ecksmanfan reviews Halloween II

ecksmanfan reviews Halloween II

This show was scary...scary bad! Is it wrong to laugh out loud at a horror movie?

Review Opinion
By ecksmanfan - Sep 01, 2009 12:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Horror

I'm going to go back a few years to the first "Halloween" film that Rob Zombie created. It was a decent remake of the classic and possibly the best "slasher" film out there, but it was still no where near the fore mentioned film. Skip a few years ahead and we have a completely new and re-envisioned sequel. I recently heard Rob Zombie in an interview for the SyFy channel, saying something to the effect that this is an original film and one of his main goals was to humanize Michael Myers. That is like taking Freddy Kruger and slapping a pink sweater and some plastic knives on him; it is horror movie blasphemy! That was not the only issue with this second rate horror movie: the story was bad, the acting was bad, and the whole film was bad.

I want to talk about the icon known as Michael Myers first, as this was my biggest problem with this film. Zombie "humanized" the character by allowing him to grunt and scream during his murder scenes. Now, this may not seem like a big deal, but one of the things that made the original character so terrifying was the fact that he was silent in everything he did. The only emotion you would ever see from him was maybe a head tilt. By adding this, it took away from the terror and almost made him comical. Add to this that it seemed as though every female character sucked in a tank of helium before going in to film and it's quite funny to watch. By the end of the film, I was happy to see them all killed! The character of Dr. Samuel Loomis was also ruined. He was somehow transformed into an egotistical schmuck that is obnoxious from the moment he hits the screen.

As far as the story goes, it was badly written and a bit too far out in left field, especially to be considered a part of this iconic series, old or new. As I stated earlier, this is an original story and is not a remake of the first "Halloween II" film. With the addition of young Michael and Mrs. Myers in their pointless roles, the film takes a more eccentric turn, which does not work at all.

I laughed through much of the film, thanks to the grunting and surprisingly loud slaughter of many characters. There were many scenes that were meant to scare, but you could see them coming several minutes before they actually happened. I actually enjoyed Zombie's first take on this series, but this was just a sad attempt. The very idea that a third film is already in the works, in 3-D none-the-less, makes me sick. Skip this until October 31st and have a good laugh with your friends. It's an embarrassment to such an icon.

Grade: D+

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Shadowelfz
Shadowelfz - 9/1/2009, 8:53 AM
I hear what your saying, ecksmanfan, but to enjoy this movie you have to dissociate from the original version of Michael. Zombie didnt want to just retread Myers for his series, that Michael will always belong to the original movies. Zombie wanted to create a new Michael Myers... a different take on an old character that pays tribute to the orignal without straight-out aping him. Thus, his Myers was humanized. We were able to see the factors that made him into the inhuman killer, so Zombies Myers is more of a serial killer than a boogie man. Loomis can be viewed similarly. It would be quite boring to keep him the same eccentric and persistent physchologist that followed Myers around for the first six movies, so Zombie changed the perspective on him by turning him into a opportunistic jackass.

As for the movie itself... it wasnt good, but it was a hell of a lot more entertaining than the garbage they shovel to us nowadays. "I know what you did..." franchise got old after the FIRST movie, Final Destination 1 and 2 were decent but grew shitty after that, and Saw grew stale after 3. Valentines day was terrible, and that new Pom girls movie they showed during the previews... looks horrible. It seems like Hollywood ran out of ideas after the writers strike, so all were getting is reboots, sequeals, adaptations, and occasionally, a shitty original property. So while I would have hated Halloween 2 a decade ago, its really seems better than the rubbish we got nowadays. Thats sad.
TheMyth
TheMyth - 9/1/2009, 11:23 PM
I think Rob Zombie has made a masterpiece in comparison to the old ones. I remember as a child, and I'm talking 7-8 years old, I thought Myers was [frick]ing retarded and he only got worse with successive sequels. Until Rob redid the franchise, I'd say Myers didn't even deserve to be considered along the same regards as Freddy, Jason, hell, Chucky was more intimidating to me than Myers. I haven't seen the new installment, as it's nearly impossible to get me into the theater for a horror flic of ANY kind, but I can't wait to see it.
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 9/2/2009, 3:18 PM
@ The Myth - Yeah, I actually really liked the first film Zombie did, but this second went ventures so far from the first installment, that it doesn't even seem like the same director and characters. I was very excited to see this film and I was just let down by it.

As for the Michael Myers character, I think it comes down to personal preference. Looking back at past horror figures like Freddy Kruger, Chucky, Jason, Pinhead, etc., Myers just seemed and still seems more "real" than the others and that is why I like the character so much.

@Della - i was highly disappointed in the Loomis character and how he was portrayed in this film. Pleasance was awesome! I did like McDowell in Zombie's first film though; I thought he represented the character well. Not so much here.
TheMyth
TheMyth - 9/2/2009, 4:36 PM
ecksmanfan, your right, it is a personal preference. To me, Jason is the most intimidating of the slasher icons. One of my good chums is a Freddy man the whole way. In all, it's a 'Hulk vs. Superman' argument lol.

Dellamorte, you are also correct sir, it's just that Myers is just a psychotic normal guy to me, Freddy can only hurt you if you fear him, and Chucky... well... I'd just punt his ass through a window and be done, hell, I'd hold him down and fart in his mouth first lol. Leatherface is a creepy bastard too, but Jason just seemed inescapable. When Jason got after your ass, all you could do is run away and hope some unlucky bastards fill the space between you and him.

I'm not trying to downplay or insult individuals for their enjoying the character, just my own personal view. You guys are no less cool for liking Myers lol.
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 9/2/2009, 4:44 PM
I like Jason too! I especially like him in a shiny silver mask and swinging a girl in a sleeping bag over his head and violently slamming her to the ground. Awesome.
TheMyth
TheMyth - 9/2/2009, 6:42 PM
LMAO, yeah, that was Jason X. In the 7th installment is where that kill originated. He grabbed a bitch up like that and slammed her into a tree lol.

Body count for slasher icons(not including reboots)
Jason - 169
Freddy - 33
Micheal - 71

Hmmm, looks like Jason wins, lol.
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 9/3/2009, 1:12 AM
Haha! I can't tell you how many times I hit the rewind button and watched that scene...Never gets old.

I think about 1/3 of Jason's kill count came from the rave scene in Freddy vs Jason.

Love me a good slasher flick.
Shadowelfz
Shadowelfz - 9/3/2009, 2:24 PM
Myth- Haha thats exactly why I thought Myers was the scariest of the slashers... he was the only one who seemed plausable. The others were like ghost stories, while Myers could actually have been out there. That creeped me out as a kid ;)
TheMyth
TheMyth - 9/3/2009, 6:46 PM
Shadowelfz, lol and that's how it roll's lol. My Freddy luvin' friend is the same way. But like I said, to me, Freddy was easy to beat, just don't fear him, and he has no power over you.

Dellamorte, I've watched all the Holloween movies and Micheal is a sort of embodiment of pure evil. While much about him seems supernatural, it's actually a powerful and tangible hatred that drives him and won't allow him to die. To me, Micheal is a representation of humanity at it's worst, an example of the wrong stimulus catalyzing a psychopath of the most terrible calibur. I acknowledge a realism to him (like you said the others seem like ghost stories) in that I feel anyone under the right circumstances, or wrong circumstances I should say, can become a Micheal Myers. I think the main reason Myers doesn't intimidate me is because of that reasoning, I have never met any person who has ever been able to instill fear in me, so Micheal doesn't as he is a man driven by no supernatural means. Jason, to me, is all that, plus he is driven supernaturally, and he is a juggernaut. Most of all, it is Jason's ability to basically be everywhere. He only walks, and you think you've out distanced him, then you round the bend of a cabin Bam! now an axe is in your forehead lol.

In general, it's different strokes for different folks in this discussion. I'll only make fun of you if Freddy is scary to you lol.
CRITIC17
CRITIC17 - 9/3/2009, 11:58 PM
I laughed during this movie too...;)
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/6/2009, 3:40 PM
Aside from the characters though Myth, look at the movies. All of the Friday the 13th, yes ALL of them are just mindless slasher shit. No tension, no style, no point. Whatever you may feel about the Myers character(personally i think the original one is the best horror icon ever) you have to admit that the original Carpenter movie was 100 times better than the original Friday and all subsequent sequels. I completely agree with ecks and his review. Zombie is a [frick]ing hack who completely missed the point of the character. A silent, unstoppable, irrational killing machine with NO explanation as to why he is how he is. Whats the point in just turning the character into a Jason Vorhees or Leatherhead psycho of the week? We already have them! And they suck. Now so too does Michael Myers.
supermarioworldE
supermarioworldE - 9/7/2009, 10:46 PM
In my opinion the franchise ended with H20. It was the perfect ending for Michael Myers.
supermarioworldE
supermarioworldE - 9/9/2009, 12:18 PM
it's still better than the remakes
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