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bobevanz - 11/14/2023, 1:22 PM
It's amazing this troll still has a job. Also using RT for reviews is like asking a crack head how to make a Beef Wellington
bobevanz - 11/14/2023, 1:23 PM
When all it takes is a 50% rating marked fresh... that's it. Why tf do you still use it here? It's a cheat code to let shitty movies get a pass
mountainman - 11/14/2023, 1:28 PM
@bobevanz - Metacritic is a far better way to curate critic reviews. A movie being fresh just means that at least 60% of reviewers that it was at least ok.
CyberBishop - 11/14/2023, 3:26 PM
@bobevanz - Best comment here about the troll shill!!!
bobevanz - 11/14/2023, 1:25 PM
FireandBlood - 11/14/2023, 1:26 PM
Ant-Man 3 right there at the bottom like it deserves to be. Piece of shit movie
mountainman - 11/14/2023, 1:28 PM
@FireandBlood - I thought Love and Thunder was worse. But it is interesting that so many Phase 4/5 movies are near the bottom of the list.
FireandBlood - 11/14/2023, 1:33 PM
@mountainman - Phase 4 weren’t so bad. Very experiment with quite a few projects that didn’t land the way they should’ve, but a few movies that hit differently. Phase 5 though, that’s DCEU territory. 2/4 are straight duds, even worse than shit DC released this year. That speaks volumes.
ChocolateMousse - 11/14/2023, 1:38 PM
@mountainman - no coincidence
mountainman - 11/14/2023, 1:48 PM
@FireandBlood - I don’t see much difference. There have only been 3 Phase 5 movies. 2 have been bad (haven’t seen the Marvels so I’m just going based on reviews and consensus). and 1 was great (GOTG3). Possible that Deadpool 3 could also be great, but too early to tell.

Phase 4 only had 1 great movie (Spider-man), 2 good ones (Shang Chi and Black Panther 2) and the rest were ok to bad.

Ratio is against phase 5 right now but the mediocrity started in Phase 4.
BlackSpider - 11/14/2023, 1:54 PM
@mountainman - Phase 5 is really a cop out imo. We all know they really are phase 4 movies, and feige just changed them to phase 5 for some reason.
mountainman - 11/14/2023, 1:58 PM
@Tigerman33 - Oh I get that. It’s an arbitrary distinction without Avengers or event film to separate them. I think it’s best to look at the projects individually vs by phases anyway.
BlackSpider - 11/14/2023, 2:03 PM
@mountainman - Yeah, if anything antman quantamania should have been the event film, or guardians 3. Yet they werent for some reason.
mountainman - 11/14/2023, 2:10 PM
@Tigerman33 - The problem is that the new characters introduced since Endgame don’t really all fit together as of yet. If they would have been building to a New Avengers, Young Avengers or something like that, it could have worked, but the way these projects were made, the characters weren’t meant to coalesce until Kang Dynasty. They just didn’t master plan the whole saga well enough.
BlackSpider - 11/14/2023, 2:15 PM
@mountainman - Yeah hot take, they should have done young avengers, or should do it. Young avengers has a great storyline with kang and his variant. You have the cast and they arent getting younger. Plus it lets the actual avengers breath.
BlackSpider - 11/14/2023, 2:21 PM
@mountainman - To be honest im kinda surprised they didint have the kang storyline for young avengers. I mean.....it sets him up as a villain, gets the variant idea perfectly, he basically wreaks the young avengers and makes him a threat, he also kills a beloved hero, and now all the characters have a deep connection with him (explained in the comic)

Seems pretty perfect, yet they just didin't do it. Its baffling, and would have been better opener than ant man.
mountainman - 11/14/2023, 2:23 PM
@Tigerman33 - Since they wanted to give the mainline Avengers a break, they could have built up Young and West Coast Avengers at the same time.

West Coast:

- Black Panther established the Wakandan Embassy in Oakland, CA. Boseman dying made it challenging, but Shuri could have taken his place.
- Ant Man is in San Fransisco
- Shang Chi was in San Fransisco
- Add in one legacy Avenger like Hawkeye (Renner’s injury could have derailed this)
- They wanted to introduce Wonder Man

Easy to build up and the pieces were there.

I agree that Young Avengers is being built, but I almost think that should have been the Phase capper for D+ rather than big screen.
mountainman - 11/14/2023, 2:24 PM
@mountainman - They could have been a more street level team to balance out the main Avengers that battle world ending threats.
BlackSpider - 11/14/2023, 2:26 PM
@mountainman - My main worry about doing young avengers is that they are gonna have age problems. Spoiler for marvels, kate bishop says she is 22 in resposne to Miss marvel. Which was kinda cute, but yeah basically at one point are they really young avengers. Feige should have done this quickly after hawkeye and captain marvel.

Another issue is none of the boys are set up. Wiccan is like....dead and too young. Patriot just isnt set up at all and might as well be a random dude, and hulking could have been set up in secret invasion.

They could still do it, but they need to hurry up. And im okay with it being on disney plus, and hopefully its done well.
BlackSpider - 11/14/2023, 2:27 PM
@mountainman - But yes I agree with west coast. I think I agree maybe make it mostly street level, and maybe even a series, and its more comedy oriented like hawkeye show.
mountainman - 11/14/2023, 2:31 PM
@Tigerman33 - Maybe West Coast would have to be a show, but that doesn’t resolve the issue with no phase capping event movie.

Maybe if Captain Marvel 2 had been the Kree/Skrull War instead or maybe Michael Korvac, she would have needed help from the other Phase 4/5 heroes and that could have been it. Or had Quantumania been the true Kang the Conquerer showcase, his movie could have involved the other main heroes.

People have short attention spans and need the big event movie every 3 years or so. Heck even Cap 4 could have been it had they planned it that way.
BlackSpider - 11/14/2023, 2:38 PM
@mountainman - Yes all good ideas. Even something like dr strange would have been fine, as it caps off the wanda storyline set up. Bp2 while good, doesent really cap anything off.
mountainman - 11/14/2023, 2:50 PM
@Tigerman33 - Black Panther is mostly a standalone series and that’s fine. Especially with Boseman’s passing, there was no way that would have been a team up movie.
garu - 11/14/2023, 1:27 PM
Rotten Tomatoes scores
Doomsday8888 - 11/14/2023, 1:28 PM
Over the years, critics helped a lot in giving MS delusions of grandeur but RT is just a tool and one few know how to properly use, so...
ChocolateMousse - 11/14/2023, 1:29 PM
BP number one. Yeah that's genuine
X75 - 11/14/2023, 1:30 PM
Black Panther is highly overrated. It’s good but not the best MCU movie.
Nomis929 - 11/14/2023, 1:34 PM
Ranking Every MCU Movie According To Nomis...

FRESH

Iron Man
Black Panther
All the Captain America Movies (possibly their best series)
All the Avengers Movies (Yes, including 'Age of Ultron')
All the Spiderman Movies

Not so fresh (Not Bad, Not good):

Iron Man2
Wakanda Forever
Thor
Thor: the Dark World
Both Doc Strange Movies

Rotten

Thor: Ragnarok
Thor: Love and Thunder
Black Widow
Both Captain Marvels movies
ALL Antman movies

And of Course...ALL the GOTG movies!
hainesy - 11/14/2023, 1:38 PM
I get this is based on reviews on a website, but Ant Man & the Wasp wasn't better than Infinity War or the two GOTG sequels.
SonOfAGif - 11/14/2023, 1:40 PM
Every feels the MCU is falling will somehow look the other way the moment Loki opens up Multiversal doorways for every Marvel hero to walk through to battle The Beyonder, Doom, or Kang Prime and their army.
FireandBlood - 11/14/2023, 2:07 PM
@SonOfAGif - Ngl that sounds mad 🥺
Steel86 - 11/14/2023, 1:46 PM
Omg, do we really need this every time my peeps? Come on.
ChocolateMousse - 11/14/2023, 1:53 PM
@Steel86 - you must be new here lol
blackiron777 - 11/14/2023, 1:46 PM
Lol so you mean we wont be getting 50 articles reminding us that The Marvels flopped like we got for the Flash. I knew this site was a little bias but damn. Instead we get The Marvels deserved to rank higher because of good actors and a post credit scene.

I kinda see why the MCU thought throwing out mediocre product in phase 4 was good enough.
BiggieMac4Sauce - 11/14/2023, 1:48 PM
BP doing the heavy lifting for the MCU. as expected 💪🏾
ChocolateMousse - 11/14/2023, 1:52 PM
@BiggieMac4Sauce - it's expected but not for the reason you believe
ChocolateMousse - 11/14/2023, 2:38 PM
@BiggieMac4Sauce - pretty much everyone would disagree with you. I hope I'm not making you feel threatened. Are you ok my child
AvalonX - 11/14/2023, 1:50 PM
You can't use RT for anything because the access media is paid off. We know that. You can't go by the audience score because of the bots. This is detailed in many YT videos of the account on the Marvels being new accounts that haven't reviewed anything before.

"Simply put, this sequel deserves to rank higher. The villain sucks and it admittedly needed to be a little more epic, but with three terrific leads in Brie Larson, Teyonah Parris, and Iman Vellani, there is fun to be had here. A jaw-dropping post-credits scene and solid humour combine with smartly choreographed action to result in a blockbuster that's better than at least the next four movies..."

No @JoshWilding it doesn't. You just listed the reasons why. 3 terrific leads? Come one man. Brie mails it in here but admittedly, she has nothing to work with. The plot is nonsensical, the writing is amateurish, the Directing is awful. Even there plot holes have plot holes. You can make an argument that the person who actually does the most damage is Carol (offscreen). The character switching only happens when the plot needs it to and just serves as a handicap for an OP character that they don't know what to do with. The plot only serves to give a card board cut out villain a purpose when Carol could have solved the problem herself all along.

It's so lazy and stupid its unbelievable. You can't call out an post credit season as a reason to raise the score of a movie review... Even then, it wasn't that good (either of them)

***SPOILER***
Even Monica gets Mary Sue'd. At one point, she can't even fly but by the end of the movie she can seal a breach in time space lol. And of course, it can only be done from the Beast universe because of made up science (well, no but they really wanted that post credit scene and needed a way to strand her there)
Forthas - 11/14/2023, 2:01 PM
I think the audience score is far more telling and i tend to rank it by that with the exception of Black Panther which was review bombed by the right wing nuts.
ChocolateMousse - 11/14/2023, 2:07 PM
@Forthas - where was BP review bombed?
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