COMICS: Richard Starkings The Letterer of Alan Moore's THE KILLING JOKE Explains The Conclusion To That Legendary Story

COMICS: Richard Starkings The Letterer of Alan Moore's  THE KILLING JOKE  Explains The Conclusion To That Legendary Story

In response to Grant Morrison's interpretation of the conclusion to Alan Moore's THE KILLING JOKE Richard Starkings The Letterer of that amazing story explains what really happened at the end.

By BigTandAs4599 - Aug 16, 2013 08:08 PM EST
Filed Under: DC Comics
Source: CosmicBookNews







Earlier today Grant Morrison shared his interpretation of the conclusion to Alan Moore's THE KILLING JOKE in a podcast with Kevin Smith saying

"That’s what I love about it, is that nobody’s noticed–how many, thirty years ago it was? Batman kills the Joker. That’s why it’s called The Killing Joke. The Joker tells "the killing joke” at the end, Batman reaches out and breaks his neck and that’s why the laughter stops and the light goes out at the end, is because that was their last chance at crossing that bridge. And Alan wrote the ultimate Batman/Joker story–he finished it!"

In response to that the letterer of The Killing Joke, Richard Starkings, explains via Facebook the ending of that legendary story.

"No. They are laughing. Batman is laughing so hard he leans on the Joker for support. The End Brian described it to me that way when this craziness first came up In 1986"
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SnapperCarr
SnapperCarr - 8/16/2013, 8:53 PM
I'm still cautiously optimistic about Morrison's Wonder Woman Earth One project.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 8/16/2013, 9:58 PM
Still I mean the way Grant sees it is very good.

He's a douche but it's still a great view that has never been seen before and does fit.
JatevinM
JatevinM - 8/16/2013, 10:10 PM
If he is leaving on him for support then why does the laughing end?
jambabeanjuice
jambabeanjuice - 8/16/2013, 10:10 PM
Glad to know that this tells us that Bats didn't kill The Joker. I'm not sure but I think there's been a history between Grant Morrison v.s. Alan Moore. Morrison is just trying to be Moore but only half as good as Alan or not even close to being an Alan Moore in the industry.
GetsugaTensho22
GetsugaTensho22 - 8/16/2013, 10:27 PM
Just goes to show how full of himself Grant Morrison is. I mean, it's fairly obvious what happened, but NO, everybody else has to be stupid and he has to be the only to magically "figure out" that Batman supposedly "killed" Joker.
LOL [frick] off Grant, and stay off your drugs.
sameoldthing
sameoldthing - 8/16/2013, 10:42 PM
The ending of story is up for interpretation. Simple as that.

Why do many bash Grant Morrison,Mark Millar,Brian Bendis & other comic writers who have done a lot of good work.

More good than bad. You can disagree with these writers but be more respectful.
Unless its criticism of Rob Liefeld..that creep is a plague to comics,bash him silly.
oldnoname
oldnoname - 8/16/2013, 11:40 PM
^^^agreed. On everything
TerminalVoyd
TerminalVoyd - 8/17/2013, 12:40 AM
I'm willing to go with Starkings provided that this is what Brian Bolland told him. If you've ever read an Alan Moore script, beyond the incredibly verbose wall of text style, he's also meticulous in his details. He'll write what he wants on the page and why it's there and the reasoning behind it (in pain staking detail) so that the artist he's working with understands the what and the why of the imagery they're composing.

In short, if that's what Moore described to Bolland in the script and that's what Bolland communicated to Starkings, then that's what physically happened. Thing is, that's not the interpretive part anyway. The question is what the Hell does that mean?

The Joker is the only enemy of Batman's where the regret over all the lives that have been taken, all the pain that's been caused may well be capable of overwhelming his compunctions about cold blooded murder or any compassion or pity for the insane he might have. That's what makes the ending bizarre, particularly in light of how badly The Joker wounded Batman through the people he loves in this story.

Is this Batman gone off the deep end with Joker there to finally see it? Has he been on the verge all along? Or did the two finally find a brief moment where they reached a temporary understanding (staving off the inevitable talked about in the beginning for awhile longer)? Or was Batman just so utterly wracked with exhaustion that a simple, almost innocuous moment and how absurd it was that it was happening with the guy who just crippled a dear friend and kidnapped another one finally overwhelm him just enough to drop the mask for a second.

Or is Batman really so supremely sane and at home with who and what he is in comparison to The Joker that him being human for that one moment is the Batman equivalent of going off the deep end, if only just a little? No doubt it's a bizarre ending, and the implications are equally as bizarre, but despite early Moore's desire for TKJ to be out of continuity (with lots of hints as to that in the comic itself), it ultimately was in continuity. Whatever the Hell that ending means, The Joker's death doesn't seem to enter into it one way or the other.

loki668
loki668 - 8/17/2013, 4:06 AM
Maybe they quit laughing when Batman leaned on the Joker because the "porn music" started up. BOW CHICKA WOW WOW!! They probably had a "moment" that ended up with grease paint in some pretty strange places.
Odin
Odin - 8/17/2013, 6:38 AM
Batman killing Joker at the end doesn't make much sense. He first holds his anger in order to arrest Joker by rules, like Gordon wanted. And then what:

Batman: Okay, you are now arrested. I did by the book, Gordon and I proved your theory of madnes wrong and I even didn't beat you up when gave me chance. We won; you lost.

Joker:Peg-leg-joke!

Batman: Hahaa, that does it; you're dead.
SNAP


I realize that Batman laughs not for only the joke, but because he realize that all his effort, that story has been about, was for nothing. Joker, in his insanity, has been beyond redemption the whole time.
Phlegmbot
Phlegmbot - 8/17/2013, 12:36 PM
Odin is 100% correct.

I just went back and looked.

There's some foreshadowing that implies Batman WON'T do it "by the book," but then he even offers to rehabilitate him, tells him we're "on a suicide course."

The laugh is about the realization that there is no end. The door closing, the light going out, it brings up back to the BEGINNING, not an ending. The first panel and last panel are the same.

Phlegmbot
Phlegmbot - 8/17/2013, 12:36 PM
up = us
dezdigi
dezdigi - 8/18/2013, 11:44 AM
Morrison is a drama queen.
batfan175
batfan175 - 8/18/2013, 11:53 AM
Actually Grant's interpretation makes sense and it has more gravitas, considering what the story is about and what the relationship between the to characters is. I choose to accept Grant's version, it definitely has more depth and since it's up to interpretation anyway, there is no "right" or wrong ending.
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