The History of the Batman and Superman Movies; Chapter 4: Joel Shumacher and the Movies of Doom

The History of the Batman and Superman Movies; Chapter 4: Joel Shumacher and the Movies of Doom

Let's look at the history of the Batman films that were so bad that the director apologized.

Editorial Opinion
By Quicker - Apr 05, 2016 09:04 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman

CHAPTER 4:
JOEL SHUMACHER AND THE MOVIES OF DOOM

Batman Returns has split many peoples. People love the 1989 film, but were very mixed on Returns. Some said it was an interesting twist on the characters, other said it was nothing but a darker version og the 60s tv show. Personally, I like the Burton Batman films in the same way I like the Singer/Vaughn X-Men films. While they stray from the comics, I enjoy them for what they are. And Burton is a great director, though there's no denying he hasn't made some duds. 

He's made some great films that were 100% suited for his style...


some films that weren't perfect, but were pretty enjoyable..

and some films that were just plain bad.

However, Burton's Batman 3 sounded interesting, to say the least.

Burton's third Batman film, Batman Continues, had Micheal Keaton and Billy Dee Williams return as Batman and Harvey Dent, who was to become Two-Face. The late great Robin Williams was cast as the Riddler. Rene Russo was cast as the love interest. And, after two movies where he almost played Robin, Marlon Waynes was cast as the Boy Wonder. And Catwoman was supposed to cameo. Burton was ready to go... 

In the last chapter, I noted how WB giving Burton full creative control on Returns was a mistake. See, when he brought more of the Burton style into Returns, people didn't react nicely and the film didn't make as much as WB wanted to. So they wanted to put the franchise in a more mainstream direction. So Burton was booted off the project and was replaced with Joel Shumacher.

A treatment for Batman Forever was written which includedthe Riddler, like Burton wanted, except he was a psychopath with a pet rat. Shumacher kept many elements from the script, but said the script should be "lightened down". This resulted in Micheal Keaton and Rene Russo leaving because they didn't like the direction the film was going in. Shumacher also wanted to base the film off of Frank Miller's Year One, but WB turned it down, as they wanted a sequel, not a prequel. 

Now for casting. After Russo left, Robin Wright and Linda Hamilton were considered for her part before it went to Nicole Kidman. Shumacher decided to switch out Waynes with a white actor and they wanted Leonardo DiCaprio or Mark Wahlberg. But the role went to Chris O'Donell After Keaton left, Ethan Hawke, Johnny Depp, William Baldwin, Tom Hanks, Keanu Reeves, Alec Baldwin, Ralph Finnes, and Kurt Russell were all considered for Batman. Kilmer conflicted with Shumacher, but bonned with Jim Carrey. Speaking of Carrey, before he was cast as the Riddler, Micky Dolenz was considered after Robin Williams left. Also, Micheal Jackson lobbied hard for the part. Carrey also conflicted with Tommy Lee Jones, who played Two-Face. Shumacher said he would never work with Kilmer, Jones, or Carrey again.

And he kept his word on that...


for the most part.

When the film was released, it did what WB wanted it to do... better box office. However, it got mixed reviews from critics. Some liked Carrey and Kilmer, while others disliked Jones, Kidman, and the giant tonal shift between movies. Nonetheless, the film was still a hit. So WB sannounced a fourth film.

In August 1995, Shumacher and writer Akiva Goldsmith signed on for Batman & Robin. When the two were making A Time To Kill, they started to develop the story. Shumacher wanted the film to be a homage to the 60s show. He also based some of the story off the Batman: TAS episode, Heart of Ice, which reinvented Mr Freeze into a darker character. This is where the problems come in.

Look, I have no problem with a full-on campy Batman. In fact, I think The LEGO Batman Movie looks great. But Shumacher wants Batman & Robin to be based off of the 60s show and the goofier Batman comics. And combining that with the darker Batman will make the film uneven. This is reflected in the final film.

Now for casting. William Baldwin was going to replace Kilmer, but the role went to George Clooney. Patrick Stewart was considered for Mr Freeze, while Hulk Hogan and Anthony Hopkins auditioned. 

 

When the movie was released, here's how people reacted...

The movie was critically panned for the acting, humour, characters, story, and writing. The film was also a box office bomb and is still the lowest-grossing Batman film.


Live-action Batman film, I mean.
I swear Mask of the Phantasm would have been a hit if it had better marketing people.

 

But enought about Batman. Let's talk about Superman and the films of Superman that never came to be.

 

TO BE CONTINUED...

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SuperbatSpider1003
SuperbatSpider1003 - 4/6/2016, 5:50 AM
Loving it
Batman89mk
Batman89mk - 4/6/2016, 6:30 AM
Damn it. Stop treating Batman and Robin like it is Batman 89 or Batman Begins! We all know it was supose to be part of 89/Returns/Forever, but it was not! This was made to be a kids version, like Batman '66. There I said it. It's a friggen kids movie, always has, always will be. Sit kids in front of it and it will get a 90 in Rotten Tomatos. Next time you watch it watch it, watch it as a kids movie, think Disney, and believe or not, with a different mind set, it really is not a bad movie, for kids! Yes, I love Batman '89 and had high hopes with Cloney comming in and O'Donnell, this was going to be great, but not being a Burton version, it wasn't. My biggest wish was Keaton with O'Donnell's older Robin in Forever, and Robin Williams as the Riddler, darker, done by Burton. That would have been the best Batman movie to date! The younger Kilmer with the older O'Donnell's Robin/Dick Grayson, just threw the movie off. How Bob Kane saw Kilmer as his favorite Batman/Bruce Wayne I don't get.
Quicker
Quicker - 4/6/2016, 2:00 PM
@Batman89mk - Look, "it's a kid's movie" is, has, and always will be a terrible defense for a movie. There are films aimed at kids that are actually good like Zootopia or Harry Potter (at least the first three). But there are films aimed at kids that are garbage, like Alvin and the Chipmunks. Plus, Batman & Robin is a film that doesn't know if it wants to be a kids movie. Half the time it is. Half the time it isn't. Plus, there are better movies to show kids. Also, most kids don't care about story structure or character development or acting. Plus, there are better Batman shows and movies aimed toward kids (Batman:TAS). Batman & Robin sucks. No matter what you label it as.
Batman89mk
Batman89mk - 4/6/2016, 4:53 PM
@Quicker - Last I remember both Joel and WB said they wanted9 to make it kid friendly and sell a lot of toys. It was also geared to sell Happy Meal toys at McDonalds because of the issues from Batman Returns. I do agree there are plot points and a story that many kids don't pay much attention to. We agree there. Then again that can be said for 3 seasons and a movie for the 60's Batman TV show. Like you said there are better kid movies, never said it was a great movie for kids, I said its not bad. Kids like super heros. Hell, when I was a kid in the 70s I watched Shazam with a lot of other kids back then. It gave us our comic book hero on tv for a half hour. This movie gave kids a live campy version of Batman and Robin on screen. And for all the Batman doesn't kill fans, this Batman didn't kill anyone. By the way, I will take Keaton and Afleck's Batman that kills any day over this Batman.
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