AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY And SPIDER-MAN 4 Scripts Reportedly Still Not Finished

AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY And SPIDER-MAN 4 Scripts Reportedly Still Not Finished

We have an update on two of Marvel Studios' most anticipated movies, and we're hearing that the scripts for both Spider-Man 4 and Avengers: Doomsday are still not complete...

By MarkCassidy - Mar 07, 2025 07:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Doomsday

Though Marvel Studios is believed to have "cracked the story" for Avengers: Doomsday and Spider-Man 4, we're hearing that work continues on the scripts for both projects.

Marvel Studios had plans in place for a Kang-focused story in the fifth Avengers movie (FKA Avengers: The Kang Dynasty), but were forced to go back to the drawing board when actor Jonathan Majors was convicted of assault. The decision was then made to pivot to Doctor Doom, who will be played by Tony Stark actor Robert Downey Jr.

We're not sure exactly how much the original idea was altered, but coming up with a new story almost certainly involved more than simply switching one villain for another (some of the recently-revealed concept art might provide a few answers), and it sounds like the script still isn't quite where it needs to be.

According to scooper Daniel Richtman, Doomsday's script is not complete and will likely be worked on right up until April, shortly before filming is scheduled to commence. The same goes for Spider-Man 4, which we recently learned is set to shoot shortly after Doomsday in the UK.

The script for Tom Holland's next solo outing as the web-head, the film is believed to have undergone at least one major overhaul, possibly due to differences of opinion between Holland and Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige.

After reported disagreements about the best way to proceed, we've heard that Feige and Sony Pictures' Tom Rothman had settled on a mostly grounded story with some Multiversal elements, though the movie was still being described as an "Avengers-level event" up until very recently.

We have also heard that it will serve as a "direct sequel" to Doomsday, which may explain why both scripts are still being ironed out.

This isn't as unusual as you might think (the writing process often continues even when cameras are already rolling), and doesn't necessarily mean that shooting could be delayed (though it's certainly possible).

Avengers: Doomsday arrives in theaters on May 1, 2026, followed by Avengers: Secret Wars on May 7, 2027. Both films will be directed by the Russo brothers, who also make their MCU return after helming Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Captain America: Civil War, Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame

Spider-Man 4 was recently pushed back a week from July 24, 2026 to July 31, 2026.

"Being able to create stories and explore characters within the Marvel Universe fulfilled a life-long dream of ours, and we discovered a powerful connection with audiences in each film that we made. We’re thrilled to collaborate once again with Kevin, Lou and the entire Marvel team to bring this epic adventure in storytelling to new and surprising places for both the fans and ourselves”, said The Russos in a statement after the SDCC panel.

Have another look at some photos Downey Jr. shared to Instagram after the big reveal below.

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Batmangina
Batmangina - 3/7/2025, 7:31 AM
I'll be FIRST in line!!
Batmangina
Batmangina - 3/7/2025, 7:33 AM
@Batmangina - Just kidding. I'll wait for a shitty cam with hardcoded Chinese subs and shit on it then.
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McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/7/2025, 11:43 AM
@Batmangina - or those bootlegs with the black guy who interrupts the film with the loudest audience applause audio bit whilst he does card tricks to somehow advertise an illegal gambling website....


Am I the only one who has come across this? It sometimes scares the living shit out of me
bobevanz
bobevanz - 3/7/2025, 1:54 PM
Most of the movie is probably already made thanks to their gimmicky pre vis conundrum where they make half a movie, then hire someone to thread all the needles
Batmangina
Batmangina - 3/7/2025, 10:12 PM
@McMurdo - Okay, now I NEED the Black Dude Jump Scare Cut - minus any link spam.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 3/7/2025, 10:14 PM
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Skestra
Skestra - 3/7/2025, 7:37 AM
Haters can hate but I believe both projects are going to exceed expectations. I can't wait!
Usernametaken
Usernametaken - 3/7/2025, 7:39 AM
@Skestra - probably, but expectations are really low.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/7/2025, 9:56 AM
@Skestra -

Wow, this eight day old hotdog was only mildly bad for my taste buds and health.
Reginator
Reginator - 3/7/2025, 7:37 AM
who needs a script? just pump out more disney garbage and wonder why profits are down.
gambgel
gambgel - 3/7/2025, 7:53 AM
Hopefully these scripts arent being overseen by the same people that oversaw Captain America Brave New World original script and the reshoots script.

Just saying.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 3/7/2025, 8:01 AM
Holland is still working on his backstory
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 3/7/2025, 8:13 AM
RDJ is still working on his back story.

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 3/7/2025, 8:17 AM
what a complete phucking mess, syder cut would have easily finished both Scripts by now


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URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 3/7/2025, 8:18 AM
It's always a great sign when your movie is about to be shot in a few weeks and you're still writing a script. It's also great that the script needs to follow up what have been two giant cluster [frick]s of franchise making that are the post-Endgame phases of the MCU.

Good luck, Russos... you'll need it.
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 3/7/2025, 9:17 AM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS - It managed to work out well for the Iron Man movie.
URCOMMENTSUCKS
URCOMMENTSUCKS - 3/7/2025, 10:43 AM
@WEAPONXOXOXO - Comparing Secret Wars and Doomsday that have like 60 characters to Iron Man which is a superhero origin story is quite a cope. Also, Iron Man had a plot that was written. The only thing that kept adding on was the dialogue scenes.
WEAPONXOXOXO
WEAPONXOXOXO - 3/7/2025, 10:57 AM
@URCOMMENTSUCKS - I must have missed the part in the article that said they had no plot yet. Thanks.
cerrone6
cerrone6 - 3/7/2025, 8:23 AM
No problem take the time needed to make it right.
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 3/7/2025, 8:32 AM
the absolute worst thing the MCU could do right now is rush out some more slop. Take your time, get a great script together. if it means these movies come out in 2027, 28, so be it. Stop the bullshit. take a breath. focus on a single great movie.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 3/7/2025, 8:40 AM

Most of the post Endgame MCU movies looked like they never finished their scripts, but they made and released them all anyway.

Oberlin4Prez
Oberlin4Prez - 3/7/2025, 8:54 AM
Double flops incoming
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/7/2025, 8:56 AM
Not surprising since Marvel continues to work on their scripts till shooting (and even during to an extent) so it’s business as usual for them I feel.

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Anyway , i hope both films turn out well.
SATW42
SATW42 - 3/7/2025, 8:57 AM
This is completely normal, as the article says itself, just paragraphs into it.

WHat level of "not finished" are we even talking about here, things change in the script literally while filming. Like why are we talking about the script like it's a bible instead of it being a thing that changes and evolves?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/7/2025, 9:07 AM
@SATW42 - because a lot of the people on this site don’t know better (even though they act like they do) so they are guillible

Outrage leads to clicks.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/7/2025, 8:59 AM
I'll write 'em for you! Give me three months I'll give you two killer scripts. Oh you need them by this weekend? lol, okay you're on your own, smh
Wahhvacado
Wahhvacado - 3/7/2025, 9:22 AM
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DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 3/7/2025, 9:51 AM
@Wahhvacado - lol at the name change
Wahhvacado
Wahhvacado - 3/7/2025, 10:12 AM
@DarthOmega - Ha yeah I was thinking of rebranding and this was just too perfect to pass up
gambgel
gambgel - 3/7/2025, 9:33 AM
Am I the only one that is kinda done with Spiderman?

I feel like he has been in too many movies and its "been there done that". Give me other characters now, thank you.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/7/2025, 9:49 AM
@gambgel - Probably the single most popular comic book character of all time and certainly the most profitable one when it comes to films? Yes, you are probably in a tiny minority as most at least want to see the first street level adult Peter Parker solo film for this version, the issue is more we may not be getting what we want with SM4 thus unsure how much we will like it but done with him completely? Nope, not yet anyway and likely never even if any are at a point ready for a reboot with a fourth actor in the role.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/7/2025, 9:51 AM
@gambgel -

Kind of. I get that.

I'm more done with so so liberal Spider-Man.

Let's have Peter meet a beautiful White redhead Mary Jane Watson, and have them marry by 2035.

In the comics have Peter and MJ married again.
gambgel
gambgel - 3/7/2025, 9:59 AM
@Apophis71 - yes, he is the most popular Marvel character.

but that doesnt change the fact that his movies feel reduntant and arent adding anything new, so its a tired concept at this point. (unless a very talented director/writer creates something fresh, but that is more a miracle than a likely scenario for the near future)
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/7/2025, 10:55 AM
@gambgel - Keeping it fresh is key and if it were a fourth high school version I may well be closer to your PoV. However nobody knowing who Peter is, the death of his Aunt, no longer in high school and lost all his friends, Mayor Fisk pushing an anti-vigilante stance plus the ramifications of Doomsday the next film SHOULD be very different in a number of ways. As such think it is the wrong point to give up on him with, if SM4 feels more of the same and not good a lot may end up where you are with him.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/7/2025, 11:12 AM
@gambgel -
I'm bored with the direction the MCU is taking him, we've not seen a lot of the relatable aspects of the character be explored and he keeps being told the same lessons and failing to apply them. A lot of fans are calling out for a more serious and grounded character exploration with street-level characters - but Disney want multiverse so they can tie it in with the Avengers films to boost those films. It'd be horrific for Disney if Avengers 5/6 perform worse than Spider-man 4, especially seeing as Avengers 5/6 will likely be $400m+ budgets each while Spider-man 4 could easily fall in line with the other films around $200m.

They severely damaged the portrayal of his origin to the point where we don't even have a clear idea of who told him the 'great power comes great responsibility' as it was seemingly told to him by Uncle Ben, Tony Stark, Aunt May and the Spider-men.

Now they are stuck in a writing hole where they can't really do much with the character without it being damaged by previous films.

• You can't have Spider-man on his own because the next film he appears in is an Avengers movie, potentially even before his solo movie.
• You can't have people know who Spider-man is under the mask because then you remove the consequence of No Way Home.
• You can't have any pre-existing dynamics between Spider-man and other heroes or characters because everyone forgot Peter and their interactions with Spider-man (As confirmed by Doctor Strange: MoM)
• You can't have Peter connect with people because he has had three movies showing why him having personal connections would be exploited by his villains.
• You can't bring in characters like Gwen or Harry or any of the other previously established characters in this universe because he's already been warned what would happen if he were to interact with them - and you've burned a lot of his core villains in other material.

The only interesting story they have left is the symbiote story-line, but even that is fricked by the MCU. Flash Thompson is barely a character, let alone one fans would want to get the symbiote. Mac Gargan has been absent for an in-universe decade. They could introduce Eddie Brock, but we've seen him done in Spider-man 3 and the Venom films. Audiences who watched those films would expect vigilante style Venom as opposed to Venom as the antagonist straight-up.

We've seen the symbiote as a parallel to addiction/drug abuse/pride in Spider-man 3 so the only path for that story would be having it tied to his self-neglect/depression/anger, choosing to focus on Spider-man instead of his everyday life. The film eventually convincing us and Peter that he needs a balance and that his everyday life is important - he can't just escape from his real life as Spider-man... but I don't have the faith that Disney would do that storyline, especially as it'd critique escapism, let alone do it well.

With the uneasy state of the MCU, we could even be looking at another reboot of Spider-man soon because it's unlikely Tom Holland will want to keep doing the role endlessly.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/7/2025, 11:44 AM
@gambgel - MCU spiderman has never done it for me.
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