RUMOR: DC Comics Launching "Absolute Comics" Reboot From Scott Snyder; Compared To Marvel's Ultimate Line

RUMOR: DC Comics Launching "Absolute Comics" Reboot From Scott Snyder; Compared To Marvel's Ultimate Line

DC Comics is rumoured to be launching an "Absolute Comics" line which has been likened to Marvel's Ultimate Universe, and the whole thing is set to be spearheaded by longtime Batman scribe Scott Snyder...

By JoshWilding - Apr 15, 2024 10:04 AM EST
Filed Under: DC Comics
Source: Bleeding Cool

There have been rumblings for a while now that DC Comics is planning another reboot. Over the years, the publisher has overhauled the DC Universe on several occasions, all in a bid to drum up interest and increase sales. 

Today, Bleeding Cool has shared additional information on the initiative being spearheaded by longtime Batman writer Scott Snyder. However, this will be a separate line from the main DC Comics continuity which is similar, but not identical, to Marvel Comics Ultimate Universe.

That started as a way of retelling the origin stories of characters like Spider-Man and the X-Men in a reality more like our own and without decades of baggage and hard-to-follow continuity. Recently, it's been relaunched again, this time in a world that, for years, had no superheroes (meaning Peter Parker has become Spider-Man in his 30s). 

According to the site, DC's version will be called Absolute Comics (though it's also being referred to as "All-In"). 

Here's how they explain it:

"Bleeding Cool understands, however, rather than some single central creator-focused line, or something with a major editorial driver such as Dan DiDio's New 52 or Geoff Johns' DC Rebirth, this is intended to be more of a hands-off affair on Snyder's part, with the creators being given more of a carte blanche to achieve results, closer to the All-Star line, with major A-list creators on board."

Also rather than something separated from the main line like All-Star, the Ultimate Universe, or even Jim Shooter's New Universe back in the day, this will be something published in conjunction with the main line, part of a larger initiative that aims to spotlight DC's entire lineup. But there will not be a reboot or even a relaunch of the main line, that will remain intact and continuity (along with many creative teams) will continue on."

"This is most definitely being seen as an attempt to do New 52 right, alongside a DC Rebirth with a more holistic approach. That the team on DC All-In are aiming to give fans something bold while leaving alone what's already working. And I expect to hear more, a lot more, at San Diego Comic-Con this year."

It appears the idea is for Mark Waid's upcoming Absolute Power event to set the stage for this over the summer, with the line both new-reader friendly and something longtime fans - who aren't caught up or prefer a more classic interpretation of these characters - can also appreciate. 

Again, details are scarce right now, but this may, for example, mean we'll get a Superman who isn't a father. That would bring the Man of Steel more in line with what we'll see in James Gunn's SUPERMAN next year...

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Conquistador
Conquistador - 4/15/2024, 10:47 AM
Remember when they tried this will the All Star Line..



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At Least superman was good.
dracula
dracula - 4/15/2024, 10:48 AM
@UniqNo - also tried that with Earth One

At least that one has released a decent amount of stuff

Problem there is the massive gaps between releases
Conquistador
Conquistador - 4/15/2024, 10:52 AM
@dracula - Earth one was more of a full novel at a time, and were years apart in releases, which was better imo. I only read the first superman one though.

It's crazy how comics influence the movies then then go on to influence the comics. I bet whatever comes is going to be trying to replicate what DC studios start cooking up.
Origame
Origame - 4/15/2024, 11:32 AM
@UniqNo - all star wasn't really a shared universe though. All star superman was an end to basically the comics superman. And all star batman and Robin was written to be part of the dark knight returns universe. And it's not like there were other all star comics.
Conquistador
Conquistador - 4/15/2024, 11:48 AM
@Origame - You're right it wasn't shared, but from what i recall, there were plans to continue with the superman line with some other stories loosely based in the same continuity.

I'm sure All star Batman would have continued had the response not been so overwhelmingly negative though and lead into the other Millar stories.

I like some of the original ideas though.

I think they should set a new label/imprint where these heroes have their stories told over the next 5 to 10 years but to actually have a beginning middle and an end. Business wise they won't be able to play the long game, but i think it will give them some credibility if they manage to stick it out to the end. It could be a definitive series if done correctly, but will never happen.

I just love for example how Kirkman's stuff actually ENDS to see that with these character who've died and come back a crazy amount of times would be great to see if those possible iterations STAY dead.
DTor91
DTor91 - 4/15/2024, 11:49 AM
@Origame - That’s because Batman & Robin ended up a nightmare. Outside of critical reviews of it, it was hit with constant delays, with about a year or so in between the penultimate and last issues published.

Adam Hughes drew an entire issue for what would have been All-Star Wonder Woman #1 before it was decided to end the All-Star line entirely.
DTor91
DTor91 - 4/15/2024, 11:54 AM
@UniqNo - If I recall correctly, Miller wanted to do All-Star Robin as a follow up. But then when the line was ended, it was going to be Dark Knight: Robin. But of course, the project never saw the light of day.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 4/15/2024, 12:41 PM
@UniqNo - The All Star line could’ve been great but I jumped ship when Batman and Robin painted themselves yellow and beat the stuffings out of Green Lantern. I get the old trope of him not being able to affect anything yellow but cmon maaaan.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 4/15/2024, 1:03 PM
@dracula - was Earth One Superman akin to Man of Steel? Similar type of origin story?
dracula
dracula - 4/15/2024, 2:16 PM
@Arthorious - similar idea different execution
EarlChai
EarlChai - 4/15/2024, 10:49 AM
This is what, the third or fourth "DC's Ultimates line" that's happened?
JacobKarr
JacobKarr - 4/15/2024, 10:49 AM
"Absolute Comics"? So like Detective Comics is DC, this will be AC. Like AC/DC... I can't decide if it's cringe or low key brilliant
BreakTheCode
BreakTheCode - 4/15/2024, 10:56 AM
You want to increase sales? Write good stories. It’s that simple.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 4/15/2024, 10:57 AM
Nothing new, they do this all the time, like the Earth One line.
SuperJefe
SuperJefe - 4/15/2024, 10:58 AM
They invoked the New Universe?!?!

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Man, I actively sought these out and collected them for a minute in the 80s. What a dork.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 4/15/2024, 11:09 AM
@SuperJefe - Some say that sereis was the fall of Jim Shooter as Editor-in-Chief for MArvel.
SuperJefe
SuperJefe - 4/15/2024, 11:29 AM
@Nomis929 - Yeah he was a strange man. Byrne had some interesting stuff to say about him. Essentially, after Secret Wars was a hit, Shooter got a little power crazy. I recently reread a handful of New Universe titles and from a nostalgic standpoint it was fun, but in a shaking-my-head-in disbelief sorta way haha.
RolandD
RolandD - 4/15/2024, 1:38 PM
@SuperJefe - I have read several sources that speak of him as being controlling. I want to say he was the reason creatives like Roy Thomas and Marv Wolfman jumped ship and went to DC, but I won’t swear to it. That said, Byrne is a wack job and I wouldn’t put a lot of credence in anything he says. His opinions are way out there.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 4/15/2024, 1:43 PM
@SuperJefe - And SECRET WARS began as a toy promotion.

Shooter had a pretty good run as EOC, at least intially. He implamented a strong emphasis of getting the books out on time and did.

But you had Chris Claremont and John Byrne's run on the Uncanny X-Men, Byrne's work on Fantastic Four, Frank Miller's series of Daredevil stories,] Walt Simonson's Thor, and Roger Stern's runs on both Avengers and The Amazing Spider-Man whil he was at the hlm.

He also institutionalized creator royalties, starting with "Epic Illustraded" for creator-owned material in 1982; and introduced company-wide crossover events, which Marvel stil have till this day.

But his strong edititoeral control over the stories and artwork to fit his own personal agendas was the reason many of them left Marvel in the mid '80s to DC.

He never recovered afer that.
marvel72
marvel72 - 4/15/2024, 2:09 PM
@SuperJefe - Starbrand was the only good one, I think they did an event in the New Universe called The Pit.
SuperJefe
SuperJefe - 4/15/2024, 2:33 PM
@marvel72 - I remember liking Starbrand, too
SuperJefe
SuperJefe - 4/15/2024, 2:36 PM
@Nomis929 - Man, I legit loved those Secret Wars toys. Back then having a Daredevil action figure was freaking mind-blowing…we just didn’t get a figure for every character like we do now.
SuperJefe
SuperJefe - 4/15/2024, 2:51 PM
@RolandD - Yeah I liked Byrne a lot more in my innocent youth … today it’s just an admiration of his artistic skills.
RolandD
RolandD - 4/15/2024, 6:13 PM
@SuperJefe - Agreed.
Forthas
Forthas - 4/15/2024, 10:58 AM
"Again, details are scarce right now, but this may, for example, mean we'll get a Superman who isn't a father. That would bring the Man of Steel more in line with what we'll see in James Gunn's SUPERMAN next year..."

So that means going forward, Superman's logo will look like this?

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bobevanz
bobevanz - 4/15/2024, 10:59 AM
(Fifth?) Times the charm lol
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 4/15/2024, 11:11 AM
Another reboot? C'mon DC.
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