PHASE 3: A Dire Fan's Theory

PHASE 3: A Dire Fan's Theory

Breaking down the upcoming slate of Marvel's releases, I theorize how Marvel plans to continue their winning strategy.

Editorial Opinion
By AvisQuinn - Dec 22, 2014 12:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics

Phase 3: A Dire Fan's Theory

Marvel has recently announced its planned series of films for what Kevin Feige referred to as Phase 3. It promises to be the most unique, dynamic, diverse, and possibly best grouping of releases by the studio to date. But the question has to be asked, what can Marvel do that we have not already seen? Tim Burton, a man familiar with comic book films, has recently gone on record to say that he believes the success of the Marvel films cannot last. And even James Gunn himself, the man responsible for Guardians of the Galaxy, has openly stated that he is not especially a fan of the idea of a shared universe. Add to that the planned releases of rival company DC comics, and audiences are sure to experience some level of fatigue in the near future regarding comic book and superhero films. As a quick summary of Phase 3, Marvel plans to begin it with Captain America: Civil War in 2016. This is a fantastic response, in my humble opinion, to DC's planned Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice, due out in March of the same year. Following that, Marvel plans to release Doctor Strange, a sequel to Guardians of the Galaxy, a threequel to Thor, introduce new characters like Black Panther (so excited for this one), Captain Marvel (and this one), Inhumans, and finally bring the Infinity War to live action with their two-part Avengers threequel. If you have lost count, that's a total of eight films in five years. Not that many in the grand scheme of things, right? I don't believe Marvel plans to saturate the market with comic books films, but unfortunately, they're not the only studios in the world with these characters. Sony still has Spider-Man, even if they have made a mess of the character. Fox Studios is finishing up production of the reboot of Fantastic Four as well as pre-production of X-Men: Apocalypse. So, it begs the question: what can Marvel do to maintain their position as the dominant comic book film studio? Here's what I think Marvel should do, and in some cases will do, to keep their burgeoning franchise alive and well.

1. Marvel films will contain more than just one character.

This one should be pretty obvious, as Marvel has already began to do this. But I believe moving forward, Marvel will begin to load their films with more than one character. There are several characters, like Black Widow, Hulk, Falcon, and Hawkeye, who are fan favorites and have sizeable followings, who were sadly left out of Phase 3's slate of releases. To keep the fans pleased, I theorize that Marvel will begin to find ways of pairing multiple heroes and/or villains together to give the audience more for their dollar.

2. Post-Credit Scenes that have more relevance to the MCU.

If there is one thing that is guaranteed to continue in the MCU, it's the post-credit scenes. Save for Guardians of the Galaxy and to a lesser degree Iron Man 3, all of the films had scenes that somehow fed into MCU as a whole. Going forward, I theorize that the post-credit scenes will take on far more relevance to the MCU than they already have. To the extent that plot points and character introductions will be made during them. This has already begun this year with the release of Captain America: The Winter Soldier, as we were given our first glimpses of Baron Von Strucker, Marvels' version of Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch. As Phase 3 rolls out, Marvel will continue this as a way of adding depth to their overall narrative.

3. Villains with villainous intentions.

One of Marvel's shortcomings is their villains. Granted, they choose excellent ones to pair with their heroes. But the villains, save for Loki, have been mostly cannon fodder. While those of us who have seen the films can remember the villains, we might be a bit lost trying to determine their motivations. In Phase 3, Marvel needs to address this issue. Their choices of antagonists have been great, but now we need to have antagonists who aren't there simply to be defeated by the heroes. So few of them manage to survive the end of the films. If Marvel is planning to combine their heroes, it would be prudent of them to do the same with their villains. In order for us to take as much interest in their antagonists as we do their heroes, Marvel needs to do better work with them.

4. The repercussions of the films will be farther reaching.

One of the best things about a Marvel film is that they truly feel independent from their joint ventures. Iron Man 3's events were centered largely on that character. Thor's second outing had immense, universal stakes but still felt self-contained. And even The Winter Soldier still felt smaller than the Avengers, even with all of the characters and implications it had. I theorize that going forward, Marvel will start to make their characters more interwoven. With Doctor Strange on the way, who has a history of popping up everywhere in the Marvel Universe, and Kevin Feige promising to include characters like Hulk and Black Widow in forthcoming films, the actions of those characters will carry over from film to film. How have the events of The Winter Soldier influenced Doctor Strange, who we know now does exists in the MCU? Or have the actions of the Guardians of the Galaxy somehow played into the creation of Captain Marvel? To be successful in the future, Marvel needs to begin to unify these characters and their stories in such a way that even though they feel contained, they also affect other parts of the MCU. As with every point mentioned hitherto, Marvel does this already. But I believe it will have to occur to a greater degree moving forward. Otherwise, characters coming together will feel like a lucky happenstance rather than a collaborative effort.

5. Marvel's television universe will play into the MCU.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is amazing. I love the show. I love that they paired the events of The Winter Solider with the show. I love that they introduced characters like Quake and Mr. Hyde. But what I liked even more was that by altering Quake's origin to make her an Inhuman, we have been introduced to them. Not only that, but now we know that the Kree have been to Earth before. And they have left their influence on the planet. Marvel has a great opportunity with their television shows to introduce these lesser known characters to the world before their respective films are released. Inhumans is just the first example of this. But there are more series on the way, like Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and a re-envisioning of Daredevil. The possibilities are endless for Marvel to teach their audience about these lesser-known heroes through their shows. And going forward, I theorize that they will.

What do you think? Will Marvel continue to be the upper echelon of comic book films? Phase 3 is almost upon us and only time will tell.

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tonytony
tonytony - 12/22/2014, 2:32 AM
In an nutshell, No! there are signs they are losing their dominance already. The flash is widedly regarded as the best superhero show on tv and its been on the air for less time than Agents of shield and isnt tied into a cinematic universe either. I believe Batman V superman will have a similar impact and mean DC catch up and maybe overtake marvel in one fell swoop. Also marvel movies are making less and they know they need a lift which is why they are trying to get spiderman into cinematic univers to compete with the excitement created by Batman and superman being in the same screen together.

Without Spiderman, after age of ultron, i think most of those movies will struggle to generate the same interest.

Also with DC coming on to the scene in a big way Marvel will have real competition it will no longer be enough for disney trolls to attack movies they havent seen to spread negativity about other studion without seeing them(like they tried to do with interstellar and BVS) People are wise to their act and it will be interesting to see how they fare against real competition.

NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 12/22/2014, 3:06 AM
@tonytony
Sorry, did you say Marvel movies are making less? As in money? You do realise that every single movie in Phase 2 has outperformed the previous instalment of its respective franchise and not only that, Guardians of the Galaxy made more than Thor 2 and Winter Soldier? A completely unknown property to the wider audience and even most comic book fans outperformed two of Marvel's most beloved and classic characters.

Also, if Spidey movies keep being consistently shit, nobody will want to watch a movie with him in it. The character is becoming genuinely toxic. If anything, Marvel are better off without him. All he's currently good for is attracting the youngest possible audience of 4-7 year olds.

Lastly, why in the name of God does it have to be a bloody competition? Just because DC have their act together now and we know where they're heading doesn't make them a threat to Marvel movies in any way, shape or form, that's just deluded fan bias. If BvS is as epic as I'm hoping it to be, then roll on Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman. These movies are only in competition when we want them to be, and sadly, that seems to be all the God damned time. Yes they're produced by separate studios, but they're selling the same freakin' product and when you've got a market as big as this, an audience that spans the entire globe more or less, there's no room for competition, especially if there's only two brands in it.
MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 12/22/2014, 3:10 AM
Excellent article! I really think you nailed when it comes to Marvel including other heroes in the solo movies. I just hope it's for story reasons rather than cheap nerdgasm moments for the trailers. I'm also a little fearful since there hasn't been a single mention of Ant-Man in regards to Phase 3. Is that movie really destined to become the "Incredible Hulk" of Phase 2?

I'm also worried about the movies building off of the TV-shows, since it might be hard to follow for people who haven't watched them. I love AoS but it would be pretty selfish of us fans to expect huge payoffs in the movies from stories that began on TV.

I also sort of agree with James Gunn when it comes to GOTG being in a shared universe. I think Guardians-movies should be used to flesh out the cosmic side of the MCU and introduce as many planets, races, and iconic Marvel Cosmic characters as they can, instead of just finding new connections to earth. GOTG should only have peripheral connections to Earth and The Avengers that should come from Star-Lord and Thanos only.

All in all, things are looking great for the future of the MCU, and it looks like fans are in for a treat.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 12/22/2014, 3:25 AM
TonyTony- " Also marvel movies are making less"
what? i take it you havent been following CBM related news.by the way i dont think marvel needs spiderman proof GOTG. the only thing i agree with you about is flash is currently best CBM show on tv but i personally put AOS in 2nd place and i hope daredevil will be awesome (i know it's not technically on tv)
kinghulk
kinghulk - 12/22/2014, 3:27 AM
Maximusthemad- havent you seen the rumors about ant man connections to general ross from the incredible hulk which leads into civil war?
MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 12/22/2014, 3:57 AM
@kinghulk

I stand corrected. Really hope the ANT-MAN movie doesn't suck though, or they might just bury the character in a grave of retcons or just pretend the movie never existed.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 12/22/2014, 4:05 AM
Maximus- same i'll hold my judgement until i see a trailer but from what little we have seen like the yellowjacket suit i feel like it has a chance of being good.
kong
kong - 12/22/2014, 4:52 AM
@NovaCorpsFan

MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 12/22/2014, 11:04 AM
If I had arms like Spiral, I would give 6 thumbs up.

Gunn has made me very hesitant with the GotG franchise with his recent comics, will he wear out his welcome at Marvel? I love GotG, and am excited for the sequel and hope Gunn stops this me against the world crap.

I too hope we get more significant mid and end credit scenes. Some damn Marvel One Shots would be nice too.

I am not worried about fatigue or over saturation. If the films continue to be good than people will not get tired of it. If the genre becomes lazy and gives half ass effort than the public will say enough is enough.

I still do not understand how some people don't see where the villains motives have been. I agree they need more screen time to showcase themselves as characters, but I personally understood each villains motives.

"There will always be men like you."

I think what most of what Phase 2, excluding Captain America; The Winter Soldier, is much better hand to hand action. Drax vs Ronan was was way too one sided and weak. This is one reason I really like the Russo brothers for Infinity War.

I always thought once Avengers Assemble was completed instead of sequels to individual characters, we just get 4 or 5 Avenger films, different squads doing different missions.

So the Netflix Shows are a part of Phase 2 or 3? The changing of Ant-Man to Phase has me a little confused. I am very excited to see the DD series is being influenced by Miller and Romita Jr's run. I really hope Luke Cage is done justice, no n bombs or ignorant stuff like that. Cage should be more KRS-One than Jay-Z. I would like to see Iron Fist changed into Asian descent, but if we are going Caucasian my vote goes to Justin Chatwin.



Again great article.

MileHighRonin
MileHighRonin - 12/22/2014, 11:05 AM
*Comments*
dapug88
dapug88 - 12/22/2014, 12:22 PM
Great article.
AvisQuinn
AvisQuinn - 12/22/2014, 4:44 PM
@MileHighRonin,

Mr. Gunn has also made me nervous. He really seems to want to keep "his" franchise separate from the rest of the MCU. I will be the first one to admit that Guardians was not perfect, but it was fun. And much of where the MCU is headed can be introduced with Guardians in some capacity. I just hope Gunn doesn't pull an Edgar Wright and "creative differences" his way out of an otherwise amazing collaboration.
MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 12/22/2014, 5:07 PM
@EpochAmeiroir and everybody else,

I'm not sure Mr. Gunn intends to shield his corner of the MCU from everything else. He just wants to reiterate the fact that the GOTG movies and their stories DO NOT serve as stepping stones towards the Avengers sequels like some of the other movies do.

Besides, there has always been one phase movie that would lead into an Avengers movie each phase. If we ignore IM 2, (which was more like an oversized trailer for Avengers) we had "Thor" as the main movie leading in to The Avengers, since it introduced Thor (Avenger), Loki (Main Villain), Erik Selvig (Important plot device), and Hawkeye (Avenger).

The main movie leading in to A2 is probably Cap 2, since it provides us with the status quo in which AoU is set (S.H.I.E.L.D-less society).

MaximusTheMad
MaximusTheMad - 12/23/2014, 12:15 PM
Hey, man! The Guardians have an entire Avenger-less galaxy as their playground. How could you possibly tie them in to Avengers 2, when that movie's storyline is centered around Earth and Hydra and Politics and Artificial Intelligence?

And please don't diss Gunn based on his willingness or ability to tie his movie in to a movie called Age of Ultron. That's just not a valid complaint.
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