SNOW WHITE: Rumored New Details About "The Bandits" And Rachel Zegler's Take On The Disney Princess Revealed

SNOW WHITE: Rumored New Details About "The Bandits" And Rachel Zegler's Take On The Disney Princess Revealed

We have more rumoured details about Disney's divisive Snow White remake, including intel on the Bandits set to replace the Seven Dwarfs and Rachel Zegler's "independent, liberal socialist." Check it out...

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By JoshWilding - Aug 31, 2023 04:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Disney
Source: SFFGazette.com

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs was released in 1937 and ended up being a big part of what put Walt Disney's name on the map. A wave of what have become beloved animated classics soon followed, including Pinocchio, Fantasia, and Dumbo (and that only in the next three or four years alone). 

It's inevitable that certain parts of movies like these won't have aged well but, as we saw in The Little Mermaid, a few tweaks here and there can fix those. For some reason, Disney has deemed Snow White particularly problematic, hence why Marc Webb's upcoming live-action movie is looking to fix much of what wasn't broken. 

Both the Seven Dwarfs and The Prince have been ditched, and comments from lead star Rachel Zegler have only served to make the backlash worse.

Now, we have rumoured details (via SFFGazette.com) about "The Bandits," including the fact Snow White's new love interest is not a Prince, but Jonathan, a member of a group that's clearly akin to Robin Hood's Merry Men. 

The comment bound to send the internet into a frenzy, however, comes when we learn "Snow White herself is an independent, liberal socialist." In this version of the classic tale, it appears she and these Bandits will lead a revolution against the Evil Queen. 

That's probably not what many Disney fans were hoping for from a live-action Snow White and it sounds at least somewhat similar to the drastically different approach taken in Universal Pictures' Snow White and the Huntsman. 

In terms of confirmed cast members, the movie stars Zegler as Snow White, Gal Gadot as the Evil Queen, Ansu Kabia as the Huntsman, Martin Klebba as Grumpy, and Andrew Burnap as Jonathan. 

Webb helms the reboot from a screenplay by Barbie scribe Greta Gerwig and playwright Erin Cressida Wilson. While there have been talks of a release date delay, Snow White is currently scheduled to release on March 22, 2024.

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dracula
dracula - 8/31/2023, 4:51 AM
this will bomb harder than little mermaid
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 8/31/2023, 8:03 AM
@dracula - Movie should be called "Brown Beans and her 7 them/they companions". This has to be Disney's 1st parody movie it can't be considered a faithful adaptation....
dragon316
dragon316 - 8/31/2023, 9:23 AM
@dracula - little mermaid was true exact for race swap mermaids and aerial sisters it was still better lion king live action
dragon316
dragon316 - 8/31/2023, 9:24 AM
@mastakilla39 - marvel black widow ?
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 8/31/2023, 4:59 AM
They're bandits? The dwarves were honest, hard-working miners. This is a character assassination on all seven of them.
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 8/31/2023, 7:01 AM
@ObserverIO - One with hypersomnia, one's an introvert, one's too extroverted, anger issues, allergies, one seems a little touched in the head, and the overbearing one. Doesn't matter if they're hard working decent folk, let's make them michiefs instead.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/31/2023, 7:33 AM
@ObserverIO - Yeah. They were afraid the Dwarfs were too offensive....somehow. so instead they turned them into normal sized criminals. Much better. Lol
CoHost
CoHost - 8/31/2023, 5:22 AM
People, just ignore this and go watch something that makes you happy. For me, it's The Sopranos.
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 8/31/2023, 5:35 AM
Now I'm not on the side of the fragile brotherhood who seem to cry on every disney remake article, but they got a point with this one 😩😭.

This isn't even snow white anymore 💀
Matchesz
Matchesz - 8/31/2023, 5:49 AM
@TheClunges - Dont look up.
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 8/31/2023, 5:44 AM
Josh is hungry again…
Radders
Radders - 8/31/2023, 5:52 AM
So not Snow White, gotcha
MosquitoFarmer
MosquitoFarmer - 8/31/2023, 6:11 AM
When I saw Snow White & The Huntsman in theaters back in 2012 (my mommy wanted to go to the movies), I thought it was fairly enjoyable. Having said that, I completely forgot it existed until I saw it mentioned above...

But this movie so far... oof. Way to botch the classic that even the gremlins loved.
Thing94
Thing94 - 8/31/2023, 6:18 AM
Hahahaha!! Independent liberal socialist!! Disney I hope you tank so far you see the Mole Man underground!!!
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 8/31/2023, 7:19 AM
@Thing94 - Y'all are so incredibly gullible. It's really remarkable. Just whipped into a frenzy anytime a Redditor gets high and makes some shit up.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/31/2023, 7:35 AM
@ClintThaHamster - It was a quote from the star of the movie.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 8/31/2023, 8:10 AM
@CorndogBurglar - Is it? Can you find the source? Because I looked and I cannot.
Thing94
Thing94 - 8/31/2023, 8:29 AM
@ClintThaHamster - Huh? What? Are you a liberal socialist too?
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 8/31/2023, 9:01 AM
@Thing94 - I am, yes. Unlike the character of Snow White, who is highly unlikely to exist in a world where an economic term like "socialist" would have any meaning.
Thing94
Thing94 - 8/31/2023, 9:42 AM
@ClintThaHamster -
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 8/31/2023, 10:35 AM
@Thing94 - Got me there.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/31/2023, 12:03 PM
@ClintThaHamster - So, a couple things. I got it from this very article:

"comments from lead star Rachel Zegler have only served to make the backlash worse."

"The comment bound to send the internet into a frenzy, however, comes when we learn "Snow White herself is an independent, liberal socialist." 

After you asked me to find the source I thought, "he's got a point. Articles here are not always accurate."

So I went and searched online (Snow White Rachel Zegler quote about liberal socialist). What I found is that she did not say those exact words. BUT....what she described Snow White as in this movie is 100% liberal trending qualities. She didn't even try to defend it when asked if her Snow White was going to be "PC". She said yes, because that's what it needed.

The socialist comments are coming from the idea that the 7 Dwarfs will be bandits that rob from the rich and give to the poor.

She also described Snow White as not needing a man to rescue her.

So, while she didn't say these exact words (independent, liberal socialist) in the interview, it's exactly what she describes.

If you search Google there So many sites reporting on this I'm really not sure how you weren't able to find even one. But here's a link:

https://pursuenews.com/liberal-socialist-in-this-version-snow-white-movie-reportedly-changes-disney-princess-motives-details-on-love-interest-the-bandits-role-explained/

Like I said, this is just one. There are many, many more sites reporting on this. Some down the middle, and other slanting to one side or the other. I tried to pick a pretty middle ground one, but if you search and read some more you'll see what I mean.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/31/2023, 12:34 PM
@CorndogBurglar - Did she really say that that was what was needed? lol. I think that's a silly thing to say and also, well, not really needed, because I think it's kinda already been done before with the character.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 8/31/2023, 12:35 PM
@CorndogBurglar - "If you search Google there So many sites reporting on this I'm really not sure how you weren't able to find even one."

I found those, for sure, just none attributing that quote to Zegler, which apparently is because she didn't say "Liberal socialist." Yes, her comments imply independent, but, who cares? You are not going to get a female protagonist in any mainstream children's entertainment that isn't independent, nor should you.

"She didn't even try to defend it when asked if her Snow White was going to be "PC". She said yes, because that's what it needed."

Okay, but what does Snow White look like if not PC? Should Doc be dropping the N-bomb? Should Dopey slap Snow White on the ass? What are y'all looking for out of this movie?

"The socialist comments are coming from the idea that the 7 Dwarfs will be bandits that rob from the rich and give to the poor."

Okay, but that's not socialism. That's Robin Hood. Socialism is a progressive taxation structure that adequately funds public services. The US Military is socialism. The UK's NHS is socialism. The The US Highway system is socialism. It's not a bad thing in and of itself, but that's beside the point, as "Socialism" is a meaningless concept in the context of a children's fairytale.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 8/31/2023, 12:36 PM
@dagenspear - Here's the full quote:

“People are making these jokes about ours being the PC Snow White, where it’s like, yeah, it is — because it needed that,” the actress said. “It’s an 85-year-old cartoon, and our version is a refreshing story about a young woman who has a function beyond ‘Someday My Prince Will Come.'”
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/rachel-zegler-snow-white-politically-correct-stressful-west-side-story-press-1235242520/
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/31/2023, 1:29 PM
@ClintThaHamster - Like I said, been done with this version. Only thing that's really needed, to me, is to make her more proactive and such, basically just refine all the more simplistic silly elements of the original movie, and expand on it's own story, to me. No need, to me, to pretend this is unique in it's approach.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/31/2023, 1:33 PM
@dagenspear - Yeah, that piece isn't in the article I linked, but I saw it in at least 2 others.

She's come under fire for comments she made about her role in West Side Story and how she's glad they kept her role as a Latino character like the original, because it's important that they stay true to the character. But then she takes a role thats race swapped with Snow White, and fundamentally change her in many ways lol.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/31/2023, 1:38 PM
@ClintThaHamster - But by saying people feel the need to rob from the queen means they aren't being taxed adequately. Which in turn means she's Socialist if they are going out of their way to rob from the queen and give back to the people. That's the point.

"Okay, but what does Snow White look like if not PC? Should Doc be dropping the N-bomb? Should Dopey slap Snow White on the ass? What are y'all looking for out of this movie?"

You're really stretching here and missing the point. What wasn't PC about the original film? Why did it NEED to be fixed? That's the point. It was already PC. Yet, she thinks it needs to be fixed.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/31/2023, 1:48 PM
@ClintThaHamster - Her whole PC quote is her trying to justify all the changes being made to the character. Being race swapped. Making her not care about falling love. Making her not needing a man to save her. Making her care about rising to power.

None of those things were a part of Snow White's character. Quite the opposite. And the crazy thing is, it's not wrong for a female to care about falling in love. It's not a bad thing to be rescued by a man. It's not a bad thing to be white. And now we see things going in the opposite direction and seeing females saving men in movies. Which is also fine. But why is it so bad for a female to be saved by a man all of a sudden, but a man being saved by a female is okay?

So why did any of those things need changed?

It's also funny when considering her comments about her character from Westside Story, where she talks about how important it is to stay true to the character. It's no coincidence that her character in Westside Story was originally Latino, so she doesn't need changed.

And look, I'm not even saying anything about race swapping other than I'm against it in any form. It just shouldn't be a thing.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 8/31/2023, 1:51 PM
@CorndogBurglar - "But by saying people feel the need to rob from the queen means they aren't being taxed adequately. Which in turn means she's Socialist if they are going out of their way to rob from the queen and give back to the people. That's the point."

By this definition, would you say that Robin Hood is also a socialist story? The core of Robin Hood's activities is that he robs from the rich and gives to the poor. Is he a socialist? I know the answer, but I'm genuinely curious about your POV.

"What wasn't PC about the original film? Why did it NEED to be fixed?"

The story of a helpless young woman, taken in by a group of lonely men who earns her keep the only way she knows how, by cooking and cleaning? Where the ONLY other woman in the story conspires to murder her because she's beautiful, and eventually succeeds? Where the young woman is saved when a man walks by, sees the dead body of a woman he saw one time a year earlier, and KISSES that corpse? And then the woman is so grateful that she marries the man who just kissed a dead body? Nothing suspect or outdated there, no sir.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/31/2023, 2:15 PM
@ClintThaHamster - It's tricky because he wasn't robbing from the rich, like so many claim. He was robbing from the tax collectors and then redistributing the money back to the people.

In one regard you can say redistribution is not socialism. But what matters is the motivation. If the people weren't being taxed unfairly to begin with then he likely wouldn't be doing this. (Because if he was he would just be another criminal at that point.) But he wasn't really just redistributing. He was correcting a wrong, in his mind because he believes that the people weren't being taxed fairly to begin with. They were being taxed too much and nothing was being given back, like used in your examples. Roads not being fixed and all that. But we're also talking about medieval times where Socialism wasn't a thing. They didn't have police, or fire departments, or ambulances, or roads to upkeep (aside from maybe clearing them of rocks? Lol).

So fundamentally, yeah, I would say he was a Socialist, but only on the grounds that the king was charging much more than was needed to run his kingdom and keep people safe. It's hard to place a Socialism label on that time period. Much like with Snow White. But if you break it down to the very basics in both stories, the kingdom is a monarchy, and the heroes are basically supporting the very base idea of Socialism.

For your second point, we're talking about medieval times, or at least the Renaissance. Yes, women's roles were to cook and clean and care for their children. It's how it was back then. Why are we trying to apply modern day issues to a story that takes place so long ago?
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/31/2023, 2:39 PM
@ClintThaHamster - Being a maid is outdated? Come on now.

Changing the overly simplistic narrative doesn't automatically mean it needs to be fixed. Just expanded upon. The exact same story can happen, and has happened in other adaptions, with more complexity added to it.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 8/31/2023, 2:46 PM
@CorndogBurglar - "It's hard to place a Socialism label on that time period. Much like with Snow White."

Word, we can agree on all that. So many folks say "Socialism!" to describe just anything they don't like, but that's clearly not the case here.

"Why are we trying to apply modern day issues to a story that takes place so long ago?"

Because this isn't a documentary or an historical drama. It's a kids movie about a girl having a magical adventure. There are plenty of "dark" fairy tales being made, and I'm glad they are. Movies like the aforementioned Spirited Away, but also Tideland, Beasts of the Southern Wild, The Fall, etc, all show children in real peril, dealing with real issues. They're dark and sad and beautiful.

But this is Disney. They don't push boundaries, they conform to current societal norms, and current societal norms are that little girls shouldn't be given role models who are subservient or helpless, and whose only real value is their physical beauty and the domestic labor they can provide for the men in their lives.

And if parents are dead-set on providing helpless, subservient role models for their children, GREAT NEWS! There's 100 years of cinema to draw on that teach those very lessons. But society has moved on, and Disney, who is interested in making money from society, is moving on, too.
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