COMICS: Dan Slott Talks SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #9; Teases Another Major Status-Quo Shift

COMICS: Dan Slott Talks SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #9; Teases Another Major Status-Quo Shift

Superior Spider-Man writer Dan Slott talks about where the series goes from here now that Peter Parker is gone and Otto Octavius no longer has his memories. He also teases another major status-quo shift after the next story arc is complete. Read on for more!

By JoshWilding - May 05, 2013 08:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics
Source: Marvel

In an interview with Marvel.com, Dan Slott has talked more about the shocking (and controversial) events of Superior Spider-Man #9. In the issue, Otto Octavius emerged, well, "Superior" after destroying the last memory fragment left of Peter Parker. This means that he no longer has the hero watching over him or influencing his actions; instead, Doctor Octopus is now well and truly Spider-Man! He also no longer has Peter's memories, so this leaves Octavius in a very interesting position moving forward. Below are some excerpts from Slott's chat with the site, but be sure to click on the link at the bottom of the page for the full length version.


On Whether Superior Spider-Man Will Now Be A Peter Parker Free Book:

Peter's final hail Mary move when he was dying [in AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #700] was to give Doc Ock the shared experience of all the lessons Peter needed to learn to know that with great power, comes great responsibility. And especially after SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #8, where Doc saves a young girl's life, he realizes that he's wasted his life on being a villain. He wants to give this hero thing a shot. In his mind, the thing he destroyed—when we saw the Uncle Ben memory die in #9, and the way he talked about Peter at the beginning of the issue—he thought of this as a Peter Parker memory fragment, as an echo. This wasn't murder. This was him giving New York and the world, in his mind, a Superior Spider-Man. In the ego of Doc Ock, it would be irresponsible of him to relinquish control back to Peter.


On Peter Parker's Final Moments:

To be fair, in Peter's defense, when Doc is walking away and leaving the mind-scape, one of the last things Peter says is, "It was only a moment. I would never." The thing that everyone forgets about Peter Parker is that Peter Parker is not a saint. When he let that burglar run by, he could have done anything to stop him and he didn't, and that burglar killed Uncle Ben. That's when he learned the lesson that with great power comes great responsibility. But that didn't magically baptize him and make him flawless.

Superior Spider-Man #9 page by Dan Slott, Ryan Stegman & Edgar Delgado
We've seen over the years, many times, that when Peter Parker really wants to do the wrong thing; he has that moment, and then he shuts it down. We've seen where he really wants to use his spider-powers to punch Flash Thompson, and he's imagining it, and he stops himself. And then Flash gets kidnapped by Doctor Doom, and Peter leans back and decides to do nothing about it. Two panels later, he's all, "Ah, fine, I'll save him!" It's that way for the history of Spider-Man.


On The Advantages Of Peter Parker No Longer Being In The Series:

Early on, when I was telling everyone [at Marvel] what I wanted to do with SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN, everyone was really cool about it, until we got up to it happening. Axel Alonso, our wonderful [Editor-in-Chief], said, "Wait a minute—there's going to be no Peter Parker in this?" And we argued about it, we discussed it. Mark Waid threw in some ideas and Matt Fraction threw in ideas. Something we all settled on and liked was the idea of Ghost Pete. I was a little against it at first, but once everyone got so crazy at the end of AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #700—and I have never seen comics fans get so crazy about something I've written—I knew that having that twist ending in SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #1 with Ghost Pete, I was like, "Oh, thank God Axel wanted this! He was right!" We knew once we had Ghost Pete, that he would go away after eight or nine issues. And then it ramps up even more. In other words, the series so far has been on training wheels. Now that the wheels are off, we can do all kinds of crazy things with the bike. "Look, one wheel! Woo-hoo!" We have no hands on the bars. We can go a little crazy. Oh, I can't wait.


On Whether Otto Octavius Still Has Peter's Memories:

Nope. He originally set up a plan where he could have all of those memories, so that if someone came up to him saying, "Remember that time in Budapest?" He could answer, "Ah, yes, I remember, and here's the secret handshake!" Flash could go, "Hey, remember when you showed up for my 20th birthday?" Otto could answer, "Yes, I do! You were wearing a green shirt!" All of that is gone. That's going to create some new problems.


On Where Superior Spider-Man Goes From Here:

In SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #10, we are getting all of the fallout from #9. What is Peter Parker's life like now, now that it's just Otto? What's that like? We check in on all of these characters and people and relationships. And we're starting to get a feel for what the Green Goblin is up to. What's he doing now that he's back? Right now, Otto is in control of the moral compass of Spider-Man. That might not be a good thing. If you're looking for a road to redemption, you're probably better off having a Peter Parker moral compass, rather than an Otto Octavius one. That said, he does want to be a hero. Now more than ever, he's going to be that hero—in his own way. That's going to lead to some very interesting things. There will be a major, major status-quo shift by the end of SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #13. Right when you think you know where we're going, when you get to the end and everything's played out in this big, giant adventure yarn, it's going to be a big shift. And so much of that comes from the fact that Peter Parker is no longer there.


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CaptainObvious
CaptainObvious - 5/5/2013, 9:00 AM
"The thing that everyone forgets about Peter Parker is that Peter Parker is not a saint. When he let that burglar run by, he could have done anything to stop him and he didn't, and that burglar killed Uncle Ben. That's when he learned the lesson that with great power comes great responsibility. But that didn't magically baptize him and make him flawless."

So what? He still would not cause the death of a child for selfish reasons. It's almost as if Slott has no idea how Spider-Man's character works.
orpheus
orpheus - 5/5/2013, 9:10 AM
I think this is an awesome move. Spider-man has been badly in need of something to move it into a deeper direction. As a Spider-man fan, I'm absolutely cool with Otto forever replacing Peter, though I don't think that will happen. However, Peter has always 'hovered' in a kind of ambivalence that Slott talks about in these excerpts, hopefully seeing how Doc Ock challenges Peter as not going far enough will, in the future, push Peter in a new, deeper, and more involved direction of what it means to be Spider-man when and if he returns.
Devilbeam
Devilbeam - 5/5/2013, 9:11 AM
Love Superior Spider-Man. Cant wait for issue 17!

Fanboy tears are delicious
Benjamitesandwich
Benjamitesandwich - 5/5/2013, 9:12 AM
Frankly, I'm a huge Spider-Man fan, and I absolutely love this series. Most of the people on this site haven't even read it. It's good! This is not permanent, it's just another story-arch--another place for the hero to go.
Devilbeam
Devilbeam - 5/5/2013, 9:12 AM
@orpheus

Exactly
Benjamitesandwich
Benjamitesandwich - 5/5/2013, 9:19 AM
One thing I have loved about Slott's writing in the series is the test of "With great power comes great responsibility" on Peter. What happens when that power is taken away?

Granted Ock is now Peter, the story (up until now) was still much about him as well. Great character development and great storytelling.
Havenless
Havenless - 5/5/2013, 9:20 AM
Why do you people cry so much? If it were up to you, every Spider-Man book would be him fighting generic thugs so he doesn't get hurt and going to bed at a reasonable hour.

Groundhogs day over and over to protect Spider-Man. Something big happens to him and the rivers start flowing down your faces.

This isn't permanent, enjoy it while it's happening because soon enough it'll just be Peter Parker punching Chameleon and then getting an early dinner, because everyone wouldn't stop crying for it.
RoastedRay
RoastedRay - 5/5/2013, 9:24 AM
I think Dan Slott is such a twat. Not for Superior though I like the new approach to Spiderman. I asked for something new for Spiderman and I got what I asked for and this is an interesting new take. He just can't write to save his life and is so focused on making us hate him instead of writing something good. Avenging Spiderman is telling Spock's story way better than his actual title.
Viltrumite
Viltrumite - 5/5/2013, 9:29 AM
Yes, get ready for yet another status quo change four issues from now. Again.
Ryden
Ryden - 5/5/2013, 9:29 AM
@Heavenless - Not at all. New stories with interesting plot developments and twists is fine, in fact it's encouraged.But the Superior Spider-Man is NOT that. It's a poorly written book with a terrible idea behind it.

It's possible to write new and exciting stories without completely taking a dump on a character and flipping the bird to the fans, which Marvel and specifically Dan "The Gut" Slott have been doing recently.

Look at Batman:The Long Halloween for example, that was a pretty interesting take on Batman with it not focusing so much on super-villains and introducing new characters and yet, they didn't ruin the character of Batman or his mythos. In fact it's considered one of the greatest Batman stories ever.

So why can't Spider-Man get the same treatment?


To be honest, I feel like this is a "New Coke" move by Marvel. They're providing the fans with an awful, crappy version of Spider-Man and are aiming to take it to the depths of crapville that fans are gonna hate. Mark my words, at some point after they've given us the worst they can offer, they'll announce a new Spider-Man title with Peter Parker back as Spidey with all the classic villains etc and we'll all eat that shit up like nobody's business.

Really, it's pretty clever.
Viltrumite
Viltrumite - 5/5/2013, 9:31 AM
I'm hoping that once Peter returns, it's a more classic "retro-modern" take on the series, like what Mark Waid is doing with Daredevil.

You're right. I -would- eat that shit up like nobody's business.
Benjamitesandwich
Benjamitesandwich - 5/5/2013, 9:33 AM
Yeah, I don't think half of the people here have even read the series. :P
Odin
Odin - 5/5/2013, 9:35 AM
@LEVITIKUZ "hey if Dan Slott can make it, I can make it."
Lol, I'm gonna have that framed in my office.
coolguy
coolguy - 5/5/2013, 9:36 AM
I like this idea but idk if id want to read a story where lex takes over superman for as long as this series seems to be going for.
CaptainObvious
CaptainObvious - 5/5/2013, 9:40 AM
Of course, another major shift in the status-quo. I think Slott is scared people will stop reading his god-awful stories if there is no shock value.

As for the people say this is an interesting take on what happens to responsibility without power, it's not. In fact, Stan Lee did this many years ago with Spider-Man No More. And I can tell you he didn't spend the entire story sitting on his ass and doing selfish things.
THRILLHO
THRILLHO - 5/5/2013, 9:40 AM


OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 5/5/2013, 9:45 AM
i just want the marvel universe superior spider-man figure.
superherofan21
superherofan21 - 5/5/2013, 9:49 AM
Twist at the end of #13?
Maybe he'll actually do something good and bring Pete back somehow.
I seriously doubt he'll do that, but I'm praying that the one and ONLY wallcrawler returns.
CamoDownToMyBoxers
CamoDownToMyBoxers - 5/5/2013, 9:50 AM
people are crying for their loss of spider-man because even if he does come back its gonna be in some stupid 1/2 ass way that just makes this whole thing pointless. Why do it in the 1st place if he's destined to come back?! Why do I have to play the waiting game?? why not do this to Reed Richards or somebody with no love???! make them a more compelling character, imagine if Hulk died and someone with a greater mind learned how to take control of the Hulk IDK...and why does marvel thinks it cool to fuse everyone together?! Arnim Zola x Capt, Spidey x Doc Ock, Deadpool x The Random Shield agent. Whos next?!?!
FlixMentallo21
FlixMentallo21 - 5/5/2013, 9:51 AM
To the modern Earth-616 universe (post-2004):
Tymminator
Tymminator - 5/5/2013, 9:58 AM
Why this is ridiculous is, Yeah he is not a Saint, but realistically nobody is.

Even real people who others consider Saints are far from perfect because they are in fact people.

To go and look back at everything Parker has done over the years under different writers. especially with a current/modern reference is simply stupid. For another example is the Superdickery stuff on Superman, it's funny to look back on them and how stuff was written,but it doesn't give current writers the OK to suddenly write Superman as a dick.

He wasn't a saint and he had flaws, but he really tried to do the right thing more than most other heroes. Truth is, Parker is a fictional character, but if he did exist and you knew him, he would be one of the better people you could know.
joeker
joeker - 5/5/2013, 10:17 AM
they said when this started that'Peter will not be coming back'. so i hope sales go shit
Dminic
Dminic - 5/5/2013, 10:24 AM
What a (frick)ing idiot. Of all the reasons he choose to make this decision he choose the moment that defined Spider-man, the moment he let the murderer of Ben walk out of that door...SMH!!
At that time Peter didn't know that guy was a f%%&^)ng murderer, only a thief. To give that as a reason why he'll let an innocent girl die is just middle finger to the fans.. Because of that mistake he became Spider-man…. It defined Peter to who he was until you shitty series… That’s why he’ll always do the right thing!! THAT IS PETER and his legacies, but you defiled it!!
DAN SLOT YOUR A DIPSHIT WRITER… F U!
Dminic
Dminic - 5/5/2013, 10:39 AM
STAN LEE KNOWS BEST!!!!

Following an “early happy birthday” from Superior Spider-Man writer Dan Slott on Twitter, Spider-Man creator Stan Lee responded, “@DanSlott what a gift, some guys give a nice cigar, a watch, but no not you, I get a dead #PeterParker Thanks for the bday wishes my friend!”

Responded Dan Slott, “HA! Printing that out now. THAT’S goin’ up on the fridge! I am NEVER taking that down!!!!”

And Lee’s response: “At least you’ll have a good piece of writing in your house. Ha. Keep up the amazingly spectacular work you always do!”
wyzguy
wyzguy - 5/5/2013, 11:00 AM
When I heard about the death of Perter Parker and his replacement by Octavius, I thought "Wow. Another cheap death by Marvel, Just like Captain America's. But I kept an open mind & gave it a shot & now I love it. I can't wait to see where this goes & I think it's gonna be a fun ride while it lasts. However, what i think is gonna really suck and ruin the whole thing, is the fact that at some point soon (before the next movie), they are gonna undo it all, and put Parker back in the driver's seat. That is when the whole thing will be a cheap, sh!tty move by Marvel, created solely for the sake of sales and marketing. JUST LIKE THE "DEATH" OF CAPTAIN AMERICA.
JaiHo
JaiHo - 5/5/2013, 11:30 AM
Dan Slott: Destroying your favourite hero since 2008.

In all fairness, I liked some of his work on Spidey. But it`s clear now that he doesn`t understand the character. And the "shock value" is getting really tiresome. "Tune in next time, when we piss off the fans even more".
Ancar
Ancar - 5/5/2013, 11:36 AM
This has gone too far already!

In the final chapter of this crap story arc, the "superior" will discover that he was Peter all the time and that just had Octavius conscience through this shitty period.

And everything will go back to normalty.
FrostyVoice
FrostyVoice - 5/5/2013, 11:40 AM
sigh...

wolverine will be mortal.
spiderman is NOT peter parker...in any universe (a joke in it of itself)
iron man is a guardian
cyclops is a villian
prof x has no brain and is still a zombie of himself.

marvel, we need to take a break. we'll discuss our future when you do a bit of a reboot.
fedup
fedup - 5/5/2013, 1:25 PM
The biggest problem I have with Marvel right now is that they're trying to cram too many event books and too many "game changers" down our throats at once. There's no more naturally good storytelling. Of all the changes that have occured in the past decade the only ones I could really get behind were 1. Having Wolverine become essentially the leader of the X-Men and 2. Cyclops becoming a villain. Those were good status quo changes because they actually added to the story and made sense given everything the characters had been dealing with. Everybody wanted Wolverine to find something that gave him purpose and starting his own team of X-Men in Jean's name was the logical, natural progression. Cyclops has been a toold since the 90s and having him become a villain (instead of the numerous attempts to make him a "cool" character) was a natural progression. Everything else they've done has been a sales gimmick.
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