GHOSTRIDER SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE: Why Bad to Terrible CBMs Are Important

GHOSTRIDER SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE: Why Bad to Terrible CBMs Are Important

Well everyone has ripped Ghostrider Spirit of Vengeance to shreds and honestly it’s well deserved after seeing the movie for myself. So I’m not here to review the movie, but I want to instead examine and talk about bad CBMs and how they can be very helpful.

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By ToughGrappler - Feb 17, 2012 09:02 PM EST
Filed Under: Ghost Rider



I’m sure you’ve all heard the saying we can learn more from failure than from victory, well that saying goes along with the subject at hand. Every movie has flaws even the best of movies, as humans were are not perfect, so mistakes and mishaps are going to happen, from bad movies like Green Lantern and Jonah Hex to fantastic films like The Dark Knight or X-men First Class. Now what’s good and bad varies from person to person, some people love Ironman 2 and others will say it’s a terrible film, but as a whole a movie is going to be received as good, great and fantastic to bad, terrible and atrocious.



Honestly I believe unless the studio wants it this way, no one sets out to make a bad product, they want to put out the best material they can for an audience but many things can prevent that from happening. Bad casting, bad script to bad directing and studio influence, I mean you can have the greatest script in the world but if the actors are not right for the part then it can all fall apart.


A lot of work goes into making films even bad movies. With so many comic book movies being put out these days, especially superhero related movies the pressure is on big time. There was a time when superhero movies were seen as a joke and even today to some they still are, but they’ve made there mark and people love superheroes, even people who will never pick up a comic book will go see the movies based on these enduring characters.

Comic Book Movies are the biggest thing in Hollywood right now; we have at least 3 to 5 of them come out a year. The problem is that now we have so much that’s it’s almost overbearing, and with so many coming out, every one of them is trying to outdo the other, it’s like a race you almost don’t have time to take a breather.


With that being said, every studio and distributer wants to make a comic book related movie and not all for the right reasons. Guys like Chris Nolan simply want to make a good movie period; while others like say Fox and Sony want to make a quick cash in and put out a crappy product. Let’s not forget that even bad movies make big bucks these days, Michael Bays Transformers movies are a good examples of terrible movies making a ton of money. Everything under the sun is getting a sequel or will be a trilogy somehow.

So with all that in mind, how can bad comic book movies be a good thing? What lessons can we learn from them?



1.As much as we love these characters and want them to succeed, we have to remember that they are products and can basically be presented in anyway the studios, directors and producers want to be. Personally I don’t think we should flock to a movie just because our favorite character is featured in the movie. I’ve said this before many times and I will say it again and again, going to the movies is a big gamble, you can hit the big one with a great movie or lose big time with a god awful movie.


2.Company Loyalty also falls into this, being strictly a Marvel fan or DC fan is not wise at all, Marvel is owned by Disney and DC by Warner Brothers, both of those giant corporations have put out good and bad material in movie form. Being loyal to one company, you are bound to be disappointed and you’ll find yourself missing out on some good stuff because of a company loyal name. So I think being open-minded and well rounded is a must, you can always discover new things and find you might like what the other company is doing.


3.Just because a movie sucks does not mean you have to hate the characters. There have been tons of book adaptations that I’ve hated, but that does not stop me from still enjoying the source material to the fullest, in fact it helps me appreciate it more. Good and bad movies are going to happen it’s just a fact we all have to face.


4.Last but not least, learning more about movies and how they are made is important. The more knowledge you gain the better you’ll be a spotting and pointing out things that will help determine if a movie is good or bad. A couple years back I had little to no knowledge on how movies were made and how they were advertised etc but now that’s changed and it had to happen. I think it’s important because the more you know the better off you’ll be. Having an opinion and voicing it is important, if a review can convince a person to see a great move and avoid seeing a crappy film, then I think that’s a job well done. The more opinions out there the better. This can also help the movie studios know what to do and what not to do and both sides can help improve.
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ArtisticErotic
ArtisticErotic - 2/17/2012, 10:04 PM
I agree especially with point number 1, I don't flock to a movie just because my favorite character is in it.
Wolverine19742
Wolverine19742 - 2/18/2012, 3:43 PM
Well written. I agree completely.
yankeemanf
yankeemanf - 2/18/2012, 10:33 PM
i agree totally
MercMatt
MercMatt - 2/18/2012, 11:02 PM
This was a good article. But I fall into the category of people who see a comic book movie is in theaters, and I just have to watch it. I'm no company loyalist, so I'm all for anything CBM related. Enjoyed the read, man. Cheers!
dezdigi
dezdigi - 2/19/2012, 9:40 AM
Everyone rips the film critics on this site, but reviews are a good indication of whether I will or will not like a movie. If it's got 15% on the Tomato meter, it's probably a POS!
JasonCYates
JasonCYates - 2/19/2012, 9:45 PM
SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!! I wasn't expecting MACBETH, but the story doesn't resolve anything for BLAZE, He agrees to help retrieve the Boy (Danny) that Rourke (the Devil) is after, because he is promised that his curse will be lifted, which it is, and in an awfully plain way I must add. After that he still stays involved? Why? what the Hell does he think he can do, and why does he care about this boy and his Mother, he just met them like a day ago, then Danny discovers he has the powers of the Devil, which apparently he had to be told this before he could use them, and does so by giving Blaze his curse back to defeat Rourke, w/o even asking, so it's not like Blaze sacrifices his humanity for the greater good, it's just thrust back upon him with some changes. If the kid has the powers of the Devil, why doesn't he defeat the bad guys himself, why would he give Blaze back the one thing he spent the entire movie stating he does not want? Then Blaze is OK with it because now apparently he can feel the angel ZARATHOS, the Rider once was, upon him? Granted now he has more control over it and can change day or night and has some kinda healing/resurrection gift, but in the end he's only slightly better off than when he started. I wish the kid had turned all the power back on the Devil to send him to Hell, fighting fire with fire, and kept the Ghost Rider curse for himself, since he seems to like THE RIDER, and in another movie he is played by a teen actor and takes over for Blaze, which would have been a more satisfying resolution. Then they could be preparing for a MIDNIGHT SONS film!!
Rocketico
Rocketico - 2/21/2012, 5:17 AM
Hi, color me confused but why is Batman Begins and Punisher on the list. And Tom Jane as Punisher got a lot of crap for him being, I guess "soft" is the word. But it made sense to me, the first movie he would be out to Punish the bad guy, he killed his family and it was a PG-13 movie. As he realizes killing one "bad guy" won't make the world better he grows darker and colder and begins more of the Punisher we know today. And any Nolan movie is good, not just as a comic movie or mindf*ck, but as a story, and how he puts it all together. Even if you didn't particularly enjoy the movies they were way beyond all the other B and C movies on the list.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 3/11/2012, 3:01 PM
I'm gonna be off topic and gonna come out and say that I personally disagree and I thought Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance was a great movie and just pure fun
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