EDITORIAL: 10 Things I Want To See In Captain America: The First Avenger!

EDITORIAL: 10 Things I Want To See In Captain America: The First Avenger!

Here are the top ten things that I want to see in the upcoming WWII epic directed by Joe Johnston that will bring the star spangled Avenger to the big screen...

Editorial Opinion
By JoshWilding - Jun 23, 2010 01:06 PM EST
Source: Josh Wilding

As much as I’m looking forward to seeing Asgard come to life in Thor, seeing Matthew Vaughn take on the X-Men, and getting to know Green Lantern, it’s The First Avenger which really has me excited for 2011! Seeing Captain America’s origin portrayed on the big screen along with all of the iconic moments that come along with it, surely points at its having the potential to be one of the best comic book movies ever! Add in a great cast that includes the likes of Chris Evans and Hugo Weaving and, in my opinion, you have a recipe for success! Below are the ten things that I most want to see in the upcoming movie which I think would help make it even better than it’s already shaping up to be. They’re not quite as obscure as some of my choices from my Avengers and Spider-Man lists but they’re all things that I know from countless discussions here on CBM that many of us would like to see. Hopefully, some of them you won't have thought of and as always, I look forward to hearing what you think!




10. Wolverine



Yes, I know it's unlikely (read: never gonna happen, lol!) but hear me out for a minute! There’s a multitude of ways that they could handle this sort of thing but here’s my take. Fox owns the rights to Wolverine, and as the character is such a huge money earner for them, I can't see their allowing Marvel Studios to get their hands on him any time soon. However, what’s to stop Hugh Jackman, in army fatigues, fighting alongside Captain America with a cigar in his mouth and a hairstyle pretty similar to that of Logan’s? All we’d need would be Chris Evans turning to him and saying, “Thanks Jim” and that would surely end up being one of the greatest moments in comic book movie history! As he’s never referred to as Wolverine, there’s literally nothing to stop Jackman taking a small cameo. After all, he’s expressed how much he cares about the character in the past, so why wouldn’t he take on a cameo such as this one? It's a sight that fans of both Cap and Wolverine would love to see! Plus, a future reference to “Jim” might explain that claw like scar Samuel L. Jackson’s Nick Fury is sporting under that eye patch of his!

9. HYDRA



Although it would be easy enough to introduce A.I.M, I’d be much happier seeing the far more iconic HYDRA! The First Avenger is the perfect opportunity for them to show the beginnings of the terrorist organization which was headed by Baron Wolfgang von Strucker, who was supported by the Red Skull. A young Strucker would leave the door open for an older version to return in the future. All the while HYDRA could very much serve as the main enemy of the newly formed S.H.I.E.L.D. This is a storyline which could then be fleshed out even more in future Marvel Studios movies.

8. Easter Eggs



After both of the Iron Man movies, this has pretty much become a must have for me in any Marvel Studios movie! Howard Stark is the obvious choice, especially as he’s apparently been cast in The First Avenger already (Dominic Cooper). I think there are plenty of other things they could include as a nod to us comic book readers! Wakanda is a perfect example especially as Cap’s shield is made of vibranium - the same element that many believe Tony Stark recreated in Iron Man 2. One example of what they could do is to use this opportunity to introduce the modern day Black Panther’s father, in costume, who gives Howard Stark the limited amount of vibranium he needs to create the shield. And of course, there are literally countless possibilities when it comes to showing the founding of S.H.I.E.L.D and exactly how much Stark and Fury were involved. Along with cameos of various WWII Marvel characters and villains, The First Avenger is the perfect opportunity for Marvel Studios to show viewers the origins of the movie universe. And there is of course one moment, I’m sure we’d all like to see recreated on the big screen: Captain America punching Adolf Hitler right in the face!

7. The Invaders



Yeah, this one is pretty much a given I know but I think Marvel Studios needs to be very careful when it comes to using the team in my opinion. Super powered characters like Namor and the Human Torch (Jim Hammond) could very easily end up taking the spotlight away from Chris Evans’ Captain America which would be a huge mistake. This movie has to establish the title character for when he’s both part of the Avengers and in future solo movies. Personally, I’d like to see The First Avenger focus on Captain America and Bucky along with Union Jack, Spitfire, and Nick Fury. Not what the fan boy in me would like to see, I must admit, but Namor and the Human Torch would just take far too long to introduce. I’d rather not see them at all, than see them handled poorly. If they can find a way to include them without rushing it and taking too much of the spotlight, that would be awesome. Until then I’d be happy enough with the two British characters whose powers are less show stealing along with Nick Fury who are all better suited to a realistic WWII surrounding and to non-comic book readers who might not be all that accepting of an android whose able to set himself on fire and fly!

6. Baron Zemo



Many times I’ve expressed my worries about their including too many characters in this movie. I think it would be a real shame not to include Baron Zemo in some way! I don’t think there would be any problem with making him a minor villain who works alongside the Red Skull. If the movie does indeed take place over a number of years, it would be easy enough for him and Captain America to clash in order to tell the story of his mask being glued to his face (during an altercation with Cap and a vat of “Adhesive X” in case you didn’t know!). This eventually causing his descent into insanity. And don’t forget, it was the Skull that sent Zemo to London to retrieve the experimental airplane that resulted in their landing in the English Channel and being frozen. They could either follow the classic storyline from the comic books, or do some variation of it--but Baron Zemo is a character they could very easily bring to the big screen!

5. Bad Ass Bucky



It’s a real pity that Marvel Studios wasn’t able to use Ed Brubaker as a consultant on The First Avenger (I think I read somewhere that he was too busy) They should use almost all of the updated and improved elements that he’s introduced since taking over writing duties circa 2004. As he had Captain America explain a few issues into his run:

“…while our advance scout cleared the way. Which is the real secret of what Bucky was. The official story said he was a symbol to counter the rise of the Hitler Youth, and there was some truth to that, but like all things in war, there was a darker truth underneath. Bucky did the things I couldn’t. I was the icon. I wore the flag…but while I gave speeches to troops in the trenches, he was doing what he’d been trained to do and he was highly trained.”

You may or may not remember that during that monologue, Bucky is shown to be sneaking behind enemy lines taking out the bad guys in a pretty brutal fashion armed only with a knife. This is the Bucky I want to see in the movie! Not a cheesy teenage sidekick who snaps off a few one-liners here and there. Put him and Cap in the brightly coloured costumes at some point, as has been rumoured. However, when they both head off to war, put him in more realistic outfit (along with the mask of course!). Let him kick Nazi ass as a believable soldier who does the things Captain America can't. Obviously, it would be a mistake to make him too “dark,” as that would pose a risk of alienating the audience. Especially in the event they plan on ever bringing him back as the Winter Soldier. All I want is to see a more realistic and interesting version and not a WWII version of a useless character like Robin. lol!

4. Master Man



A cheesy villain? Maybe. But I’d love to see this character make his way onto the big screen! Of course, I want to see Captain America and the Red Skull face off at some point. But seeing Cap along with The Invaders taking on the super powered Nazi would result in some really exciting action packed scenes as I think the panels I’ve posted above clearly demonstrate! Master Man was created by the Nazi version of the super-soldier program and so his involvement in this movie would be a great way of giving Cap an opponent to face who’s even more powerful than he is. Obviously we don’t know the structure of The First Avenger yet (whether it will be one adventure or take place over a number of years) but Master Man is the perfect candidate for a villain Captain America can face before finally facing the Red Skull!

3. Captain America…FOUND!



On the one hand, this is a scene that really belongs in The Avengers movie. On the other, it’s already been revealed that The First Avenger will feature modern day bookends so this is a moment that I would love to see! At this point, the team only consists of Tony Stark as a consultant. We have no idea what will happen by the end of Thor while it’s still unclear whether characters like Ant-Man, Wasp, and Hawkeye will be included on the roster. That makes me think we won't actually see the team formed until The Avengers movie after Cap’s found. This is why I think that it’ll be S.H.I.E.L.D who end up finding him in a similar style to Mark Millar’s The Ultimates. And in all honesty, I’m more than ok with that. After all, I can't think of a better way for the movie to end than with a scene similar to the image I’ve posted above or a close-up of Captain America’s eye opening and the screen immediately going to black and the credits rolling!

2. Cosmic Cube



There are two ways that they could handle the Cosmic Cube. Either it’s the main focus of why Captain America needs to stop the Red Skull or it’s mentioned only enough to set up its appearance in future movies. Personally, I’m hoping for the former. This may be a variation on the classic origins of the Cube, but if the two had to race to be the first ones to gain the Cube it could lead to a real sense of excitement and tension in the movie. Not only that, if the Red Skull eventually gets his hands on it, just imagine how epic a fight between him and Cap would be with those sort of stakes! As well as the fact that this would a great way to bring in A.I.M, the inclusion of the Cosmic Cube also opens the door for the cosmic side of the Marvel Universe in future movies. They could then include everyone from the Skrulls to Thanos. Finally, the Cube is also the perfect device to bring back the Red Skull in future Captain America movies. Only one film with the brilliant Hugo Weaving playing the Skull sure isn’t enough for me. So trapping him in the Cube to bring back later, seems like the perfect solution to that particular problem!

1. The Birth of The Winter Soldier!



Picture this: The credits roll and as is now standard with Marvel Studios’ movies, we get an after credits scene. The year is 1945 and we see a Russian submarine moving through the same icy waters that Captain America fell into. The sub comes across a body which they bring inside only to see it’s not Cap…it’s a one armed Bucky! The scene ends with the same lines (in Russian with subtitles) from Ed Brubaker’s Captain America #8 as they loom over his unconscious body:

“It’s not Captain America…What is this Karpov?”

“It is hope, my friend…for the future…”


And fade to black! If The First Avenger is going to have modern day bookends there really is no need to use this scene up with more hints at The Avengers. The scenario I’ve written above, as seen in the comic books, is the perfect way for them to leave the door open for the return of Bucky even if that wasn’t until much later in the franchise. Bucky has become such a popular character with fans, Marvel didn’t hesitate in keeping him as Captain America despite Steve Rogers’ return to the Marvel Universe. It makes perfect sense for them to adapt the Winter Soldier storyline. From a storytelling point of view, an adaptation of this arc would lead to some great moments on the big screen and it could easily be tweaked in order to make a live action translation easier to understand. And I’m not sure about you, but I’d love to see more than just one movie focusing on Cap’s WWII adventures - bringing back Bucky along with a handful of flashbacks would be the perfect opportunity!




So there you have it. The ten things that I most want to see in Captain America: The First Avenger! Please feel free to share your thoughts about my choices. Add your own in the usual place or use the below poll to vote for which of my 10 picks you’d like to see most! Thanks for reading!






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bleedthefreak
bleedthefreak - 6/23/2010, 2:08 PM
very good man especially like your idea for wolverine. seriously good work man
Destroyer14
Destroyer14 - 6/23/2010, 2:08 PM
Good article. I want the Red Skull to be a menacing villain.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/23/2010, 2:15 PM
I want to see one thing....

ARMIE HAMMER!!!

Joking lol, cool @ JOSH, but you know no way in hell are we gonna see WOLVERINE in it lol! ; P

Anyway, thumbs up buddy, tho dunno about the cosmic cube?

Anyways, if MARVEL has any brains, they'll spin off an INVADERS MOVIE from this!


lc
lc - 6/23/2010, 2:17 PM
love it josh and the wolverline :)
DaenerysTargaryen
DaenerysTargaryen - 6/23/2010, 2:21 PM
@lee
Armie hammer can play german soldier #5 who gets hid head cut off by Captain America's shield. *joking*
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/23/2010, 2:24 PM
STAR @ Cool idea! : P

Lc @ lol!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/23/2010, 2:26 PM
Hell no to that Fury in it tho @ JOSH lol! Ever!!!

We want a great CAP movie! : P
MassExecutions
MassExecutions - 6/23/2010, 2:26 PM
All good ideas, just to busy for one movie. I'd say Brubaker style bad@$$ bucky is the most important.
DCMarvelFreshman
DCMarvelFreshman - 6/23/2010, 2:29 PM
Very nice write up Josh. I agree with all this. Can't Fox sue Marvel for th Wolverine thing?

And I should let you know that the President of Marvel already confirmed HYDRA in the movie. It was at last year's Comic-Con over at CHUD.
number10
number10 - 6/23/2010, 2:35 PM
can anyone tell me how the [frick] he froze in the english channel???
number10
number10 - 6/23/2010, 2:35 PM
can anyone tell me how the [frick] he froze in the english channel???
TheGambitFreak
TheGambitFreak - 6/23/2010, 2:37 PM
I want to see wolverine cameo, Stan Lee as a soldier, or a Nazi.lol and Bad A** bucky lord knows we need a dark sidekick! Good work Josh@.
Reasonnnn
Reasonnnn - 6/23/2010, 2:37 PM
I love these editorials. Winter Soldier hands down is what I want to see as an after-credits scene. Do you have a "10 Things I Want to See In Thor"? IF not, DO IT! :)
Brashlight
Brashlight - 6/23/2010, 2:40 PM
Im not gonna lie just reading that bit on Winter Soldier gave me goose bumps!!!
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/23/2010, 2:42 PM
@ josh

you know whats really frustrating about them not being able to use Logan?? The fact that you can see the 3 claw marks on Fury's eye, from underneath his eyepatch. People familiar with the Ultimate universe might know that Wolverine is the one that took Fury's eye. (again, in the Ultimate universe).

its so frustrating that they hint at something like that, even though they'll never be able to explain it.
MassExecutions
MassExecutions - 6/23/2010, 2:43 PM
@number10 - I think he just hit the water in the english channel (or was it the atlantic? Wasn't that missle headed to america?) he froze after he drifted north, I'm gonna say.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 6/23/2010, 2:43 PM
Thanks for your comments guys! :) I appreciate the feedback!

LEE: Armie Hammer? Who the hell is that!? ;D Nah, I remember him from Reaper - still dont think he's right for Captain America though! An Invaders spin-off would be amazing but I doubt it will ever happen...I'd rather see them carry on the Cap movies in the present day! Why arent you too keen on the Cosmic Cube?

ANIL: All great points! I especially like your idea of Hank and Jan being part of the expedition that discovers Cap - that would fit in perfectly with Marvel Studios introducing them as S.H.I.E.L.D scientists!

DCMF: Thanks! :) I'm not sure how the technicalities of that would work actually...if Jackman was just credited as "Jim" or even not at all, I cant imagine that Fox could sue Marvel Studios over him playing a character with a slightly similar hairstyle to Wolverine. I honestly dont think it'll ever happen though..! Huh, I must have forgotten that about HYDRA - that's one thing ticked off my list then, lol!

Reasonnnn: Well, I was planning on doing X-Men: First Class next but I might actually do one based on Thor before they reveal a pile of info about the movie at Comic Con! Keep an eye out for it in the next week or two! :)

Brashlight: Lol, it gave me goosebumps just writing it!

CDB: I completely agree! If Nick Fury is going to be included in The First Avenger, I'm sure they'll find a way of explaining how he loses his eye but the fact it's such an obvious pointer to Wolverine to those of us familiar with the comic books is most definitely frustrating!
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/23/2010, 2:43 PM
@ number10

maybe i overlooked something in this article, but Cap was frozen in the arctic, not the English Channel.
FrankGarret
FrankGarret - 6/23/2010, 2:48 PM
While Jackman as a nameless grunt on Omaha Beach is cool and would work, it would still be pretty obvious it was Wolverine, obvious enough for a lawsuit maybe.

Even if wasn't, it would be enough to sour the relationship between Jackman and Fox, so he wouldn't do it anyway.
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 6/23/2010, 2:51 PM
Wolverine isn't going to happen (despite how awesome it would be) and HYDRA would be cool, I just hope they don't take up too much time. The main battle that is focused on in the movie should be the rivalry between Cap and Skull IMO.

I really would like to see Jim Hammond in there, though, and I could also do without Spitfire. Union Jack for sure, though. That guy needs to be in there. Master Man is unnecessary IMO.

I'd love to see all the rest, though I'm not entirely sure if they'll use the Cosmic Cube. It'd be sweet though.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/23/2010, 2:53 PM
@ frank garret

"While Jackman as a nameless grunt on Omaha Beach is cool and would work, it would still be pretty obvious it was Wolverine, obvious enough for a lawsuit maybe."

Thats exactly what i was thinking. if its recognizable for ANYONE to make the connection, then its a lawsuit waiting to happen.
saymekian
saymekian - 6/23/2010, 2:54 PM
There is no way Winter Soldier will be in the FIRST Cap movie.

They will find him in the present tense though. That pretty much HAS to happen.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/23/2010, 2:55 PM
@ tyler

i don't know man. speculation says that its either going to be the Cosmic Cube or the Skrulls that bring everything together in The Avengers.

And in my opinion, whichever it is, will have its origins in the Cap movie. I would personally be happy with either! I'd lean more toward the Cosmic Cube, though, just because of Red Skull's history with it in the comics.
conformist21
conformist21 - 6/23/2010, 2:57 PM
all i care for is a majestic namor.
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 6/23/2010, 2:59 PM
CDB: Well I'd hope it'd be the Cube as well. The Skrulls are better saved for Avengers 3 IMO.
StephenJ
StephenJ - 6/23/2010, 3:01 PM
Wolverine and Winter Soldier would be NICE!
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/23/2010, 3:02 PM
@ tyler

i don't know. i'd be happy either way. they could do the Skrulls in the first one if they showed that they were working with the Nazis in the Cap movie, then have them carry over into the Avengers movie, just like they did in the Ultimates comic.

but if they don't show them in WWII, then i agree, the Skrulls would be better off in a sequel.
MassExecutions
MassExecutions - 6/23/2010, 3:04 PM
The cube is pretty crazy. More so than even aliens. Bending all reality and what not. It takes a skilled writer to write a good cosmic cube story. It don't think they'll use it for awhile. Your tips on how to use it are good ones, though.
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 6/23/2010, 3:06 PM
CDB: I guess Skrulls would be cool, but they just work better when there's more build up to them IMO. And they're a huge threat, so they seem like a good way to finish off an epic trilogy like Avengers.

I did like the way they used them in the Ultimates (grotesque appearances aside), but it would be really dramatic if they built up the trust between everyone over the first couple movies, and then the shit hits the fan and some of them are Skrulls. Just IMO of course.
KeithM
KeithM - 6/23/2010, 3:12 PM
Excellent article Josh - really showing your Marvel credentials here. ;)

10. Wolverine - Yeah, not gonna happen :) Would be nice I agree, but even if they snuck a "Jim" in there, I'm betting Fox wouldn't let Jackman do it, regardless. Still, a hairy short-arse with a Canuck accent would do for me. :)

9. Yeah. Hydra > AIM

8. You think Tony invented Vibranium? I don't - they can get that from Wakanda - no need for him to 'invent' it. That kind of lessens Wakanda's importance too. However, Cap's shield is an adamantium-vibranium alloy if I'm not mistaken - so they need to discover/rediscover (assuming Stark Sr. got there first) adamantium or a suitable substitute.

Maybe they just won't call it adamantium. Starkium perhaps? :pooh: ;)

Otherwise it's going to be chock full of Easter Eggs just by the fact that it's laying the groundwork for the future (e.g. the birth of SHIELD perhaps) and will be showing us glimpses of the history of the MU as it will become.

Going back to your Wolverine cameo - it would have been nice if they could have referred to mutants in concentration camps or something (a good way to introduce any super-powered heroes/villains).

7. I agree 100% with your reasoning, but...

NAMOR AND TORCH WERE IN THE INVADERS DAMMIT!!! I WANNA SEE THE PROPER INVADERS!!!!

Ok - deep breathe. Whooooh. It's ok, I'm fine now.

I can live with your suggestions if I must. :)

Edit: However, I think putting him with super-powered characters gives them the opportunity to show how he becomes the leader he becomes - they may overshadow him at first - he may feel overshadowed - but then comes through to be the Real Cap we know and love - the First Avenger - the obvious choice to lead such a team in the future...

6. Zemo - yes, but only if they movie up his costume. Purple Santa isn't scary at all.

5. [frick] yes. Just like you said. And don't pussy out because they're scared he might become less likeable at all. Bad ass Bucky is absolutely needed to avoid any and all possible Robin the gay blunder comparisons.

4. Master Man - An obvious - and good - choice for the main physical opponent for Cap - quite probably one of the Skull's projects for the Reich, quite probably his "trump card" should Cap ever get close to him, will probably be built up throughout the film - showing how bad-ass MM is - and Cap will probably take him down without breaking a sweat (think Mace Windu v Jango Fett).

3. Defrost - Oh, in the Cap movie definitely. The Avengers needs to hit the ground running. The less time needed to introduce these guys the better. The defrosting should definitely be the denouement to the Cap movie (and even beyond just waking up - I'd like to see a bit of the man-out-of-time reaction before we get to the Avengers - just a taste, but enough so he isn't spending half the Avengers movie going "what's that, what's this, how do they do that?" kinda thing).

2. I agree - this could/should be the macguffin that makes everything such a big deal rather than just costumed soldiers fighting for propaganda purposes (however valiantly and important that is).

Both sides have super-soldiers - there needs to be something which could "tip the balance" - the Cosmic Cube fits the bill perfectly.

1. Yes, I like your suggestion muchly - but I don't think they'll do it.

I think they'll leave it vague - Cap might ask "where's Bucky? Did you find Bucky too?" when he wakes up - and Fury could say "we never found his body" type of thing. Leave it open, leave it mysterious. Leave them options (they've said they want to surprise us fans too - so even if we THINK we know what's going on, they like to tease us with "oh do you now?" :)

Very sound ideas Josh - and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see many of them in the final movie. :thup:


JonSolo
JonSolo - 6/23/2010, 3:13 PM
Outstanding Article!
The wolvie thing would be amazing even if it was just a Logan looking guy in the background with a cigar.
And the winter soldier would be great. Got goosebumps reading your set up. Although I think it would take away from the story they are trying to advance. I think a more realistic way they may end it is a sub with sam l jackson and that they find something and leave it to the avengers movie to expand on what they discover.
Great stuff man!
UltimateGuardian
UltimateGuardian - 6/23/2010, 3:16 PM
GREAT ARTICLE

i also want to see a cameo from hugh jackman but i think that two lined dialogue you had for the winter soldier is worthy of being in a film!
LandGrizzle
LandGrizzle - 6/23/2010, 3:31 PM
I gotta say that I have a different way of incorporating Wolverine into this movie.

As we all know, Steve Rogers is a little 90 lb weakling, well how about as Steve gets denied entry into the military, he is walking out of the recruiting office and he bumps into a man that pretty much knocks him to the ground. Then pan to Steve Rogers on the ground and then you hear a "Out of the way Bub!" and a used cigar thrown at him while you see a man from the backside walking away.

No names would have to be mentioned, and no actual physical features would be seen to imply that it was Wolverine so that Marvel wouldn't have a lawsuit on their hands, but in reality, us Fans would know exactly what happen since it would be a silent easter egg in the movie.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 6/23/2010, 3:34 PM
Thanks again for your comments and compliments guys! Keep 'em coming, lol! :P

CDB: In the original storyline, Cap did fall into the English Channel but I think they might have ret conned that since then...I'm not sure actually! Although I know The Ultimates had it as the arctic which makes a lot more sense when you think about it!

Frank Garret: Yeah, it'll never happen unfortunately! ;( I'll just take my glasses off at one point and pretend that one of the soldiers in Logan just to keep the fan boy inside of me happy, lol! ;)

MassExecutions: You make a good point - it could potentially be very difficult for them to include a device as wacky as that in a movie based during WWII! The right writers could pull it off though I think!

TYLER: I agree, a storyline like the Skrulls is the perfect way to finish off what's sure to be an epic trilogy! (although I'm still not sure whether Marvel Studios own the rights to them as they did first appear alongside the FF which makes me doubt that rumour...) I think that the idea of Agent Coulson being a Skrull as I suggested in my top ten list for The Avengers would work really well especially as Thor is set to make him an even bigger character in the movie universe.

KeithM: Thanks for the detailed feedback bud! J Much appreciated as always! Right, now I’ll address some of your points…I personally never thought it was Vibranium that Tony created but I know it’s a popular theory online and making it a formula that is a part of the shield would help link The First Avenger to Iron Man 2. However, that is far from essential and I agree with your point about it undermining the nations importance so I’d be more than ok with that being left out. Great ideas about Wolverine/mutants as well although I honestly don’t think Marvel Studios will even bother going there due to the legal complications which would surely result from that..! Hey, I’d most definitely love to see the Human Torch and Namor - as I’ve said above, if they can do it properly without it taking the spotlight away from Cap then I’m all for it! As for the rest of your points, there’s not a lot I can add as I completely agree! I like your idea about Bucky though…I suppose a scene like the one I’ve described would almost force them to pick up from there in the next Cap movie which might not be the best idea. Anyway, I’m glad you like the list - thanks again! I’m crossing my fingers for just a few of these things to turn up in the movie!

JonSolo: Reading that scene by Brubaker gave me chills at the time but actually writing it out and picturing it in my head had me heart thumping outta my chest, lol! But yeah, a little mystery in the style that you and KeithM suggest could work a little better in the respect that it doesnt force them to do the Winter Soldier storyline right away.

LandGrizzle: Dude, that is GENIUS!!! I love that idea! I honestly think I'd probably have a nerdgasm just seeing a scene like that, lol! Subtle, but a big enough hint that those of us who read the comic books would easily pick it up...I love it! :D
flames809
flames809 - 6/23/2010, 3:40 PM
since they doing the invaders is better that they don't use human torch it would get none comic-book fans confuse with the other human torch in the fantastic four movie.
JonSolo
JonSolo - 6/23/2010, 3:52 PM
HELP PLEASE
@joshW
@or anybody- Ive read about the winter soldier storyline and know the jist of it but have been meaning to get into actually reading it.
Is there a compiled issues book I could grab that has all of that storyline?
r0r5ch4ch84
r0r5ch4ch84 - 6/23/2010, 3:53 PM
They should go back and re-design the frikken' Cap America suit, that's what they should do.
comicb00kguy
comicb00kguy - 6/23/2010, 4:01 PM
Interesting list, to say the least. Hope Keith doesn't mind me following a similar format.
Let's try to break this thing down:
10) Wolverine: As much as I dislike the overuse of Wolverine, this COULD actually be cool if it was done right (and found a way around Fox's vigilant lawyers). I really doubt it happens though.
9) Now, I would rather see HYDRA than AIM, but I think AIM is what we're going to get this time around. Still, we could at least have one of your "easter eggs" be to see the beginnings of HYDRA, setting them up as major adversaries for the sequel.
8) Certainly, it adds to any good superhero movie to see little stuff in the background that rewards you for paying attention. It would be cool to see Howard Stark involved with creating the shield (how about we just call it a unique alloy of some rare and exotic metals to avoid the whole vibranium/adamantium thing altogether?). And you definitely get cool points for the Cap punching Hitler reference. I'd love to see that!
7) I'm with Keith. All of the Invaders or none! We don't need to get all caught up in their backstory. Take five seconds to explain who Namor is, and that the Human Torch is a robot that can turn to flame. This is a comic book movie, a little suspension of disbelief isn't too much to ask for.
6) I was hoping you'd have Zemo on there. He's one of my favorite Cap villains. He doesn't need a big part in this, necessarily, but let's PLEASE see him used for his all-important role in Cap's WW2 story: where Zemo sends up the bomb that winds up "killing" Bucky (more on THAT later) and blowing Cap up over the Arctic, where he can be frozen in ice. NOBODY else should be given this vital part in Cap's origin.
5) Bucky was a more than capable partner for Cap, a skilled fighter and an excellent marksman in his own right. It was his fighting prowess that inspired Cap to make Bucky his partner. I disagree on one thing though: I want to see both of them in their classic costumes, the way God aka Kirby intended both characters to look. These characters came out during the war, and I'd rather see my Cap looking as he did during the real war, not a revisionist story drawn far later by someone whose parents likely weren't even alive at that time.
4) Master Man is another interesting call, and I certainly agree, I'd really like to see him going toe-to-toe with Cap to showcase our hero's fighting skills- that he can do a lot more than throw a shield around.
3) This scene could well appear near the end of the Cap movie, as opposed to in the Avengers. Better to have this taken care of now. I prefer the classic origin, but can compromise that far with the ultimate version as to let SHIELD find him and thaw him out. This could also introduce Hank Pym, at least in a cameo capacity. I LIKE your idea of ending the scene with a thawing Cap opening his eye. PERFECT way to send the audience home, ready to come back in a few months for the Avengers.
2) Would it be a proper Cap film WITHOUT the Cosmic Cube around to stir up mischief?
1) They probably won't do this, but it would be freakin' sweet.
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