worked pretty dam well for transformers and it made a billion dollars. And as for this not being good, we will see May 4th, cause I thought the same exact thing about X-men First Class and was proven other wise.
Gerrit
Gerrit - 4/9/2012, 9:24 AM
Tp be fair, almost everything I've seen and heard about this movie is awesome. I just get a little bit worried about some things:

1- The strength of some characters probably will get toned down.

2- The interrogation clip where Black Widow kicks those guys asses. It was awful. If you want to make an EPIC WAR FILM, Joss himself described The Avengers that way, you have to take serious things seriously and an interrogation is a serious matter. I posted this before but I repeat, the clip is laughable compared to the plastic bag from Elite Squad end Le Chiffre in Cassino Royale. I am afraid that this lack of seriousness will be present throughout the entire movie, which means FAIL when it comes to war movies.

In short, 1) doesn't get me really worried, if Thor or Hulk are not as powerfull as they should be is not really a problem, but 2) is very worrying and I hope it's just a matter of context and that the movie has, overral, a serious tone.
Moakynubs
Moakynubs - 4/9/2012, 9:58 AM
The dude did Astonishing X-Men.

I have no doubts.
LoudNoises
LoudNoises - 4/9/2012, 11:32 AM
I think the Avengers is going to be one of those really fun, enjoyable and memorable experiences you get in a theater. And you can tell at this point thats exactly what Joss was aiming for. He wants us cheering in the theater when we see the team start coming together. Whenever we see any of the team working together in anyway it gives us all goosebumps. Whether it's Hulk jumping and catch Ironman in midair or Cap telling Hulk to Smash, Tony telling Loki we have a Hulk, Cap saying lets suit up, or Tony telling the rest of the team he's bringing the party to them as he corners a skyscraper followed by an enormous alien aircraft or, the whole team assembling back to back in a circle. This movie is pure geek out fun which is what most of us want. There I'd no longer any reason for us to fight over which movie does better at the box office. Avengers will fill our geek needs and TDKR will fill our need for a serious epic conclusion. I'm am completely stoked for this summer!
antonio
antonio - 4/9/2012, 12:21 PM
Whedon does know how to juggle multiple characters. Even though they are big, larger than life characters like Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, and The Hulk, I still have faith in what Joss has in store for us.

One person on the SHH forums whose friend has seen the film has also said that he wishes the overall scope of the film was much bigger(not cinematic enough). A few people that have seen the film have said that there are plenty of great easter eggs in the film so keep an eye out.

I cannot wait until I see it this saturday!!!
Lilvic92
Lilvic92 - 4/9/2012, 1:14 PM
@antonio that's really starting to worry me, though I still don't full understand what they mean by no cinematic enough..it's just sounds bad lol

Did he at least have anything good to say about it ?
antonio
antonio - 4/9/2012, 1:31 PM
@Lilvic he said he loved it. The only way the "TV cinematography" looked cool, according to him, was during the final battle. Supposedly, its extremely entertaining, but he wishes it was a little longer.
TheGambitFreak
TheGambitFreak - 4/9/2012, 2:24 PM
I am not worried about a damn thing, Whedon's got this. All I have to do now is kick back, relax and watch Captain America kick ass and get his ass handed to him, 24 days till midnight release!
AnthonyMango
AnthonyMango - 4/9/2012, 2:47 PM
@wearethewalkingdead9 – 100% in agreement about Serenity. Maybe part of the reasoning is because I knew it had been a TV show, but I still just couldn’t shake the feeling that it was on par with a SyFy TV movie. If this comes out like that, it’ll hinder it greatly in my opinion. Hopefully he’s adapted and changed his style to fit the cinema better by the time he started working on Avengers.

@Spidey31 – I’m going to try my best to lessen my expectations before I see it so that I don’t end up reviewing it through the viewpoint of having my hopes up too high, but since I’m doing the marathon, it’s going to be super tough not to get pumped up for it. Spending a whole day in a movie theatre watching all of them in a row and then that (hopefully with my Iron Man 3D glasses if they let me choose), I might end up succumbing to the hype haha.

@Amazingjr87 – Thank you. At the very least I’m expecting it to be entertaining and something I’d probably end up buying even if I’m not the biggest fan of it as a film in general. It’ll be pretty hard for me not to just geek out at the movie itself and be excited lol

@Gerrit – For the strength of the characters, I really hope they don’t do something stupid like have Hulk get knocked out by a Hawkeye arrow. I don’t think they will, but you never know. If anything, I can see them making the mistake of having Black Widow’s strength a little too much and Thor’s a little too underplayed.

@LoudNoises – Being in a packed theatre always helps, like seeing a sports event live. That’s one of the reasons I wanted so badly to see it with the marathon. Electricity definitely boosts things.
Gerrit
Gerrit - 4/9/2012, 4:54 PM
@knossis, I forgot about TDK's interrogation scene. It was really one of the best parts of the movie but I wouldn't use it as comparison because it's importance for TDK was enormous while Black Widow's interrogation is just another scene compared to the big stuff happening in The Avengers, but it still is a very valid example. Regarding the "Hulk, smash" instant, I disagree with you, I think its just a nod to the fans and I can't see it being better with urgency in Cap's tone, actually I think it would make the line worst. "Smash" isn't something a commander would say in such a moment, but as a nod I like it.

@toekneemango, the only way that I can accept Hawkeye defeating the Hulk is if he hits the green goliath with some "nano-swarm"-like gimmick. No arrow can penetrate Hulk's skin in order to tranquilize him.
CaptainAmerica31
CaptainAmerica31 - 4/9/2012, 7:55 PM
Apparently two guys got a early screening and said "it was great" do IDK could be good but they could also be lying lol
AnthonyMango
AnthonyMango - 4/9/2012, 8:37 PM
@Gerrit - Exactly. I don't want to see some stupid scene where Maria Hill takes down Captain America with her bare fists just to be all "ooooh, Maria's a good fighter!" I don't think we will, though. At least I hope not.

@Spidey31 - They could also be very easy to please (or vice versa, they could be very hard to please and it's just that good). Tough to call. We've all got to end up judging for ourselves.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/9/2012, 8:51 PM
Anyone going into this thinking its going to have a totally serious tone is going to be disappointed. It will be like the other marvel movies. FUN! Meqning there will be action, one liners, CGI special effects, and yes, a little corniness. Just. Like. The. Comics.

Anyone expecting anything else will be disappointed and should just not go see it. Plain and simple. Its pretty clear and easy to see what the tone will be. Just watch the other marvel films. they arent going to all of a sudden change the formula they've used successfully in the past 5 films.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 4/9/2012, 11:20 PM
It's ok, good movies and good television isn't for everyone.
IgnurRant
IgnurRant - 4/10/2012, 2:07 AM
Id be infinately more excited for the Avengers if IM2, Thor & TFA had not been so mediocre and/or terrible.

Doesnt help Evans has no screen presence and he bought his costume at Walmart. Cap is a bad ass supersoldier that commands respect.
AnthonyMango
AnthonyMango - 4/10/2012, 3:03 PM
@Tainted87 - Indeed. Some people, for God knows what reason, would rather watch something like "Epic Movie" rather than "The Shawshank Redemption".

@IgnurRant - I'm not the biggest fan of Evans as Cap either. I like him, but I've never seen him as an option for Captain America and even though I think he pulled off the minimum requirement in CA:TFA, I still think they could have done better.
sonofsamadams
sonofsamadams - 4/10/2012, 3:42 PM
People are gonna be disappointed with this movie.
TheAstoundingMan
TheAstoundingMan - 4/10/2012, 7:07 PM
@sonofsamadams- No movie has ever had unanimous praise!

Great article; the hype for this film is only going to grow as the marketing enters its final stages, and I think that more than anyone the people on this site should be putting things into perspective.
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