@ObserverIO - we all know why it made that much money and it has nothing to do with the actual quality of it, the second movie gives a more accurate representation of how people feel about this character

@Kurban - But . . . it made a billion dollars. This movie was not doomed in the slightest.

@ClintThaHamster - In before someone says its due to the movie coming out before Endgame, like Antman 2 didn't also

@Urubrodi - people love the character, which is why the first film did well - but they saw the film and were like...yeah nah ill pass on anymore of this, plus brie's comments about the fans basically said no worries dont watch the second one again.

@ClintThaHamster - can’t say I’m surprised lol

@Gizmoduck - I loved Carol as Ms Marvel but the Captain Marvel run was horrible and unpopular, so not a good choice to use that iteration.

@Gizmoduck - "plus brie's comments about the fans basically said no worries dont watch the second one again."

LOL have another epic day in delusional fantasy land, triggered incel

@Urubrodi - Thor Love and Thunder made nearly 800 million, so is that an objectively great movie? Or (just like Guardians 3) is that a case of a movie that had the advantage of being part of the early/pop-culture phenomenon era of the MCU which gave it a massive built-in advantage over a franchise like The Marvels who had none of that.

Ant Man 2 made over 600 million, do you genuinely believe if that exact same movie released tomorrow it would make even half that? Because it factually wouldn't.

Every MCU movie's box-office is a direct result of *when* it was released/what the state of the world was at that time. Hence my point that it's bullsh!t nonsense hypocrite cherry-picking to say "Captain Marvel made a billion but that means nothing, The Marvels underperformed which is PROOF it's objectively bad!"

Either Captain Marvel is an objectively massively successful/great movie and The Marvels is an objectively failed/terrible movie.......OR..........Captain Marvel's high box office was helped by Endgame and The Marvels' low box-office was hindered by the current state of the economy/movie theaters rising prices causing countless people to wait for streaming instead/casual viewers waining interest in superhero movies in general.

Take your pick.

@MisterDoctor217 - Why HERo?

@MisterDoctor217 - Oh, wow, missed that entirely. Yeah, that's stupid.

@Razorface1 - Deus Ex you philistine.

@Matchesz - Make sense, moron troll

@MarvelZombie616 - its not her, its the writing.. as the Russos showed.

@MarvelZombie616 - what was tolerable in Endgame and otherwise absent elsewhere?