Justice League - From Babel to Doom with Mark Waid

Justice League - From Babel to Doom with Mark Waid

If knowledge is power, then Batman must be the most powerful being on Earth as he has discovered the weaknesses of each member of the Justice League – including Superman, Wonder Woman and Green Lantern – and developed a plan to use them against his teammates if they ever go rogue.

By EdGross - Oct 15, 2011 10:10 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League
Source: Superhero Tooniverse

As the animated adventure Justice League: Doom unfolds, that information has reached enemy hands and is being used against the group.

Set to be released on Blu-ray and DVD in February, Justice League: Doom is loosely adapted by the late Dwayne McDuffie from the classic comic book story “Tower Of Babel,” written by Mark Waid. It features the voice talents of Tim Daly as Superman, Kevin Conroy as Batman, Susan Eisenberg as Wonder Woman, Michael Rosenbaum as the Flash, Carl Lumbly as Martian Manhunter and Nathan Fillion is Green Lantern.



“I loved the idea that when you’re dealing with the Justice League of America, there’s only so many weapons you can throw at them and only so many threats that they can’t handle,” Waid reflects exlusively with Superhero Tooniverse. “So it occurred to me that information is a very slippery beast to have to fight, because you can’t punch anything. I honestly believe it came out of the fact that I had worked on the X-Men book before then and at that point I was cooking up something called The Xavier Protocols, the idea being that Charles Xavier really does have a ‘how to kill all of the mutants if you need to’ file at the back of his computer. Bringing that idea over to DC Comics, it made sense for Batman, at least the way they had categorized him for the past few years… not that Batman has a kill plan for the Justice League, but Batman has a ‘here’s-how-to-defeat-these-guys-if-they-ever-go-rogue’ plan. If Plastic Man ever goes nuts, here’s the steps we need to take him down. If Superman goes nuts, here’s how to take him down. That fits in with Batman’s natural preparedness or paranoia, depending on how you want to look at it.

“So the idea that someone could get a hold of that knowledge and turn it against the Justice League, put me in a great position,” he adds, “because some of the best Justice League stories are when the members turn upon themselves. Any team story where you can divide the team over ideological lines is great. To jump ahead, what you end up with at the conclusion after the Justice League beats the threat is that half the team gets why Batman did this and half the people are, like, ‘This really pisses me off. We’ve been friends forever and it turns out you’ve been scheming behind my back.’ I think Superman got it and this was maybe my mistake, because I don’t think it was explicitly explained on the page, but what the Justice League was really upset about was not that he came up with these contingency plans. They’re all smart guys; that made sense. I think what pissed them off was that he didn’t tell them he came up with contingency plans. Telling Wonder Woman that you have a contingency plan is not going to screw up your contingency plan. I think that’s where the other Justice Leaguers fell on one side or the other: it wasn’t they were upset these plans existed, but you warn a guy. That gave me a really good place where you could then oust Batman from the Justice League for a year, and have him, without ever saying these exact words and without ever being obvious about it, try to ingratiate his way back into the JLA. Eventually they put their differences aside and everything is basically okay.”

For more from Waid as well as Justice League: Doom producer Bruce Timm and co-director Lauren Montgomery, head over to Superhero Tooniverse, the first online community devoted exclusively to the subject. Just click on the image below.

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IDKwhatToChoose
IDKwhatToChoose - 10/15/2011, 10:33 AM
Justice League Animated Movies are by far some of the best animated flicks. Will be buying this one as well.
IDKwhatToChoose
IDKwhatToChoose - 10/15/2011, 10:38 AM
And that is why Batman is the shiznit. Keeping notes how to take down everyone, perfect for the worlds greatest detective. That said thats why I like the new JL comic, Supes and the others would destroy Bats. So he would have to implament his plans without their knowledge unless he had a Kryptonite suit, a yellow power ring, be able to conjure fire at a whim or have the help of the rest of the members...
tracydavis001
tracydavis001 - 10/15/2011, 10:40 AM
Will definetly buy this, can't wait.
IDKwhatToChoose
IDKwhatToChoose - 10/15/2011, 10:41 AM
@TheGODDAMNSUPERGUY Does anyone have REAL weaknesses for WW? I don't really read her comics and only follow along with her when she is involved in JLA. And yea trying to hit someone that can move faster than the speed of a bullet with a bullet doesn't make much sense
MaddMonkk
MaddMonkk - 10/15/2011, 10:44 AM
DC has it going on in the animation department. I'm sure this will be excellent as well, just wish they were longer.
Bladenite
Bladenite - 10/15/2011, 12:00 PM
If its easier for Flash to move through a bullet why would he all the sudden dodge it? You think too simple, your mind is linearly progressing from one step to the next, the reason he didn't make something complicated for them is because he didn't need it. Flash is impatient and thus will ALWAYS take the easiest route through something, Wonder Woman believes that if she breathes no one can beat her and Green Lantern has always worried about losing his will. It's not about their weakness, it's about their strengths and using that to his advantage. Our Greatest fear is not that we are weak but that we are strong beyond measure...the poet knew a thing or two.
RexDartEskimoSpy
RexDartEskimoSpy - 10/15/2011, 2:03 PM
Hands down my favorite Justice League story. I always hoped they'd get to it on JLU. I mean, it's not any darker than Starcrossed. And now, they kinda sorta have. No Plastic Man, though...
golden123
golden123 - 10/15/2011, 2:29 PM
@IDKwhatToChoose: Wonder Woman can be cleanly cut by sharp penetration (such as swords), and she sustains great pain from strong blunt force (bullets). Their used to be a rule (back in the '60s maybey even '70s) where if you bind WW's arms/wrists together then she is helpless. I think it worked with her legs/ankles too, but this was deemed to have a sexual undertone about it so it was removed from canon.
mmjoseph
mmjoseph - 10/15/2011, 4:58 PM
never read it, but I will. though I respect bats, but this is the exact reason he urks me. so flawed, inability to trust, so detached and removed. the mans clinically crazy. supes fan all the way. sorry I'm trolling
IDKwhatToChoose
IDKwhatToChoose - 10/15/2011, 9:09 PM
@mmjoseph: I think thats what I like about Bats. The fact that he is a loner among superheros. The only one without Superpowers yet still in the middle of the fight that probably should kill him. He is such a complicated and hard to relate to character I think that is the fun of reading his stories.

@golden123: So you can stab her or slice her but a bullet just hurts her? Obviously the one swinging the sword better have augmented strength.

@theGODDAMNSUPERGUY: Yep, they would all kill Bats fairly quickly. Its cool to be a Bats fan but at some point you have to give in and realize a guy that can contain a supernova with his ring can most likely destroy a man in a bat suit even if he has a wonderful plan.
EarOne
EarOne - 10/15/2011, 10:44 PM
i hope they'll show some love dedication to the late great Dwayne McDuffie at the end of the movie. the dude deserves it.
Number1Wolverine
Number1Wolverine - 10/16/2011, 5:00 AM
@EarOne - I agree.
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