THE BATMAN PART II: Is It Too Little Too Late For Matt Reeves' Long-Delayed Sequel?

THE BATMAN PART II: Is It Too Little Too Late For Matt Reeves' Long-Delayed Sequel?

By the time The Batman Part II arrives, it will have been over five years since the first film's release. Some have speculated it's now too late for the sequel, but is that actually the case?

Editorial Opinion
By DanielKlissmman - May 28, 2025 01:05 PM EST
Filed Under: The Batman

The Batman franchise has had an interesting success story. Upon its release, the movie hit both critically and financially, making $772,319,315 worldwide. After that, came The Penguin. Despite some initial doubts about the viability of a Batman villain successfully leading his own TV show, the prestige HBO series garnered critical acclaim, and left many excited about the prospect of a second season. 

Yet, despite those victories, there's been a looming shadow cast over the franchise for the past few years: The many delays of its sequel. The Batman Part II was announced all the way back in 2022, and has since been repeatedly delayed. It was first announced to be released October 3, 2025. It was then delayed to October 2, 2026. Lastly, it was pushed back to October 1, 2027 — its current release date. 

There has been a lot of speculation regarding the postponments, but given the personal reasons that have been alluded to have played part in such developments, I will not be touching the reasons behind them. The delays have happened at the same time that James Gunn and Peter Safran's DCU is taking shape and gearing up to introduce a Batman of its own.

These situations have prompted some to wonder: Given its arrival over five years after its predecessor, right in the middle of the birth of a new DC Universe on screen, is 'The Batman' sequel irrelevant at this point? Is it too little too late for the movie? They're fair questions to ask, given the fast-paced nature of Hollywood and the seemingly incessant demand for superhero IP on the big screen. In reality, however, they have no merit. 

The Batman Part II Has Plenty of Gas in the Tank

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Batman remains one of the biggest box office draws for Warner Bros. A prime example is, interesting enough, The Batman. The film arrived in the midst of the DCEU's infmaous financial woes and as Hollywood was still recovering from the COVID-19 pandemic. Despite that, it still found great success at the box office — and, even more impressively, without it being part of a broad cinematic universe. Prior to that, the last standalone Batman film, The Dark Knight Rises, made over $1 billion globally.

In short: The Dark Knight is a hot commodity for WB, so it will arguably never be late for a Batman film to come out. Yes, one could argue that's not the same case for a sequel. After all, if you wait too long, you run the risk of audiences losing interest in the property, not feeling excitement once the sequel arrives. Yet, there's a big advantage: There have been no other Batman features released since The Batman

The Caped Crusader has been absent from theaters for years, and his return — regardless of it being in a sequel or not — will likely attract the same financial response his many other live-action ventures have gotten in more modern times, ever since the release of Batman Begins in 2005. Adding to that (although, perhaps, in a minor way), Robert Pattinson's take on the Dark Knight was well-received, which could better the likelihood of a healthy financial outcome for the project. 

On the critical side, there's also little to worry about. Matt Reeves is known as a methodical filmmaker. He takes his time with his projects., but once they come out, the time he put into them is palpable. Repeat viewings of his films can feel like almost new experiences due to the many different details spread throughout for viewers to find and analyze. With that, it's more than likely that The Batman Part II will enjoy the same critical reception as its predecessor. 

Fortunately, things seem to finally be moving forward for the movie. It is rumored to start filming in early 2026, and Reeves is reportedly either close to, or has finalized his script. 

So, in short, no, it is not too late for The Batman sequel. The film centeres on a character who's a proven box office draw, the cast was well-received by audiences, and there have been no other big-screen Batman projects released since The Batman to make a sequel to Matt Reeves' crime adventure feel irrelevant in any way.

Things could have been different if the DCU's new Batman had already had a movie out. But, since that is not the case, The Batman Part II likely has nothing to worry about in terms of relevance once it's released on October 1, 2027. 

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SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 5/28/2025, 1:35 PM
This movie was good, casting and acting was great, but never made sense to be made in the first place. And now a sequel is going to come too close time-wise to whatever the DCU is cooking. Let it be done, move on.
Nonameforme
Nonameforme - 5/28/2025, 1:40 PM
The movie was garbage. Every second sucked.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 5/28/2025, 1:53 PM
@Nonameforme - The first trailer was good, I'll give it that but that's literally it. Sooner they drop this Nolan Kurt Cobain wannabe, the sooner we can get a new Batman that's hopefully more fathful.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/28/2025, 2:01 PM
@HashTagSwagg - the trailers made it appear like it was going to be a smart detective thriller. It was my most hyped film maybe ever....and then after seeing the film, Batman was just kinda a moron the entire runtime. He was a bad detective so much so that I didn't understand why he was being allowed into crime scenes.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 5/28/2025, 2:27 PM
@McMurdo - Even the part where he beats down that first thug was watered down from what we got in the trailer. The sounds they used in the actual film were just lame by comparison. Not to mention Batman's constant cowboy clings evertimes he takes a step, dude couldn't sneak up on a turtle.


McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/28/2025, 7:04 PM
@HashTagSwagg - so true on the cowboy clings dude and that kinda epitomizes the film. It's all aestheticism over character and story.
Spidey215
Spidey215 - 5/28/2025, 9:35 PM
@McMurdo - I thought the film was going to be the next evolutionary step in terms of Burton/Nolan hybrid - in terms of aesthetic and philosophically - with a truly intellectual noir narrative, at its core. I never imagined it to be a literal rip off compilation of scenes from Zodiac, Se7en, The Dark Knight, The Crow & Darren Aronofsky’s 70’s inspired Batman Year One.

I mean seriously:
Riddler’s John Doe inspired apartment.

Riddler turns himself in like John Doe.

The weak incel livestreams inspired by Joker’s terrifying News reports from TDK.

The weak Zodiac inspired costume design & zodiac styled murder

Cringe Kurt Cobain inspiration as a covering to really emulate and mimick the emo/grunge aesthetic of The Crow.

The horribly written and acted interrogation that is clearly taken from Se7en and TDK.

I was truly disappointed in what Reeves created.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/28/2025, 10:58 PM
@Spidey215 - yeah man. Can't disagree with everything you stated. Maybe the biggest cinema let down of the last 10 years for me. The trailer was that great. Everything we were hearing leading up was that great. It just didn't stick the landing.
Spidey215
Spidey215 - 5/29/2025, 4:26 AM
@McMurdo - @McMurdo - I messed up my message due to autocorrect and repeated copy and paste but you get the point.

The Fandome trailer, as you stated, really was fantastic. Along with the synopsis of the world Reeves was giving us:

No Origin. But still a young Batman.

Perfect Year Two timeline with characters like Catwoman, Penguin, Riddler already existing.

A 3 Hour Detective noir murder mystery! With influence from Chinatown, Klute, the French Connection!

For the 1st time, I genuinely thought we were getting a genius level showdown between Batman & Riddler like the comics. Sherlock Holmes vs Moriarty!

And then…… None of that happened. They didn’t play into any Noir tropes either: The private detective (Batman), Femme Fatale (Catwoman), The hired Muscule (Penguin), etc. He would’ve been better off making a Batman movie inspired by LA Confidential!

But to literally copy and paste Zodiac, Se7en, and TDK is ridiculous. Along with the boring Joker scene was basically a watered down Mindhunter / Silence of the lambs scene.

It succeeds in some aspect. It’s was perfect blend of Burton’s Fantasy & Nolan’s Realism. It’s aesthetically pleasing. The cast is youthful call back to 90’s or 2000’s MTV era. All skilled indie actors. Like A24 Batman. I like that he revamped Aronofsky’s ideas and made them more palatable. (Bruce rejecting his wealth, the Batmobile inspired by a muscle car.)

But for Reeves to take multiple years on the script for part 1 and now part 2 (excluding C-19 and his personal issue) is ridiculous. His script wasted the talents of Paul Dano. Zoe & Pattinson were marvelous. (The only good scene in the movie were Bruce spying on Selina & their espionage team up at the club) Farrell’s Penguin was better in the show which reeves had NO PART in writing!

They should give The Batman 2 to The Penguin show runners! End rant.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/29/2025, 2:40 PM
@Spidey215 - yeah there's stuff they got right. Like Pattinson is a brilliant actor and although they went super Kurt with Bruce (I love Nirvana so in THEORY I was on board with this) I don't think he was really the problem. Sad angry Bruce makes sense but they kinda went too late 93, early 94 ready to die Kurt and missed the anger and angst and energy that gave us Nevermind and led to Reading 1992 and In Utero era Kurt. He was too mopey. He called himself vengeance but much of the time I didn't feel that vengeance.

The writing is the weakest aspect of that film and it needed to be the strongest. If you're gonna rip Se7en and Zodiac you need to have Fincher level screenwriting and characterization, and Reeves doesn't bring that to the table. He's got a fantastic visual eye buy he can't write great IMO.

What kills me is the iceberg lounge photographs featuring Catwomans girl Anya....they are all taken FROM THE SAME EXACT ANGLE.....aka Riddlers apartment window. And Batman in this film is too dumb to consider such a slam dunk and obvious clue! The first thing any basic beat cop thinks when viewing those photos is "well they all are taken from the same overhead vantage point so we should go investigate that apartment complex right there"....but they don't because then Reeves script gets to act 3 way faster than he intends. It's just not a smart noir thriller. Bats needs a guy with a uncle in the carpet laying business to progress us to act 3???

So what does this Batman do well that justifies Gordon and the cops letting him in on political elite homicide scenes? He's just a weirdo in a bat suit.

And I get He's young and angry but the whole driving the wrong way through traffic and blasting a glass ceiling above a stadium of people just doesn't sit right with me. He can be angry and not be a moron.

Just a superbly frustrating film.

This was long winded but in regards to part 2, I think it's less that Reeves has personal problems in his life and more that he's struggled to figure out how to adequately develop the sequel in a satisfying way by which the fans wouldn't rip him a new one. He never even attempted to write or adapt Bruce Wayne in part 1, no Bruce utilizing his wealth, fame, public persona to further his agenda on crime as the batman....he was just sad Batman. So in part 2 Reeves has to actually bridge THAT part 1 character into the Bruce Wayne from the comics and I personally believe he's struggled with that. Because his Bruce is basically socially retarded in part 1.....and I'm not sure he has a great idea with regards to where to take this Batman, the vigilante version of the character next either. We keep hearing HUSH this HUSH that but Reeves already aped Hush for his version of the Riddler so if he goes the Hush route it's going to essentially just be him regurgitating his first villain.

My bad how long this got.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/29/2025, 2:47 PM
@Spidey215 - also I fully agree on Penguin. The writing is astronomically better in every facet than the Batman. The characterization alone is leagues above Reeves' work in Gotham. Lauren Lefranc is the showrunner of Penguin and she wrote the first and final episodes...but obviously was integral to that series being fantastic from beginning to end. SHE should be writing Batman part 2. But Reeves ain't gonna allow that to happen because it would take away his spotlight. He kinda axed the guy who co wrote the first film with him only to beg him to come back for part 2.
TrentCrimm
TrentCrimm - 5/28/2025, 1:45 PM
To me momentum is a big part of keeping my interest in some of this stuff, we see it a lot with Marvel too, I loved Moon Knight for example, but after this much time, it's so far in the back of my mind that I hardly think about it anymore.

Imo if you're releasing something and giving the expectation of a sequel/continuation, then you need to keep that expectation as a priority. It's not to say the finished product wont be good or enjoyable once it finally comes, but that momentum drives the excitement, and when you lose that you lose some of the spark, for me anyway.

At this point whether they make the movie, or don't make the movie, I couldn't care less.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 5/28/2025, 1:45 PM
yes,
((picture of a naked Henry Cavill))
the bat is dead, bury it.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 5/28/2025, 1:45 PM
I agree , it’s not too late…

Sequels usually do take atleast 3-4 years to come and this has been compounded by the strikes and apparent personal issues Reece’s has had.

Plus , it helps that we had the Penguin last year which was not only critically acclaimed but has also still kept interest alive for Reeves take on the characters & their world…

Anyway , I hope the sequel happens because I have been a big fan of The Batman & The Penguin so I want to see more of this universe!!.
MisterBones
MisterBones - 5/28/2025, 1:55 PM
It will have been 5 years since the first film if this comes out in 2027. And who knows if it even comes out 2027. Part of me thinks Gunn and company are apprehensive with all of this given they have to introduce their own Batman.
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 5/28/2025, 1:57 PM
Is it too [frick]ing late?

Is that a [frick]ing trick question?

We need to wait for a follow-up five years later, and in between, another world is being created with the same character.

Well, [frick] me, is it too late??

Who [frick]ing comes up with this shit?

For [frick]s Sake
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/28/2025, 1:58 PM
Is this just Chandler McDaniel under a new handle? Dude has the exact same superfluous style when it comes to these articles.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 5/28/2025, 3:11 PM
@McMurdo - LOL, great question and i was thinking something similar
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 5/28/2025, 4:41 PM
@McMurdo -

And is chandler just Josh Wildings split personality?
RolandD
RolandD - 5/28/2025, 6:23 PM
@HulkisHoly @McMurdo @MotherGooseUPus - Both Klissmman and McNeil have a presence on the net as writers in the field of movies, superheroes, etc. I have even seen pictures of McNeil. I think it would be way more trouble to try and spoof people with fake information on the net for Josh to put up fake authors. For that matter, it’s been ages since I’ve seen a story by Hamilton Parker or the other authors that we were all pretty sure were actually Josh. I think these are two separate people and actually legit. Hey, maybe I’m the world‘s greatest detective. I do google the hell out of everything.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 5/28/2025, 6:44 PM
@RolandD -

Fair enough
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/28/2025, 7:02 PM
@RolandD - yeah you can tell it ain't Josh BUT if Josh did do that, and made up two separate online profiles to support this master plan of journalistic villainy.....would be kinda badass in a comicbookmovie.com kinda way.
RolandD
RolandD - 5/28/2025, 7:04 PM
@McMurdo - That it would, my friend. Hopefully we haven’t given him ideas
McMurdo
McMurdo - 5/28/2025, 7:07 PM
@RolandD - lol
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 5/28/2025, 7:29 PM
@RolandD - welp fair enough. Ive never dkne any googling for fake or real online journalist so I believe ya... would be kinda funny if it was Josh who was playing us all lol
B1ackManta
B1ackManta - 5/28/2025, 2:06 PM
It’s not too late. I’m more excited for this than any other movie on Dc’s slate
JobinJ
JobinJ - 5/28/2025, 2:11 PM
It was meh. Boring. Demo Batman was lame. Move on
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 5/28/2025, 2:14 PM
No. People need to learn to be patient. There's enough mediocre comic book products on the market; we don't need rushed Batman movies to add to the list.
VicSage
VicSage - 5/28/2025, 2:15 PM
This is one of my favorite Batman films and I love Reeves’ work. We’ve waited this long. Let him at least do his sequel. I would love to see the entirety of his Batman Epic Crime saga. If we can’t see it all the way through, I’d appreciate at least seeing a sequel.

But honestly, I don’t see the conflict or rush. The DCU needs to build itself around other characters. WB/DC knows Batman is a hot commodity. Build out the rest of your roster. No better time than now.

Gunn’s approach to developing other characters is exactly what DC should be prioritizing. Peacemaker, Green Lantern, Task Force M, and more. Batman and his universe can wait.
SteviesRightFoo
SteviesRightFoo - 5/28/2025, 2:17 PM
Yes
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 5/28/2025, 2:25 PM
I'm honestly kinda over it and no longer looking forward to a second. Idk what's going on behind the scenes, sorrows and prayers if it's serious, but it's time to move on. No one's thinking about this movie anymore.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 5/28/2025, 2:26 PM
This website [frick]ing sucks. We have one editor asking if the tepid response to Brave New World was legit and someone’s alt account posting if it’s “too late” for a sequel for probably one of the best cbms of the last 3 years.

Y’all actually deserve the shit that we’re getting now.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 5/28/2025, 2:31 PM
Let it go
Blergh
Blergh - 5/28/2025, 2:45 PM
Loved the first one but yes, it’s too late and always was the wrong time for this movie.
It came out between the awkward time of DC being rearranged by WB. Back when they wanted to focus on unrelated movies not linked through a cinematic universe.
They pretty much announced Gunn’s universe shortly before this released.

When was the time to start production on a sequel? The day the box office numbers were out and Gunn couldn’t derail this movies place on the schedule. Can’t even blame Gunn to treat it like a stepchild, it’s in the way of his universe and rings way too close to the Nolan-school of superhero movies, a brand he’s not open to use himself.
And with there not being any producer to keen on it, a filmmaker who needs a championing producer to make it happen I don’t see a future for a sequel down the line.

If one comes, it’ll be quickly abandoned after release.

IMO Battinson should be part of Gunn’s world, stand parallel to Superman. Films can have vastly different tones and still be connected (think Spy Kids & Machete). DC would be one step closer to their universe, especially since Reeves version was critically well received. They’d already have a slam dunk on their hands for their universe.

Reminds me of the Dark Universe Desaster. First Wolfman was supposed to be the “start” of the universe, then that wasn’t hailed as a hit and the following movie, “Dracula Untold”, was supposed to be the official “start”. Then that one bombed as wasn’t well received. “The Mummy” was supposed to be the start…you know the rest.
They were too picky with their choices and I firmly hate that they didn’t just go with the punches and built upon them instead of abandoning it all
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 5/28/2025, 3:25 PM
@Blergh - User Comment Image
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 5/28/2025, 4:52 PM
@Blergh -

Correct. The MCU wasn’t all hits leading up to the avengers. In fact, critical and box office reception of Hulk, Thor, and Cap 1 were mediocre. Only Iron Man 1-2 were massive money makers. BUT feige stuck with it to get to avengers. He stayed the course.

Let’s hope Gunn/ WB can do that even if a couple of the films are mediocre. As long as it’s leading to something awesome and well written…STAY THE COURSE.

That was the problem with the DCEU as well. Every movie was basically a reboot.
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