JOHN CARTER Has Earned It's Budget, Still Not Profitable But Trending In The Right Direction

JOHN CARTER Has Earned It's Budget, Still Not Profitable But Trending In The Right Direction

The reputable Forbes gives some optimism to all the John Carter faithful in it's latest report which says that the film will probably turn a profit....eventually.

By MarkJulian - Apr 03, 2012 11:04 AM EST
Filed Under: John Carter of Mars
Source: Forbes



BoxOfficeMojo reported recently that John Carter has earned $254.5 million at the box office. That's a smidgen over its $250 million dollar production budget but Forbes acknowledges that the cost of marketing has to be accounted for [it's rumored John Carter spent $100 million on marketing, giving it a cumulative budget of $350 million]. John Carter has earned a mere $66 million domestically but has earned $188 million internationally, with the film still to open in Japan later this month, several more millions are likely to be added to the film's gross.

Recently it was reported that John Carter would put Disney in the hole by $200 Million for their second fiscal quarter. The key part of that sentence being "second fiscal quarter". The film will surely go on to earn more money in Disney's third and fourth quarters and it's possible that the film could eventually turn a small profit. According to Amazon, pre-orders for the John Carter blu-ray are #1 in Science-Fiction, #2 in Action & Adventure and Fantasy and #13 overall. Forbes goes on to point out that Waterworld (1995), the film Hollywood will always view as a massive failure, with it's then colossal budget of $175 million and measly $88 million domestic earnings, actually earned $264 million when international and VHS and DVD sales figures are factored in. A similar fate could be in store for John Carter.








Running Time: 2 hours and 3 minutes
Release Date: 9 March 2012 (USA)
MPAA Rating: Rated PG-13 for intense sequences of violence and action
Starring: Taylor Kitsch, Lynn Collins, Mark Strong, Ciarán Hinds, Dominic West, James Purefoy, Thomas Haden Church and Willem Dafoe
Directed By:Andrew Stanton
Written by: Andrew Stanton (screenplay), Mark Andrews (screenplay, )Michael Chabon (screenplay) and Edgar Rice Burroughs (story "A Princess of Mars")





John Carter is a 2012 Disney-made epic science fiction film featuring John Carter, the heroic protagonist of Edgar Rice Burroughs' 11-volume Barsoom series. The film marks the centennial of the character's first appearance in 1912.

Former Confederate captain John Carter (Taylor Kitsch) is mysteriously transported to Mars ("Barsoom") where he becomes part of a conflict between the various nations of the planet, whose leaders include Tars Tarkas (Willem Dafoe) and Princess Dejah Thoris (Lynn Collins). Carter takes it upon himself to save Barsoom and its people.

The film is the live-action debut of director/writer Andrew Stanton and is co-written by Mark Andrews and Michael Chabon. It is produced by Jim Morris, Colin Wilson, and Lindsey Collins, and scored by Michael Giacchino.

The film is being distributed by Walt Disney Pictures and will be released in the United States on March 9, 2012. Filming began in November 2009 and principal photography spanned from January 2010 to July 2010. This project marks the first time that Andrew Stanton has worked on a live-action film, as his previous work includes the Pixar animated films Finding Nemo and WALL-E. The film will be released in Digital 3D and IMAX 3D formats.





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goldenavenger77
goldenavenger77 - 4/3/2012, 11:28 AM
Good to hear.
TheAmazingSpiderMan47
TheAmazingSpiderMan47 - 4/3/2012, 11:29 AM
THIS IS MADNESS ... THIS IS an example of historical bias
2gold
2gold - 4/3/2012, 11:33 AM
Thank goodness for the international market.
ThaMessenger07
ThaMessenger07 - 4/3/2012, 11:35 AM
Not like the Old Day hugh Gus? Like when you had to wait till they put it back in the Cinema! Or even further back, when you had to wait for an Apostle to come to town and read the Dead Scrolls to ya.....
drfate
drfate - 4/3/2012, 11:35 AM
gimme my damn John Carter 2! (and give it a cooler title next time, fa cryin' out loud)

and THEN I wan't my damn Conan 2!! Mamoa was totally the best guy for the role and I wanna see him kick more ass!
ninjaturtle11
ninjaturtle11 - 4/3/2012, 11:39 AM
it was horrible glad i didnt see it lol
Rothwilder
Rothwilder - 4/3/2012, 11:42 AM
Lynn Collins has the perfect build for Wonder Woman. She was looking STRONG yet beautiful
2gold
2gold - 4/3/2012, 11:44 AM
If Conan 2 happens, it better have a better script and a MUCH better director. That film was so poorly handled. Stephen Lang is a great actor but he was terrible in that. Momoa was great but half the time you could not figure out where the characters were in relation to each other or what was going on in the fight scenes. And that carriage chase scene where Conan would be even with a rider and then in the next shot, he's about 100 yards back out of NOWHERE. Both of these films suffered from director issues. Nipsel was just HORRIBLE as the director of Conan and Stanton was a little TOO in love with the character to realize he was screwing up the promotion.
BruceLeroy
BruceLeroy - 4/3/2012, 11:45 AM
Great
GreyChaos13Zero
GreyChaos13Zero - 4/3/2012, 11:47 AM
it still gots Blu-Ray/DVD sales coming at it also, great news?)
JackBauer
JackBauer - 4/3/2012, 12:02 PM
I'm glad they're being somewhat positive about the movie's earnings, but they also have to consider the theaters' piece of the pie.
headlopper
headlopper - 4/3/2012, 12:09 PM
Movie is worthy. A solid bit of film-making with a classic story! I really enjoyed it! I hope it makes ga-zillions...
ralfinader
ralfinader - 4/3/2012, 12:16 PM
I'll buy it in DVD. Hard to believe they dropped that much in advertising and failed to get across the legacy of the movie they were trying to sell. Wonder what was different in the foriegn marketing to get such a better turnout.

Problem with the Conan movie was crap direction. Mamoa made a good Conan, but the lack of a good script, and good director weigh down Conan the longer it runs. As it stands, the beginning of that movie was good, then it falls apart, maybe something as simple as a more thorough editing session could have made the flow seem less amateurish. I own the damn thing and have yet to be able to sit through that flick. I expect another Conan movie eventually, just not a sequel to that last one.
rsahadi
rsahadi - 4/3/2012, 12:34 PM
The movie hasn't even been out that long and hasn't even debuted everywhere. It just started showing in China and raked in several more million and it will be hitting Japan soon. The media saw the big price tag on this movie and wanted to strike it down way before it had a chance to succeed.
superotherside
superotherside - 4/3/2012, 12:38 PM
Hope it makes a bit more than that, so that Disney will do a sequel! :) Crossed fingers!
JohnnyKrypton
JohnnyKrypton - 4/3/2012, 12:40 PM
Well, it's already made more than Green Lantern...take that as you will...
headlopper
headlopper - 4/3/2012, 1:01 PM
@INSTANTJUSTICE - Valid points, but there's one exception -actually TWO exceptions to a crappy economy:
Booze sales and box office ticket sales.

This statistic never changes...even during the Great Depression these two industries remained profitable.

It the 'escapism' factor.
Ancar
Ancar - 4/3/2012, 1:11 PM
This movie will surprise yet, just wait and you will see. The international box office will break the count!!!
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 4/3/2012, 1:18 PM
I THOUGHT THE MOVIE WAS COOL, I'D WATCH A SEQUEL
MarkJulian
MarkJulian - 4/3/2012, 1:30 PM
@INSTANTJUSTICE Incorrect. Cinemas get a percentage of the films revenue after the second week of release.
95
95 - 4/3/2012, 1:35 PM
That poster is awesome. Who made it??

I want GODS OF MARS!!
MarkJulian
MarkJulian - 4/3/2012, 1:41 PM
@INSTANTJUSTICE Also, films make revenue from Video/DVD rental, Video/DVD retail (or sell-through), Pay per View Television, Subscription or Pay Television and Free Television. So if you want to be as thorough as you're trying to be present all the facts. What you're doing is called Hollywood Accounting and is a method studios use to keep from paying royalties to involved parties.
REDSTORM
REDSTORM - 4/3/2012, 1:45 PM
There's a typo in the title. "It's" means "it is". "Its" shows possession.
TheMyth
TheMyth - 4/3/2012, 1:55 PM
ninjaturtle11, then how do you know it was horrible? [frick]in' dumbass people...

Ralfinader, I'd say it did so well in foreign markets because they actually still read books and appreciate classics in other countries. Here in America, sorry to say, most people under the age of 20 are just stupid as [frick] and self absorbed. I was in class last week and this girl in my class didn't know people washed dishes by hand... she grew up thinking everyone in the world has a dish-washing machine. Young Americans are just mind-numbingly dumb I've discovered in my return to University at age 30. This is what I attribute to the lack of appreciation for original ideas, and the lack of original thought in general.

My God! 100 mil in marketing! Where the [frick] did it go! I think they're trying to commit fraud personally, and should be made to eat their loss for such piss poor marketing and for bad-mouthing it while it was still in its opening week.
thunderforce
thunderforce - 4/3/2012, 2:00 PM
Fantastic movie . As far as Sci-Fi fantasy swashbuckling adventure it is right up there with Star Wars and Avatar , and as the years go by it will only be loved more and more and eventually it will get the accolades it deserves and maybe even a sequel or two .
vtopa
vtopa - 4/3/2012, 2:24 PM
Such a shame that a bunch of haters trashed this flick as a flop before it was even through its first week-end. Pathetic really. I'm glad its going to make money and I hope it continues to do so such that the nay-sayers eat a healthy portion of crow.
batfan175
batfan175 - 4/3/2012, 2:42 PM
To be a profit it still needs to make 500 million overall, which it most likely won't. Sorry, but underperforming by 250 million is not a success and it's gonna be a good example for films that had too much money and not enough imagination and know-how behind them. maybe studios will think twice next time before giving such a huge budget to such a dull film. Think of all the independenta films that could've been made with 250 million dollars...sad day for cinema.
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