X2 Star Brian Cox Uses DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE As An Example Of Why "Cinema Is In A Very Bad Way"

X2 Star Brian Cox Uses DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE As An Example Of Why "Cinema Is In A Very Bad Way"

X2: X-Men United and Succession star Brian Cox has taken aim at superhero movies, using Deadpool & Wolverine as an example of a "party time" blockbuster which he argues only exist to make money...

By JoshWilding - Aug 18, 2024 05:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Deadpool & Wolverine
Source: The Hollywood Reporter

Brian Cox is no stranger to blockbuster fare, though much of the acclaim he's earned has been for his work on the stage and in HBO's Succession.

In 2004, he joined the Marvel Universe as the villainous William Stryker in X2: X-Men United. Cox was praised for his performance and, for many of you, it will likely be the movie you know him best for. However, the actor isn't the biggest fan of the genre.

Appearing at the Edinburgh International Film Festival this weekend, Cox told attendees (via The Hollywood Reporter), "What’s happened is that television is doing what cinema used to do. I think cinema is in a very bad way."

"I think it’s lost its place because of, partly, the grandiose element between Marvel, DC and all of that," he continued. "And I think it’s beginning to implode, actually. You’re kind of losing the plot."

He'd go on to cite Deadpool & Wolverine as an example of a movie that's "making a lot of money that’ll make everybody happy, but in terms of the work, it becomes diluted afterwards. You’re getting the same old...I mean, I’ve done those kind of [projects]."

Admitting he often forgets that he played Wolverine's creator, Cox said, "Deadpool meets the guy...Wolverine, who I created, but I’ve forgotten. Actually. When those films are on, there’s always a bit of me [as Stryker] and they never pay me any money."

"So it’s just become a party time for certain actors to do this stuff," the actor added. "When you know that Hugh Jackman can do a bit more, Ryan Reynolds...but it’s because they go down that road and it’s box office. They make a lot of money. You can’t knock it."

To say Deadpool & Wolverine was motivated by cash alone seems unfair, particularly as everyone involved has made it clear they set out to make a love letter to these characters, Fox's Marvel Universe, and the genre as a whole.

It's because of that, not just the pairing of its lead characters, that the threequel has been crowned the highest-grossing R-Rated movie ever. Ultimately, moviegoers are responsible for making it clear what they want to watch on screen, which why 2023's subpar comic book movie offerings didn't make anything close to Deadpool & Wolverine

The perception that only superhero movies are playing in theaters is also flawed; by the time 2024 ends, we'll have only had Madame Web, Deadpool & Wolverine, Joker: Folie a Deux, Venom: The Last Dance, and Kraven the Hunter from Marvel and DC.

Deadpool & Wolverine is now playing in theaters.

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LSHF
LSHF - 8/18/2024, 5:40 AM
Cinema will be fine as long as we still have Marty and Francis. <---sarcasm
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/18/2024, 5:42 AM
He sounds bitter and old
tylerzero
tylerzero - 8/18/2024, 7:53 AM
@FireandBlood -

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ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 8/18/2024, 5:43 AM
I love BC, but he bitches about everything like he's the only man with standards and then I hear him doing McDonald's commercials..... I'm lovin it
MCULover
MCULover - 8/18/2024, 5:48 AM
@ProfessorWhy - ba da ba ba ba
MCULover
MCULover - 8/18/2024, 5:47 AM
What's hurting cinema is ticket and snack prices. If it didn't cost me 85 dollars to take my 2 kids to the movies I'd be in the theater more often. Things being as they are we're more choosy about what we watch. And we watch the movies we want to watch.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 8/18/2024, 5:57 AM
@MCULover - exactly and both cinemas and studios refuse to lower those ticket prices
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 8/18/2024, 5:57 AM
@MCULover - I used to work at a cinema and boy the prices were astronomical. Most customers had memberships but even then it was still pricey. I remember back in the late 90s, early 2000s when I was a kid, going to the movies would cost you less than five British pounds. Nowadays I have to budget before i purchase a ticket lol.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/18/2024, 6:20 AM
@TheMetaMan - Those were the days. The whole thing could be done under a tenner, snacks and all 😂
AC1
AC1 - 8/18/2024, 5:53 AM
He's a good actor but he always sounds like such a miserable git in interviews
TheMetaMan
TheMetaMan - 8/18/2024, 5:54 AM
Ohhhh so they are no longer paying him royalties for his role in X2 and now he’s cynical. Got it. He’s a really good actor nonetheless. Regardless he’s getting paid for the jobs he does commit to, maybe he should just focus on that.
newhire13
newhire13 - 8/18/2024, 5:57 AM
Lol, jeez when did it become a crime to just have fun movies? And god forbid they’re successful!
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/18/2024, 6:22 AM
@newhire13 - lol yep

At the end of the day , people want to be entertained and if a movie like this is able to take them away for 2 hours or so , I don’t see anything wrong with that?.

However I do wish smaller movies were promoted more to because these superhero movies are promoted so much that it does feel like they have taken over but you can say that about pretty much any blockbuster because that’s the one people will go to see in theaters more likely
Toecutter
Toecutter - 8/18/2024, 5:58 AM
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I get what he's saying, but this sounds like he hasn't seen the movie and is simply attacking it because it made a lot of money.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 8/18/2024, 6:21 AM
@Toecutter - Exactly. I mean he says that Hugh can do so much more, but I seriously thought this was a career best for him in some moments. He didn't phone it in just because it's a fun popcorn movie. Some of his scenes are better than Logan in terms of performance.
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newhire13
newhire13 - 8/18/2024, 7:40 AM
@ObserverIO - His skills just elevates this stuff so much. Like his monologue to Deadpool was absolutely outstanding. I just watched it again and I’m like “How was he able to get himself so riled up in such a convincing way?” Especially since he def had to do it multiple times without losing steam. It was brutal but captivating.
DrReedRichards
DrReedRichards - 8/18/2024, 5:59 AM
"When those films are on, there’s always a bit of me [as Stryker] and they never pay me any money."

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Blergh
Blergh - 8/18/2024, 6:09 AM
I don’t quite get his take here, he can’t knock it for making money but it dilutes the waters?

I do understand the argument of MCU movies being a bad influence over studio movies but that’s not really an argument against the MCU for me. They’re doing something successful, revived a concept that works well for them and tell their stories in that framework.
Do other studios attempt to replicate Marvels success by copying what they think works? Yeah
elgaz
elgaz - 8/18/2024, 6:10 AM
I don’t blame superhero movies for cinema’s downturn. If anything, they’ve probably helped keep it afloat for as long as it has although these artistic types like Scorsese and so on will look down their nose at superhero fare. It’s more likely due to astronomical cinema prices, and rising quality of tv shows and home media equipment.
elgaz
elgaz - 8/18/2024, 6:10 AM
@elgaz - not to mention, a Hollywood that is rapidly running out of fresh ideas for movies.
Cass
Cass - 8/18/2024, 6:18 AM
@elgaz - I think a few people have said or at least thought it by this point. But I feel like video games are gearing up to be the next thing for Hollywood to go through.

Original cinema is quite rare nowadays and Cox is right in that TV is doing a better job of that right now.

There’s a lot of reasons for that though and I’m not sure I’d put it all down to comic book movies.
TDKRnry88
TDKRnry88 - 8/18/2024, 7:47 AM
@Cass - I wouldn't put it down to comic book movies at all. Look at all the reboots of non comic book/superhero properties that have been made or announced in the past few years. And it's not just for cinemas. TV does it too. Hollywood is scared of original ideas because they don't have a built-in fanbase. And even then, a lot of movies that the more "artistic" filmmakers direct are adaptations of pre-existing material i.e. books.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 8/18/2024, 6:19 AM
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I mean , I get what he is saying to an extent but I feel like you shouldn’t criticize something if you haven’t even seen it or even keep up with the genre by saying it’s essentially “the same old thing” everytime…

You can say that about pretty much every film since there’s so only so many stories in the world and we just essentially get variations on them.

Also , of course it’s atleast partly motivated by money since it’s a business at the end of the day which people may not like but it’s true…

Everyone’s gotta eat but that doesn’t mean actors like Ryan Reynolds or Hugh Jackman who have genuine love for their characters can’t also be motivated by the creativity too , thinking it’s just the former is so cynical..sigh.

Also with all due respect to Mr Cox since he’s a great actor but if this man was offered a comic book movie with a lot of money then I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes it also.
S8R8M
S8R8M - 8/18/2024, 6:21 AM
So he wants to get paid?
MikeyL
MikeyL - 8/18/2024, 6:28 AM
So…. He hates that they’re just making films to make money, but is also mad that he’s not getting more money for being in one of said films? Old man shouts at sky
fanboy03191
fanboy03191 - 8/18/2024, 6:41 AM
These old school actors and directors need a damn reality check. Cinema is entertainment. They need to get off their high horses and realize that’s all it ever has been, and ever will be. We got to the movies to enjoy and be entertained. I for one, was very entertained by Deadpool and Wolverine. All actors are are the modern day jesters. They need to get off their high horse and stop acting like they’re giving us some divine gift.
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 8/18/2024, 7:08 AM
I mean it’s not all about money… sure it helps! But Reynolds had multiple talented directors on board to make this, and if it was all about money he’d of made it work. He only really did when his close friend Levy stepped on board.
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 8/18/2024, 7:32 AM
As a Deadpool hater.....I simply agree. (He does sound mad bitter though idk.) 🤭
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 8/18/2024, 7:47 AM
@RitoRevolto - Deadpool and Wolverine as Martin Scorsese said before is just a roller coster ride of fun it's not really cinema. The characters and story of that film are weak AF but its so fun. A lot of people love roller coaster rides and thats fine too. People nowadays go to cinema for events not for good films and thats why these legacy actors and directors are bitter.

But with inflation and cost of movie tickets so high, even movie fanatics like myself can't see every film we want to. I've skipped Longlegs and am going to skip Alien Romulus and Cuckoo too just because it's not really in my budget to see all the films I want to anymore at the theaters.
TDKRnry88
TDKRnry88 - 8/18/2024, 7:52 AM
@mastakilla39 - Deadpool & Wolverine is cinema. Just not prestige cinema. Goofy comedies that are silly as f*** but make you & others laugh & have a good time is cinema. Dramas that make you think or cry are cinema. Horror movies that have your heart racing or make you recoil in disgust or fear or even excitement are cinema. Any movie that makes you express any kind of emotion is cinema. Good cinema or bad cinema. And on that note, I've used my weekly allotment of that word. Need a new synonym for the week...
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 8/18/2024, 8:02 AM
@mastakilla39 - Not a fan of roller coasters, so there's my problem. 😐

Re: the inflation of ticket prices, that shit sucks. It's $15 for a ticket where I am vs the $8 it used to be.
Thing94
Thing94 - 8/18/2024, 7:56 AM
Brian, you had a good career. STFU, lol
LeonNova
LeonNova - 8/18/2024, 8:07 AM
This guy sounds miserable, he’s always hating on someone or something
CAPTAINPINKEYE
CAPTAINPINKEYE - 8/18/2024, 8:08 AM
I went to the theatre with my wife and two kids. We got popcorn and drinks. $110.00!
This is why we only go 2-3 times a year. Way cheaper to stay home, rent a movie and throw a bag in the microwave.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 8/18/2024, 8:09 AM
When those films are on, there’s always a bit of me [as Stryker] and they never pay me any money.
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