BLACK PANTHER: Rumored Plans For The Hero Reveal That Shuri Will Pass The Mantle To [SPOILER]

BLACK PANTHER: Rumored Plans For The Hero Reveal That Shuri Will Pass The Mantle To [SPOILER]

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever introduced us to T'Challa's son, also called T'Challa, and a new report claims that he's next in line to become the Marvel Cinematic Universe's Black Panther. Check it out!

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By JoshWilding - Jun 28, 2024 07:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Black Panther
Source: The Cosmic Circus

Before actor Chadwick Boseman passed away in 2020, the plan had been for him to take centre stage in a Black Panther sequel as T'Challa. 

Few details have been revealed, though we know the idea was for him to clash with Namor the Submariner while getting to know the son he'd only just discovered existed after vanishing during the Blip. Marvel Studios decided against recasting the role and instead had T'Challa die off-screen, with a reluctant Shuri inheriting the "Black Panther" mantle. 

While Letitia Wright is expected to reprise the role in upcoming MCU projects, it appears she's just keeping the suit warm for the next Black Panther.

According to The Cosmic Circus' Alex Perez, "Shuri is still taking time for herself, as she is not interested in the slightest in being Queen of Wakanda. She is still keeping the mantle of Black Panther, BUT, I am hearing that she will eventually pass on the mantle to the one true successor of the throne of Wakanda, the young Prince T’Challa, son of King T’Challa."

"It is to my understanding that she, along with Okoye and Nakia, are raising this child so he can eventually take on the mantle and become the next ruler of Wakanda and Black Panther."

This development is one we expected after Black Panther: Wakanda Forever but it's how Marvel Studios handles the transition which will now be interesting. The MCU's rumoured soft reboot would allow the new T'Challa to be aged up; otherwise, we'll have to wait this out in real-time and will potentially get a teenage Black Panther. 

For what it's worth, Perez adds, "[The] story they have planned with his son is absolutely lovely, and I quite frankly would love to see it unfold as they have planned."

Wright was recently asked about her MCU future and, despite playing coy, all but confirmed that she'll return to the role pretty soon. 

"If it's, uh, let's just say, let's just say..." Wright started, clearly choosing her words carefully. "I would like to continue with Shuri. She's one of my favorite characters, such a blessing, honestly, I kid you not. I'm so grateful for her."

"There's a lot coming up," she then teased, likely referring to Avengers 5 (according to The Hollywood Reporter, Marvel Studios has yet to officially greenlight Black Panther 3).

How do you feel about T'Challa's son potentially picking up where his father left off? As always, let us know your thoughts in the comments section.

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Origame
Origame - 6/28/2024, 7:14 AM
They could've also just recast to begin with instead of making a movie cashing in on the death of a real person.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 6/28/2024, 8:07 AM
@Origame - they cant help but inject real world issues into their escapism entertainment at every chance.
Origame
Origame - 6/28/2024, 8:11 AM
@Ryguy88 - especially when Chadwick wanted tchalla to be the James bond of black people.
TheLight
TheLight - 6/28/2024, 8:29 AM
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All of this could've been avoided if Disney weren't so greedy and some of the fans weren't so selfish. Chadwick, rest his soul, wanted T'Challa's story to continue on. I understood the grief that the fans suffered at his sudden death, but labeling that real event into a fictional one was arrogantly egotistic. Most people today act like recasting is some taboo restriction when it's been part of cinema for decades.
Origame
Origame - 6/28/2024, 8:48 AM
@TheLight - what they should've done is wait like 2 years for people to calm down then announce the recast.

But no. They saw dollar signs in marketing this as basically chadwicks funeral and that year announced they were just killing off tchalla. Then pretended they had a middle ground by introducing his kid, even though he's objectively a different character with different life experiences.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/28/2024, 9:30 AM
@Origame - I've been saying this since day one. They should have recast Chadwick, Chris Evans, and RDJ. Because the Marvel Universe is just weird without those characters.

I know it would have been hard to get people over those actors being replaced. But of they had taken their time and made thoughtful casting choices it could have worked. The characters and universe are more important than the actors playing them. Always.

When we first found out they weren't going to recast Boseman I was even told by another user that I just didn't understand black culture so I wouldn't understand why they aren't recasting him. I asked him 3 times to please explain it to me then, and he wouldn't. "I just wouldn't understand". Lol
TheLight
TheLight - 6/28/2024, 6:30 PM
@Origame - "what they should've done is wait like 2 years for people to calm down then announce the recast.

But no. They saw dollar signs in marketing this as basically chadwicks funeral and that year announced they were just killing off tchalla. Then pretended they had a middle ground by introducing his kid, even though he's objectively a different character with different life experiences."


Exactly! And yeah now by zooming in his kid as a band-aid, they think all will be forgiven. Like you said, T'Challa Jr will be different and if he isn't received well, then that's it.
JDL
JDL - 6/29/2024, 4:01 AM
@Origame - @CorndogBurglar @TheLight

Recasting T'Challa

You guys are 100% convinced that recasting would work and I'm not. In my gut I am 100% convinced that the AA fan base would have never accepted it. But for the sake of argument lets say it I'm not 100% right. Had you all considered the types of a-holes who review bomb for the fun of it or just like to stir up trouble because they hate the MCU ?

These days you just can't recover from negative internet campaigns easily. Given that we have seriously lowered box office expectations on all but a few releases the risk associated with a recasting isn't justifiable.

The other thing is that if a complete MCU reboot is coming in the near future why bother for one or at most two films ? Recasting is controversial so you go with something safer.
Origame
Origame - 6/29/2024, 7:18 AM
@JDL - dude, I've seen plenty of African Americans wanting a recast.

And the threat of review bombing is greatly exaggerated.
JDL
JDL - 6/29/2024, 6:17 PM
@Origame - > dude, I've seen plenty of African Americans wanting a recast.

Quite believable. However you don't seem to grasp the underlying facts.

1) Fewer people are going to see movies. Of those that do repeat viewings are down. Overall B.O. is down.

2) A sizable minority consider recasting the part as blatantly disrespectful to Chadwick Boseman. They will NOT shut up.

3) Movies are greenlit on what is foreseeable in the industry and certain basic assumptions. You assume for example it's decently acted, written, has reasonable vfx and an audience. You postulate a box office based on that and calculate production & promotion costs.

What's forseeable is more nebulous. Generally speaking it takes things into account such as theater attendance stats, trends in what kind of movies are doing well and which are not, etc., etc..

It is eminenty forseeable that the sizable minority mentioned above will not see the movie in a theater and will continue acting pissy about it. The risk of losing a quarter or more of your audience makes recasting at this point D.O.A. as too risky given the cost of making the movie.

>And the threat of review bombing is greatly exaggerated.
I disagree. ::shrug::

In any case it increases risk and the suits are risk adverse whether it's a reasonable fear or not.
Origame
Origame - 6/29/2024, 6:25 PM
@JDL - 1) and why is it? Could it be that companies like disney keep making unpopular decisions?

2) so you admit it's a minority. And it doesn't matter how loud they are. The majority that want the recast are also loud....and are the majority.

3) so you think the solution was to replace a popular superhero with a female version, even though marvel have been doing that and that's where the downward trend is coming from?
JDL
JDL - 6/30/2024, 1:10 AM
@Origame -
>1) and why is it? Could it be that companies like disney keep making unpopular decisions?

No. It's Covid and Streaming and increased prodcution costs.

>2) so you admit it's a minority. And it doesn't matter how loud they are. The majority
>that want the recast are also loud....and are the majority.

It is absolutely a minority. This isn't a matter of choosing the most popular. If the most popular won't make enough predictable profit to be worth making it doesn't get made and that's the case here.

>3) so you think the solution was to replace a popular superhero with a female version,
>even though marvel have been doing that and that's where the downward trend is coming
>from?

No. How they dealt with the content after deciding not to recast in WF is a different issue than whether to recast or not.

As far as the female version goes that was a swing, a miss, the bat came loose, flew into and hit a fan or two in the seats. Ugh.
Origame
Origame - 6/30/2024, 7:14 AM
@JDL - 1) covid is no longer a valid excuse. And streaming? Really? Streaming services are struggling too.

2) ...so then they should've just stopped making black panther movies by that logic. Not alienate the majority by going against what they want.

3) dude, they basically had to make it sharing because she's the only family member left and was black panther in the comics. What, you think mbaku would've been the right choice?
JDL
JDL - 6/30/2024, 2:27 PM
@Origame -
>1) covid is no longer a valid excuse. And streaming? Really? Streaming services are struggling too.

Covid made changes that either haven't gone away or have only partially recovered. Theater attendence is one of them. As for streaming the point is not so much the financial cost as it is that it substitutes for going to the theater for many. Whether or not a service is profitable doesn't matter right now. In the future, if a bunch go toes up, maybe.

There are trade-offs from staying home. No premium screens but no cesspool of germs. No crowd to share the experience with but cheaper homegrown concessions. No drive and parking. Pause button. No a-holes using their phones.
>2) ...so then they should've just stopped making black panther movies by that logic. Not alienate the >majority by going against what they want.

If they majority was going to be that turned off by not having a recast then yes, but it wasn't. They didn't recast and it did pretty good. That said with Chadwick it would have done better.

>3) dude, they basically had to make it sharing because she's the only family member left and was black >panther in the comics. What, you think mbaku would've been the right choice?

I would not have had any Blank Panther at all.
Origame
Origame - 6/30/2024, 4:51 PM
@JDL - look, dude. You lost the narrative if you're still using covid as an excuse. Ffs, no way home nearly broke 2 billion. And that was in 2021.
JDL
JDL - 7/2/2024, 12:58 AM
@Origame - While some covid behaviors were only changed for a rather short term, many others haven't changed back and may well never. Unless your film is 'special' or immune* it is still being affected by the covid changes. That means you plan for a smaller audience to begin with and don't piss off 25-30% of your audience by antagonizing them with what you produce. Does that clear things up for you ?

*horror for example
Origame
Origame - 7/2/2024, 7:39 AM
@JDL - that is complete bs. There are no covid restrictions in place that affect any business let alone the movie industry. That's entirely a thing of the past.

And sure, then just go p!ss off the other 75-70% of the audience. Sounds so much better 🙄
JDL
JDL - 7/2/2024, 7:39 PM
@Origame - Learn to read. I was CLEARLY talking about audience behavior, not rules or laws. The audience has changed what it will get out of the house to see. It may change back fully but it hasn't as of yet.

Reality Check, most of the audience isn't as invested in BP as you seem to be and they aren't all that pissed off. All but 2-3% never read a comic and have no emotional stake in the character.
Origame
Origame - 7/2/2024, 9:59 PM
@JDL - ...and I addressed that point. PEOPLE WILL GO SEE THE MOVIE IF ITS WORTH SEEING! Plenty of movies are doing great at the box office.

And yes they are. Hence why #recasttchalla was trending the day wakanda forever came out. But if they didn't care, then why not just recast? Why rewrite the whole story to make it about tchalla dying when no one cares?
JDL
JDL - 7/3/2024, 12:46 AM
@Origame - We've gotten to the point where we've identified the problem. we have different realities. Let's leave it at that.
Origame
Origame - 7/3/2024, 7:43 AM
@JDL - yes, I live in the reality where movies like no way home, top gun maverick, avatar 2, and inside out 2 all broke a billion post pandemic by just being movies people wanted to see.
JDL
JDL - 7/3/2024, 9:35 PM
@Origame - - They were the exception, not the rule. What you are over-looking is that what people want to see IN A THEATER has been changed by Covid and as yet that has not changed back to pre-covid behavior.
Origame
Origame - 7/3/2024, 9:44 PM
@JDL - they were the exception...because they were good movies.

And no, what people want to see in theaters hasn't changed. What changed is what studios THINK people want to see, such as identity politics.
JDL
JDL - 7/4/2024, 4:22 AM
@Origame - The dropouts I am referencing will see the movie on streaming or dvd but won't go to a theater to see. But as for your second point on identity politics I'll give you a maybe, at least as far as the US and Canada go. The rest of the world no.
Origame
Origame - 7/4/2024, 7:50 AM
@JDL - ...because it's not good enough to see in theaters.

There was streaming before covid dude. And movies in theaters did just fine.
JDL
JDL - 7/5/2024, 12:15 AM
@Origame - People changed. Get over it. The American public has done this before. Westerns were dominamt until suddenly they died. Physical like the 3 stooges used to be popular. It doesn't sell anymore. Soap Operas used to be all over TV. Now there's on a few left. Things change.

Even with some quality issues Quantumania and the Marvels would have done better before Covid. They wouldn't have been hits but they would have done better.
Origame
Origame - 7/5/2024, 7:29 AM
@JDL - dude, you can't compare the gradual decline of the western genre to the almost universal and instant disaster at Hollywood. Again, people will come if the movies worth seeing. The movies aren't worth seeing because they prioritize diversity over talent.
JDL
JDL - 7/6/2024, 2:33 AM
@Origame - The decline of the Western was pretty fast, I was there. Not as fast as this of course. The western was a change in taste, what happened with Covid was a different change. It was was rooted in fear, a fear that made some changes like the rage for home theaters, and others like a fear of theaters that has not fully receded. As for DEI issues what there is is limited to the US and the decline in movie attendence was not. DEI issues are not a root cause.

Real DEI issues are blatant, the movie preaches. I didn't see that for example in the Marvels. What I saw there was a really lame plot device, some horrid dialogue, and a weak villian.
Origame
Origame - 7/6/2024, 7:13 AM
@JDL - because companies like disney devoted themselves to DEI really fast.
JDL
JDL - 7/6/2024, 6:20 PM
@Origame - Could you give examples of DEI influenced Movies ?
Origame
Origame - 7/6/2024, 6:29 PM
@JDL - basically everything current day disney. The point is their employees are being hired for their diversity. And because that's the reason they're hired, the movies reflect this. Captain marvel as a franchise reflects this perfectly. Poorly made movies from under qualified people hired because of skin color or gender, not talent, making movies about why that thinking is actually a good thing.
JDL
JDL - 7/9/2024, 2:43 AM
@Origame - You can't substitute your beliefs for facts. You believe that whatever DEI polict Disney has is effecting their output. At this point I don't see you arguing that Disney is out right proselytizing so I'll just address the lesser sin which I would think is: DEI hires are fouling up the IP with incompetence. If that's your position you have failed to support it. Time to put up or shut up.
Origame
Origame - 7/9/2024, 5:54 AM
@JDL - it's a simple fact that focusing hiring on race, gender, and sexual orientation is taking the focus away from talent.

Hell, marvel is a perfect reflection of this. Phases 4 onward were advertised as the specific goal of making the mcu more diverse both in front of and behind the scenes. It's not a coincidence that this is when the mcu went all downhill.
JDL
JDL - 7/9/2024, 6:55 PM
@Origame - " it's a simple fact that focusing hiring on race, gender, and sexual orientation is taking the focus away from talent."

That's not a fact, it's a supposition. Come back when you have an actual fact. Oh and apologies if English is not your primary language.
Origame
Origame - 7/9/2024, 7:45 PM
@JDL - dude, there's an exact percentage of the number of minorities disney needs to hire in all positions (50% in fact). What happens when you're below that percentage and all of the qualified applicants are white men?

Oh, and we have literal testimony from one of the presidents at disney who admits to not hiring white men or mixed race people who don't look mixed race (in fact it's specifically mentioned they wanted to hire this person who was mixed but turned them down because they didn't look mixed).

It's an objective fact affirmative action and DEI hiring practices are a deeply flawed system that doesn't promote better working environments. Diversity should happen organically by hiring based on objective merit.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 6/28/2024, 7:14 AM
That makes sense. I mean why introduce T'Challa II otherwise.
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