Anne Rice Discusses Lestat, Twilight and Robert Downey, Jr.

Anne Rice Discusses Lestat,  Twilight and Robert Downey, Jr.

The Vulture spin-off from NY Magazine has posted an in depth interview with author Anne Rice about her new novel, Of Love and Evil, as well as The Vampire Chronicles and rumors of Robert Downey, Jr. playing Lestat.

By EdGross - Dec 01, 2010 02:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Horror
Source: Vulture

Following are Vampire Chronicles specific excerpts from the interview:




VULTURE: How do you reconcile those themes in The Vampire Chronicles with what you’ve called your “personal search and grieving for God?”

ANNE RICE: Well, they reflected what I felt as an atheist. I was a real uncomfortable atheist. I failed as an atheist. Because I really believed in God. But The Vampire Chronicles reflect that searching. I felt lost in the dark, cursed, cast out of the Catholic Church — not that anybody had asked me to leave — but I felt that I was in a dark world, a meaningless universe, trying to be an atheist, trying to believe everything was random. And I expressed my agony and rebellion through Lestat and Louis and Armand and the other characters. I was never the cold, successful atheist that Gabrielle is, for example. I was always more the raging atheist like Louis or Lestat, saying I still believe in goodness and I want to be good and I know I’m supposed to be cursed, but there’s got to be something, there’s got to be some way to be meaningful and good. And all that reflected my own feelings, my own belief. The art itself was vampirism. The vampire was the art — let me see if I can put this neatly. The Chronicles themselves were about the search, the refusal to accept that it’s a dark meaningless world. And I’m still obsessed with this. I believe in God now, but I’m obsessed with, how do we live a good life? How do we serve God? How do we know what he wants of us, if all around us we see corruption in the churches, disagreement — I’m still obsessed with the very same things. But there came a time when I couldn’t do any more with those questions in The Vampire Chronicles, because you’re dealing in that world with people who drink blood and kill. So there’s only so much you can do [laughs] and I wanted to move out of that. I wanted to open it up and get with characters like Toby, you know, who have a real chance to do something meaningful and good, and can wrestle with the very same problems, but in a world where there are possibilities of transcendence. There never was any transcendence for Louis or Lestat or Armand. There couldn’t be.

VULTURE: Do you have a take on the way in which Twilight serves Stephenie Meyer’s Mormon beliefs?

ANNE RICE: I don’t know enough about Mormon beliefs to see it in that context. What I saw there was woman’s romance. And I don’t mean that in a denigrating way. I saw the same thing that works in the work of Charlotte and Emily Bronte, the idea of a young and vulnerable young woman falling in love with essentially an older, stronger, mysterious person. In Jane Eyre, Mr. Rochester is threatening but he’s also protective and loving, and eventually comes around to be totally subdued and tamed by Jane. And that’s really what I saw in Twilight, in the two movies I saw. Young girl falls in love with this boy who’s capable of killing people, he’s a vampire, but he really loves her and protects her. And it was the same old story. Of course, there’s been a lot of writing in the world about why that particular romance functions. Is it about a young girl and her relationship to her father, as people have argued? Is it about the weaker feminine in love with the stronger masculine? It has a lot of deep layers of meaning, and I think Stephenie Meyer hit on that again in the Twilight books. And she did this stroke of genius thing of having these menacing vampires go to high school. [Laughs.] Which, in a way, I thought was incredibly ridiculous. Because what immortal would spend his time going to high school over and over like that? Go to Katmandu or Memphis or Rio De Janiero or Rome! But it was a stroke of genius, because it gave great pleasure to millions of kids. So its’ very interesting. But I think what makes it work is that old tried-and-true woman’s romance formula, which is rooted in psychology.

VULTURE: There’s a sort of martyrdom in the Twilight vampires — the good vampires practice this sort of chastity in abstaining from killing and the pleasures of the world. So they become these near-saints, in spite of their nature.

ANNE RICE: I do think, though, that runs through all vampire literature. Any book about vampires, whether it’s Charlaine Harris’x True Blood series on HBO, or Stephenie Meyer or my books, we always have these characters struggling with their desires, abstaining, becoming chaste, that’s what makes them complicated and interesting. And the vampires in True Blood try to drink that junk out of the bottle instead of killing people. And we always applaud them, because that’s a metaphor for how we struggle with our own destructive impulses. But I see what you mean. I mean, she does it quite flamboyantly in having that good family so devoted to others and so abstaining and so forth. It’s perhaps done very clearly there for younger readers.



VULTURE: Do you think a vampire story can be told without some kind of aspect of religion?

ANNE RICE: No. I think the material is inherently about salvation, about damnation, even if your vampires are total atheists like mine, it’s about how do you be a good person, how do you transcend? I could never get away from it; I think it’s built into the material. Even if you take out the magic of crosses and holy water, as I did, and say that doesn’t work, you’re still left with the vampire being a human monster and wanting to be human. My vampires, you might say, were secular humanists, and they were struggling with how to be good on those terms.

VULTURE: I heard that Universal was looking into rebooting The Vampire Chronicles as a film franchise.

ANNE RICE: I hope there will be, but I don’t have anything firm to report. A lot of interest, a lot of talk. The rights are all mine; they don’t belong to a studio anymore, they belong to me. It’s been a long struggle, but we have a lot of interest and there’s a lot of talks going on, so we’ll see. I’m hoping. I’m hoping that I will have something to announce soon.

VULTURE: You had strong feelings about who should play Lestat in the 1994 film. Do you now?

ANNE RICE: No. I want to see what they come up with. We have so many new actors today that we did not have then. There are so many brilliant actors coming out of Australia and Britain — Richard Armitage and Matthew McFadyen and Simon Woods — they’re just everywhere, really brilliant wonderful guys who articulate beautifully, who are physically beautiful themselves. There’s a time in America when that wasn’t so. There were not that many who could play roles like Louis and Lestat and Armand. Because our great actors were dominated by people like Al Pacino, Dustin Hoffman, Robert De Niro, and Harvey Keitel. And they were wonderful, but they were so associated with New York street life and vernacular that it was hard to imagine them making a transition to this kind of material. But that’s no longer the case thanks to BBC. All you have to do is turn on BBC to see these guys walking through Little Dorritt and The Way We Live Now and MI5 and all kinds of shows. So there’s so much talent. Like Louis, right now, he could be portrayed easily by Richard Armitage or Matt Bomer, the American actor. Matt Bomer is a beautiful, beautiful guy. He could play Louis. Armand could be played by that young actor, Max Records from Where the Wild Things Are. He’s just about the perfect age — 13 or 14 — he could play Armand. He’d be wonderful as Armand.

Now Lestat, there are a lot of people who could play Lestat. What the readers really, really, really want is they want the personality and beauty of Lestat. That’s what they want. And they get very upset when it’s not, and let’s hope the moviemakers realize how important that is, that the work doesn’t work if you don’t deliver a Lestat. I’d tell you who I think would be wonderful as Marius is Matthew McFadyen. I don’t know if you saw The Pillars of the Earth. Oh he’s wonderful — he’s in MI5 as the head spy. He’s just great. I think his voice and his eyes — that’s Marius. All he needs is a blond wig. And Ioan Gruffud and Benedict Cumberbatch — they were both in Amazing Grace. They’re both terrific. I’d love to see both of them in The Vampire Chronicles. Jamie Bamber, he’s terrific, I was just watching him last night in England’s Law & Order. I’d seen him on Battlestar Galactica, but I’d never seen him unleash that beautiful diction. So I think there are many, many actors.



VULTURE: Do you have any thoughts on the one name that’s been floated?

ANNE RICE: Robert Downey Jr.? That would be wonderful. He is a great actor. He would bring the gravitas and the wit and humor and all of that to the part, and I don’t think he’s too old. I think if he had a blond wig and makeup, he would be a wonderful Lestat. Lestat has to have the gravitas of a 200-year-old man and Robert Downey Jr. can do it. He can do anything. He’s just incredible. That would be wonderful. But I don’t know whether he’s really interested and I don’t know if that will work out. I hope so. I hope the rumors are true.

VULTURE: What do you think Lestat’s band would sound like now?

ANNE RICE: Well, it always sounded to me like Jim Morrison. That was the band I based it on — Jim Morrison’s voice, physical beauty, and the sound of that band in a song like "L.A. Woman." That’s how I imagined Lestat’s band sounding. I don’t know a lot about rock music right at this moment; I haven’t listened to a stadium band in a while. I don’t know the latest stuff. I really don’t know. The main thing in emphasizing Morrison is that I’m emphasizing hard rock. It’s really acid rock. It’s not lightweight rock music and there has to be a good voice at the helm. Morrison had an exceptionally good voice for a rock singer. But modernizing it? Sure, whatever. Bring it on.
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LEEE777
LEEE777 - 12/1/2010, 2:21 PM
Lets not talk about TWILIGHT lol! ; P

Nice interview!
JorEl77
JorEl77 - 12/1/2010, 2:46 PM
I agree with @LEEE.Lets not talk about Twilight either,I don't want little annoying teenie bopper girls on this site going freakin nuts,and making the comments section 2 miles long down the page.HaHaHa!!!
Real vampires (The Vampire Diaries & True Blood) suck blood,not pole!!! But it was good interview @ED!!!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 12/1/2010, 2:50 PM
JorEl77 @ Damn man, luv TRUE BLOOD!
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 12/1/2010, 3:09 PM
RDJ as Lestat? Nope. Don't like that.
nuck82
nuck82 - 12/1/2010, 3:28 PM
i would like this movie, but TOM CRUISE is the only lestat for me!!!


BruceWayneNewton
BruceWayneNewton - 12/1/2010, 3:45 PM
I dunno about RDJ for that role. I'd rather see somebody like a Jude Law or an actor similar to that. Tom Cruise was, by far, the best character in that movie.

AlexDeLarge87
AlexDeLarge87 - 12/1/2010, 4:03 PM
Michael Fassbender or Jude Law would great Lestat!:) I would like to see them as vampires! Thou i prefer Fassbender or Christian Bale as Count Dracula in Marvel´s Tomb of Dracula movie (which i hope will be made soon as possible)

I love True Blood too by the way!:)
smallvillefanricky
smallvillefanricky - 12/1/2010, 5:20 PM
Think we have had enough vampires for 1 decade
nearmint67
nearmint67 - 12/1/2010, 5:29 PM
I enjoyed Rice's books, but I prefer my vampires a bit more...evil. I need a Dracula movie that follows Stoker's narrative and jettisons Coppola's "love jones" aspects.
LOL
LOL - 12/1/2010, 8:42 PM
amen.... I HATE Twilight.... the books were bad enough, but when the movies came..... UGH!
AlexDeLarge87
AlexDeLarge87 - 12/1/2010, 10:01 PM
The Tomb of Dracula could raise the vampires from grave once again!:D... And it would be awesome!
I Think Guillermo del Toro, James McTeigue, David Slade, Mike Newell, Julie Taymor or Darren Aronofsky would be great as the director!

Chris Bale or Mike Fassbender as Count Dracula
Charlie Hunnam or Henry Cavill as Frank Drake
Sienna Miller or Keira Knightley as Rachael Van Helsing
Derek Jacobi, Liam Neeson or Anthony Hopkins as Dr. Quincy Harker
Gary Oldman as Anton Lupeski (The leader of satanic cult)
Idris Elba or Wesley Snipes as Blade (the original version non vampire Blade with wooden knives)
Someone Indian as Taj Nital
Lynn Collins as Domini
Sienna Guillory as Lilith
John Malkovich as Deacon Frost
Mads Mikkelsen as Lord Torgo Nia
Stephen Moyer as Hannibal King
And
Paul Giamatti as Harold H. Harold

Ouh! And Ralph Fiennes, Hugo Weaving or Tim Curry as the voice of Satan
rolanddeschain
rolanddeschain - 12/2/2010, 5:51 AM
read and loved the entire vampire chronicles series (yes, even the tale of the body thief). I'm not too familiar with some of the names Rice mentioned to plug in for her characters, but the Matt Bomer one as Louis is a good match, imo. I could see Hayden Christensen (the new darth vader) as Lestat, and Johnny Depp, or even Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Armand. Marius, hmmmm.... I always saw a guy in his 40's playing him, I'd go with Ewan Mcgregor, too bad Kenneth Branagh is a li'l too old, or I'd pick him first
rolanddeschain
rolanddeschain - 12/2/2010, 5:55 AM
On a side note, I wish the interviewer would have asked her on her opinion of the Laurel K. Hamilton- Anita Blake series, which should be made into the next vampire movie series, imo. For those who haven't read it, you're missing out, that Twilight sh*t doesn't hold a candle to that series, more adult themed, and set in modern times, so that the vampires are more adjusted to living in our modern era, and not speaking in shakesperean vernacular, and dressing in frilly shirts, lol.
KUSlacker
KUSlacker - 12/2/2010, 6:53 AM
the anita blake series is sick...but anne rice is the tops!!
Shaman
Shaman - 12/2/2010, 6:56 AM
Spectacular interview!!! I love it when they go indepth with the slightest aspects!!! BRAVO!!!

As for question #4, Religion certainly can be excluded from any concept, but not spirituality. To remove spirituality would be to make a cake without milk or eggs. Sure in our day and age it probably can be done but it would never be as relatable, appealing or endearing. Spirituality is as much a part of our selves as the water we drink. Wether we realise it or not, we can't live without it.

KUSlacker- As writers go, i highly prefer Laurell K Hamilton to Anne Rice. I'm not a heavy reader and Anne Rice just loses me everytime where Laurell grips me and pulls me in like no other. Maybe Anne is a better visionary but i feel Laurell is the best storyteller.
rolanddeschain
rolanddeschain - 12/2/2010, 8:20 AM
Shaman@ I think Laurel K. Hamilton just has captured the modern era and how vampires could possibly adapt to the modern world better than Anne Rice, but I love Anne Rice's sense of vampire romanticism, and spiritual conflict better. The Anita Blake series hits those aspects, too, but not as good as the Vampire chronicles did, imo. I'm hooked on the Anita Blake series, though. Why they aren't pushing for a movie series from that is foolish, you have all the elements: vampire action, vampire sex, vampire/monster killer, who is morally conflicted, shady/scary human hitman(Edward), other monsters (lycanthropes, evil spirits), and the main character is a strong female role! C'mon, that is a money lineup if I ever saw one
Shaman
Shaman - 12/2/2010, 8:44 AM
rolanddeschain- Couldn't agree with you more!!! Anne definitely delves into the psyche & emotions alot more. I guess a tad too much for my tastes. I like it to a certain extent but after a while i just want the story to progress, ya know? But that's just cause i'm really not a book reading fan at all :)

Oh yeah, damn right they should make a Club Vampyre film!!! That would be AWESOME :))
Gr8Frappe
Gr8Frappe - 12/2/2010, 10:09 AM
If its not this

then I don't want to see it turned into a movie. I've tried to read some of her emopire books and eventhough they're supposed to be part of the same series they only happen to have the same characters in them. Their powers and histories are totally different... almost as if she didn't even read her own work before she did another one.


Brian Lumley's Necroscope series actually had real evil blood sucking vampires. I don't like either The Vampire Diaries & Tru Blood. I saw the entire 1st season of Tru, and it was all just a bunch of talking and nudity, not that there is ever anything wrong with seeing a nice nude body, and then in the last scene for all of 30 seconds (MAX) something happened. Then we get the "joy" of hearing all about it next episode. Diaries is just as bad as Toilet because the emopires are still in school being pedophiles and these idiots even get to write about it in girly little diaries, they don't even have the testosterone to call them "jourlnals!" HAHAHA!

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Shaman
Shaman - 12/2/2010, 11:54 AM
Necroscope- "they don't even have the testosterone to call them "jourlnals!"

Good one!!! LMAO ;P
rea1dea1stee1
rea1dea1stee1 - 12/2/2010, 12:31 PM
This is one film series that needs rebootin loved interview! queen of the damned sucked ass loved the books, beats any of that twi-shite crap!
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