SQUADRON SUPREME: Marvel’s Other Superhero Team to Rival Justice League

SQUADRON SUPREME: Marvel’s Other Superhero Team to Rival Justice League

Marvel has another superhero team that explored the themes of Watchmen before Watchmen did.

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By Comedian666 - Sep 05, 2013 12:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics



When Marvel’s Squadron Supreme first appeared in Avengers # 85, they were meant to be an in-jokey pseudo-crossover with DC’s Justice League. They quickly grew in popularity, however, and became so much more than the pastiche of their counterparts they originally were. The Squadron Supreme would show up several more times over the years, but it wasn’t until their appearance in Defenders #’s 112-114 where they are the pawns of the evil Overmind that they began to really become a force to be reckoned with.

In those Defenders issues, the Squadron were the pawns of the Overmind and an otherdimensional entity named Null the Living Darkness. The Defenders helped free the Squadron and saved their world. That was just the beginning for the world of the Squadron Supreme, though. Mark Gruenwald took the Squadron Supreme in a direction that explored the themes that a few months later would also be explored by the critically acclaimed Watchmen.

The leader of the Squadron Supreme, Hyperion, who was originally the Superman analogue for the team, decided that the best thing to do to bring peace to their planet and prevent war was for them to take over, creating a utopian world ruled by superheroes. Nighthawk, the Batman analogue of the team, opposed this plan and left the team over it, forming his own rebellion out of other heroes who opposed Hyperion and criminals who were able to escape the Squadron’s mind-controlling behavior modification devices. If some of these themes sound familiar, it’s because they have since been used by both Marvel and DC, but Squadron Supreme did it first and better. In DC’s Infinite Crisis, DC also decided to explore the idea of mind-wiping villains, except that they used Zatanna’s magic as the way to do it rather than the technology created by Squadron Supreme’s resident scientist Tom Thumb, who, in the most emotional issue of the series, failed to find a cure for his terminal cancer.


The series is full of symbolism and if you’ve never read it, I would very much recommend it. I don’t want to spoil the ending of the series here in case you do decide to read it, but it was a 12 issue series, just like Watchmen, and has a definite ending, though it leaves the end open for further exploration into the world of the Squadron Supreme (which they did with a follow-up graphic novel).

When the writer of this groundbreaking series died, Marvel even mixed his ashes into the red ink of the first printing of the trade paperback release as a means of honoring one of the greatest writers and editors they had ever had.

Squadron Supreme would make an excellent movie that would show the downside of superheroics in the same way that Watchmen did but would also explore those themes with more super-powered heroes and villains. If I were Marvel, this is the movie I would do before DC got to Justice League. It would show them just how interesting their characters could actually be.
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marvel72
marvel72 - 9/5/2013, 12:29 PM
if marvel studios moved forward with this,warner/dc would be so f*ckin pissed.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 9/5/2013, 12:32 PM
When the writer of this groundbreaking series died, Marvel even mixed his ashes into the red ink of the first printing of the trade paperback release as a means of honoring one of the greatest writers and editors they had ever had.

What the [frick]?
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 9/5/2013, 12:34 PM
Fvck yes! R-rated Supreme Power. Antje Trau for Zarda. Fvck yes.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 9/5/2013, 12:37 PM
Yeah, that ashes thing is true, Levi. Guy's name was Gru. Fvcker was a legend.
marvel72
marvel72 - 9/5/2013, 12:41 PM
reading hyperion's origin in marvel now series avengers,it pretty much mirrors superman's.
Minotauro
Minotauro - 9/5/2013, 12:49 PM
"reading hyperion's origin in marvel now series avengers,it pretty much mirrors superman's."

And that pretty much sums up Marvel.
marvel72
marvel72 - 9/5/2013, 12:52 PM
@ Minotauro

yeah cause dc never copy marvel.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 9/5/2013, 12:58 PM
Wow, you're all so young. Gusto, I need you now, more than ever.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 9/5/2013, 1:41 PM
minoturo- well dc is now the one copying marvel trying to make their own cinematic universe.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 9/5/2013, 1:53 PM
Good point, kinghulk. Although the only reason Stan Lee created not only The Avengers but also the Fantastic Four was to emulate the Justice League.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 9/5/2013, 1:58 PM
yeah i know marvel have copied dc i just wanted to make it clear that it hapens the other way as well and is happening right now.
Comedian666
Comedian666 - 9/5/2013, 2:08 PM
It happens in the comics as well. In Justice League, DC created the Extremists, which are supposed to be Avengers analogues in the same way that Squadron Supreme are JL analogues.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 9/5/2013, 2:09 PM
Yeah, they copy each other. No need for a mini-flame, right? Especially since, in this case, the Squadron Supreme were introduced in The Avengers as a pastiche of the Justice League. They did it on pyrpose. And DC did a pastiche of The Avengers in the pages of Justice League within the space of a month or so. They both did it at the exact same time. On purpose. Those were the days. The days when DC and Marvel had an annual baseball contest. I guess that won't be happening any more, since Disney stole Marvel away from the apple.
Comedian666
Comedian666 - 9/5/2013, 2:24 PM
Some fo my favorite comics are the Marvel/DC crossovers they did. I loved X-Men/Teen Titans, Batman/Hulk, Superman/Spider-Man and Batman/Captain America. The crossovers ended when Joe Q. came to Marvel, though. He couldn't resist making fun of DC and they pissed each other off. They only allowed Justice League/Avengers because they knew everyone wanted it and because George Perez still wanted to do it.
DukeAcureds
DukeAcureds - 9/5/2013, 2:30 PM
Comedian666@ "Finally someone who speaks English".
Can't believe nobody has heard of the Squadron Supreme. I feel old.
Comedian666
Comedian666 - 9/5/2013, 3:13 PM
How is this inflammatory at all? I love both Marvel & DC (and other companies).
SnapperCarr
SnapperCarr - 9/5/2013, 5:33 PM
No. Squadron Supreme sucks.

I'd rather see an Marvel's Agents of Atlas movie.


I'd geek out soo much if Iron Man and M-11 met each other!
marvel72
marvel72 - 9/5/2013, 5:47 PM
agents of atlas,the defenders,the inhumans & the thunderbolts would be other team movies i'd like to see happen.
StatenMan18
StatenMan18 - 9/5/2013, 6:13 PM
I don't know these guys but they look bad ass. Marvel has movies set up until 2021 :) so excited !!
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 9/5/2013, 6:20 PM
Man thing came out before swamp thing
Namor came out before aquaman
Deathstroke came out before Deadpool
Green Lantern came out before Nova
You guys could do this all night, what the hell does it matter? When there's thousands of characters, its kinda hard to come up with something that seems original. A lot of writers take this little thing called INSPIRATION.
thenerdicon4
thenerdicon4 - 9/5/2013, 6:34 PM
To be fair on two of those: Man Thing and Swamp Thing came out a few months or so between each other. And Deadpool was kind of a Parody of Deathstroke. Oh, dont forget Doom Patrol! DC did it first and was about outcast Metahumans who had a wheelchair leader. This actually gives creedence to the theory that it wasn't being copied it was actually the Zeitgiest. Look at Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns and the Original Robocop. They all came out around the same time same year sometimes, and have similar themes and similar things happen. Like the treating superheroes more seriously and darker as well as showing corrupt governments and and Banning superheroes. all that good stuff.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/5/2013, 6:49 PM
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WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 9/5/2013, 7:32 PM
@thenerdicon. Actually Man thing was created by the same dudes that created Swamp thing. After they made Man thing for Marvel, they took the concept with them to DC. So think of Man Thing as the prototype if you will. Thats why they got the character right the second time, by putting a little more humanity into the character. Alec Holland is more interesting than, oh wait, its just Man thing, usually. Nobody knows of any human alter egos without looking him up in a wiki. At least I have never met a die hard Man Thing fan. In my opinion, Swamp thing is one of two of DC's best characters.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 9/5/2013, 7:50 PM
I'm actually trying to find what I read before, on the Swamp thing, Man thing, creators. And I can't find it. So I checked the Wikis and it has different people credited as the creators. I don't know what the truth is anymore. My head hurts.
WYLEEJAY
WYLEEJAY - 9/5/2013, 8:24 PM
K, once I become determined I don't quit. Apparently what I read before was a conspiracy theory. The two characters are indeed created by different people. That just so happened to be room mates at the time they were creating the two different characters. So, its supposed to be some kind of coincidence that they both based their characters off another character from decades before. The Heap! And neither person discussed it with the other, and both characters have the title Thing in their names. Hell of a coincidence. Marvel did beat DC to publish the character Man Thing first, by two months. Not enough time to steal a concept back in the seventies. So, huge coincidence.
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