Who Is The Fallen Avenger?

Who Is The Fallen Avenger?

There's been a lot of speculating on who might not survive this latest Avengers cinematic adventure, come find out my intriguing theory about who it might be!

Editorial Opinion
By GusGalaxy - Mar 07, 2015 07:03 PM EST
This may just be the speculation of myself and a few of my friends from work, but do people really not see that Steve Rogers (Captain America) is the Avenger that's going to die in Age Of Ultron? Bucky (Winter Soldier) is definitely supposed to take over as the next Captain America! It's Bucky Barnes, of all people, who becomes the edgier Cap in the comics, one that could transition beautifully to film as a successor that has no reservations about stepping up in Tony Stark's face and opposing him about things, especially if it's over the emotions of losing someone so essential to both of them.

Bucky knew where Steve Rogers would have drawn lines, he knew the guy better than anyone. Bucky would remember how Steve would chance everything he could to save him, and succeeded in bringing him back to his senses, so it's natural he would do the same, to carry out his legacy while carving his own. Stark always challenged Rogers values, but without that balance, it could throw him into some careless thinking, especially in terms of his mistakes in bringing Ultron out of the darkness. Tony doesn't have the ability to control anything, anymore, and that's a crippling realization, especially when it comes to a genius technician like him. It's not just humbling for an ego like that, is down right insulting. It can warp your perception beyond that of the problem, but to inadvertently increase the damage. Someone has to step up and stop him before he crumbles at the inevitable sight of his own personal horrors. Bucky knows those lines better than anyone. This will engage and stabilize the conflict beautifully into Infinity Wars!

How did I come to this assumption? Stark takes the emotional hit as a perfect example of the sentiment Joss Whedon has been mentioning, in terms of making The Avengers feel more grounded, more human. The subconscious struggle they have to face in themselves. The truth in Ultron's words, the fact that he did crush their hope first, their hope being Captain America.

Ultron needs to be a credible, memorable, cerebral threat, and what a more precise and cunning move than hitting the team with a direct shot like that? In the beginning, Loki served his lasting moment bringing them together for the first time, effectively changing things forever. What do you do to change things forever.. again? You strike in an unexpected, relentless, and powerful way. You send a message that hits beyond the nerve, into the soul. Ultron knows this. There is no way to avoid it.

Just because Chris Evans is in contracts to finish up a few appearances, I'm certain they will be flashbacks. This speculation that we keep hearing an Avenger will die is for good reason, along with the symbolism of it everywhere, like seeing the shield shattered in the trailers for Age Of Ultron, it's just powerful on so many levels. That broken shield is just the flag being waived in front of our eyes to let us know that the signs are there. It makes the perfect transition into the conflict of Civil War. This is what is the spark into what creates Stark's new mindset. Bucky will have no problem keeping to his friend's hopes and ideals intact, especially without his friend Steve's old ways and reservations to hold him back. The Marvel Cinematic Universe is about to get dark people, dark and powerful. Are you ready?
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RextheKing
RextheKing - 3/7/2015, 8:09 PM
@GusGalaxy Interesting theory. I personally think though that Cap won't die in AOU but will in CW by Crossbones(they didn't let him survive for nothing). My top theory for an AOU death is Thor since his death would make the most sense for the future of the MCU. Quicksilver is my second given the scene in the first trailer with SW on her knees screaming and the lack of QS in what I suppose is the final battle in the last AOU trailer(he's probably just running around though). My third is War Machine because I believe his death could drive Tony to side with the Government which is something Rhodey is all for. Then there is Cap, so I won't shoot the theory down, but I do doubt it.
alamborn19
alamborn19 - 3/7/2015, 8:17 PM
I agree with @RextheKing that War Machine might die since they have no plans for him and would be a good motivation for Tony Stark.
GusGalaxy
GusGalaxy - 3/7/2015, 8:27 PM
These make a lot of sense guys, love the speculation! @AlexanderLykins, I like this scenario of multiple sacrifices, it's also interesting to think of what could drive Stark to that point, and to think of it, Rhodey would be justifiable cause, so I agree with all of you guys. I just can't see Thor being the sacrifice. He has unfinished business with Loki because of the end of The Dark World, it would just feel like a useless run in circles if he was the sacrifice, Cap and Rhodey seem most likely. Thanks for the insight, guys. Awesome comments. @RextheKing @alamborn19
TheManFromMars
TheManFromMars - 3/7/2015, 8:58 PM
I vote for the "no one will die" scenario
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 3/7/2015, 10:28 PM
Do you honestly think Steve Rogers will die BEFORE Civil War?

Thats just nonsensical.

I have no doubt that Rogers will die at some point and Bucky will take over. But not before a few things happen first.

1. Steve and Stark have to go to war with each other in Civil War. This story can't be about anyone else. It would be pointless. They are obviously building up tension between Steve and Tony. They arent doing that so that Bucky can be the one to go to war with Stark. Again, that makes no sense. Which leads to my second point....

2. They have to build up Bucky and Steve's relationship a bit more before Bucky takes over the costume. They cant just have Bucky show up in The Winter Soldier, then have Cap die in AoU, and then have Bucky get pissed enough to take up his mantle and go to war with Stark. They need to at least have them interact in a friendly manner before having Bucky take his mantle.

Again, Stwve will die at some point and Bucky will take over. But AoU os WAY too soon. I look for Steve to die at the end of Civil War. It would make more sense. Especially since they can have Bucky show up in it and patch things up with Steve.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 3/7/2015, 10:39 PM
Thor will "die" but will probably be shown to still be alive in AoU.

Yes, he has unfinished business with Loki. But i feel like Thor will "die" and then wake up in the afterlife where he will see Odin, which is what will lead into Thor 3 and begin the story of taking the throan from Loki

Also, Thor is their heaviest hitter (aside from Hulk). If he gets taken out of the game, it will be totally demoralizing and have a huge impact on the Avengers.

Thor's "death" is the only one that makes any sense with moving along the MCU. He's a big name character that can easily be brought back to life. It will also set up Thor 3. Cap dying doesn't make any sense at all in AoU, and none of the other characters do either, unless they are just going for shock value. Thor is the only death that would serve a purpose and the only death that can be fixed.
ClumsyToaster
ClumsyToaster - 3/7/2015, 11:39 PM
That's a fun theory, but I highly doubt it.
GeekyCheekyChic
GeekyCheekyChic - 3/8/2015, 7:26 AM
Cap dies BEFORE Civil War ?
Sense that does not make.
Its all been confirmed that its Steve vs Tony in Civil War so....moving on...
Rhodey dies. Thor is trapped in Hel and thought to be dead. Hulk is transported off earth like Red Skull was. Both are not coming back until Infinity War part 2 because it shift the tide of battle. Hawkeye may be seriously injured in AOU but not killed. Cap will probably "die" in Civil War and make the dramatic return in Infinity War when Thanos is gaining the upperhand.
You're welcome.
Hush2010
Hush2010 - 3/8/2015, 7:42 AM
Thor Dies
Hulk is shipped to space
Cap dies in CW
Tony Quits in CW
Peel
Peel - 3/8/2015, 8:31 AM
Captain America - 100% guaranteed to survive AoU
Iron Man - 100% guaranteed to survive AoU
Thor - Could die, then be brought back to life in Ragnarok, and be like EVERY OTHER CHARACTER IN THE MCU THAT'S DIED - BE BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE LATER ON
Hulk - Either will be shot up into space, or could die
Black Widow - 100% guaranteed to survive AoU
Hawkeye - 100% guaranteed to survive AoU
Quicksilver - Suspect to death
Scarlet Witch - Suspect to death

Nick Fury - I think he is the most likliest to die
War Machine - Whilst he may not die in the initial attack on Stark Tower, I think he could die later on in the movie

So overall, my top bets are;

1. Nick Fury
2. War Machine
3. Thor - then bring him back to life because Marvel are pussies...
4. Hulk
5. Quicksilver
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 3/8/2015, 9:22 AM
Why does a main hero need to die? I don't understand that. These are characters we've been waiting to have in movies for decades, and now they need to kill them off? For what purpose? I agree Rogers should be assassinated eventually, but I'm thinking more along the lines of the opening of Infinity War part 1, and he'll return in part 2.
OcciferPing
OcciferPing - 3/8/2015, 11:01 AM
Why the hell would Cap die if he's already set to appear in HIS OWN MOVIE the year after? That would be the dumbest thing. Hey let's just kill off Cap and launch Civil War with Bucky vs Iron Man hahaha and SPOILER ALERT no one dies because everyone has been confirmed for Civil War or other solo movies thanks to Marvel blowing their load too early so there goes any kind of suspense for AOU.
ToxicCap
ToxicCap - 3/8/2015, 11:30 AM
I think Thor would be killed then just be in Hel and, in Ragnarok, escape Hel.
sickboy76
sickboy76 - 3/8/2015, 11:45 AM
@Rextheking although you couldn't see him in that shot from above, I'm pretty certain ATJ was seen in the bts filming of that particular sequence. I could kinda see cap dying or injured so severely that he won't be a part of civil war. Maybe strange or Wanda use some of their hocus pocus to help him come infinity wars part 2 when the newest avengers get their asses handed to them by thanos
sickboy76
sickboy76 - 3/8/2015, 11:54 AM
Scratch that gone back and looked and there's no quicksilver or iron man
acorsi11
acorsi11 - 3/8/2015, 12:36 PM
There is no reason to kill Nick Fury. They "killed him" in CA:TWS and that was dramatic, but if they killed him again it would just be a repeat and lose all impact.
acorsi11
acorsi11 - 3/8/2015, 12:39 PM
I have been guessing Thor dies this whole year, and I am still sure of it. It will set up Ragnarok perfectly.

Hulk is sent into space, and it will set him up to be the main antagonist in Avengers:Infinity War Part 1, with Thanos, Red Skull, and maybe Loki also having roles.

Captain America won't die in Age of Ultron, that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Either they will kill him at the end of Civil War, which seems likely, or they will wait till Infinity War Part 1 or 2.

Stark won't die, he will win the Civil War and probobly be in charge of the Avengers still in Infinity War Part 1.
MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 3/8/2015, 6:02 PM
Sadly I too believe Rhodey will be the one to die. He will be an Avenger in the beginning of the film, and probably die during Ultron's attack on the team when they are playing around with Minjoir, I always spell it wrong.

I also too think if Cap dies it will be in Civil War.

I know Bucky took over for Cap in the comics, and he was pretty bad ass, but I never liked the idea of him taking the mantle. I always felt for some reason John Walker deserved the mantle before anybody. To be honest I don't think anybody should take the mantle of Captain America. Pass the shield but that person doesn't need to be called Captain America.
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 3/8/2015, 8:01 PM
*sigh* More of this "Steve Rogers has to die so Bucky can become Capt. America just like in the comics" nonsense. Steve Rogers is NOT dying in AoU. His next movie is already set, Chris Evans helped introduce it and Boseman as Black Panther. Killing off Steve Rogers and having Bucky be Capt. America in Civil War would create a huge backlash among general audiences, to whom Steve Rogers IS Capt. America. No, if a major Avenger dies it will be Thor, since part of his mythology is coming back from the afterlife. If minor Avenger dies, it'll probably be War Machine.
Wallymelon
Wallymelon - 3/8/2015, 10:30 PM
Definitely not going to die bro. That wouldn't make any sense. If he dies it woul be in Civil War, I honestly think it may be Nick Fury. Or no one could die at all.
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