Why Can't we Have a connected DC Universe?

Why Can't we Have a connected DC Universe?

Why?

Editorial Opinion
By ironpool007 - Mar 30, 2011 05:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Justice League

I swear these past few days have been pissing me off. First we hear Jeff Robinov sying that Batman could be rebooted and then Zack Snyder follow suit and says that his Superman will not be in the Justice League movie and neither will Nolan's Batman.

To this I must ask why. DC Comics is owned by Warner Brothers. It's not like at Marvel where a lot of the characters are stuck at Sony and FOX. A Justice League film with Batman, Superman, and Green Lantern in their current forms is the easist thing to pull off. Comic book lovers want it to happen, and I'll bet if you asked casual movie goers from the general public, they would say it would be a cool idea too. But instead, Warner Brother's current plan is too have separate versions of these characters along with the other characters who have not yet been introduced.

In some ways I can understand the hesitence to do a connected Universe. This is not Marvel Studios where the studio's sole purpose is to create a shared universe. And when Nolan took on Batman Begins, he was focused on simply making a good Batman movie. It was only later that he came up with ideas for The Dark Knight, which he treated in the same respect, and only agreed to direct The Dark Knight Rises when the story was rigth. And he always has stressed that the world he created is meant just for Batman. Marvel Studios on the other hand hired Jon Favereau to not only create a franchise for Iron Man, he was tasked with making the Iron Man series a launching pad for the Marvel Universe, and every director who has signed on to direct a Marvel signed with the understanding that they were creating a shared universe.

Another reason why DC is currently taking the opposite approach is because The Avengers is not even out yet. Who knows how it will do? And Iron Man 2 was thought by many to have overload of Marvel subplots.

Mainly though, I think it's about pride. Warner Brothers does not want to look like they are copying Marvel's approach. I personally could care less if the approach is copied from Marvel or not. And I think alot of fans will feel the same way. What will carry DC's team and dirrentiate them from Marvel is the characters in there. The DC Universe is much differnt world from the Marvel Universe in tone, that even if the world is shared the way Marvel shares theirs, it will still feel unique.

Look. It can be pulled off. Have Bruce Wayne stepping off a plne saying he just got back from Metropolis or something like that. I also heard an idea of having Clark Kent interview Bruce Wayne. That would be cool too. I think that if Nolan worked hard enough, he could get his version of Batman to fit into the DC Universe. The only issue would be Christian Bale who seems to looking for a way out after TDKR. I say let him go. Another actor can take over if he can convince us that he has been through what Bale's version has. Just make sure he is a good actor and give a BAtsuit from Nolan's movies(tailored to him of course)and he's all set. I would also add that rebooting Batman after Nolan has taken him this far would be a slap in the face. I heard that Nolan may produce the reboot, but if he's involved then just let oversee a continuation of his Gotham City. And the man is producing Snyder's Superman movie, so tie them together already.

Seriously, DC, stop being afraid of being judged as Marvel copycats and do the right thing!

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writernick
writernick - 3/30/2011, 6:49 PM
Seriously, a JLA movie can't work with the established characters. WB has made their movies where even a Robin could never fit in. The way Batman, Superman and Green Lantern movies are set-up for a more mature audiance, making that fan-favorite movie would just alienate the general populace. In my opinion. if they make JLA, they'll kill their chances with the solo movies
Checkmate
Checkmate - 3/30/2011, 7:16 PM
I say give Nolan the boot, have GL come out, then Superman, then Flash, a GL sequel, Wonder Woman, then Aquaman, and a Batman reboot. The next movie after the Batman reboot should be Justice League, and it shouldn't happen until about 2015-2016.
writernick
writernick - 3/30/2011, 7:18 PM
To make a movie with all these individual charismatic characters would lessen their merits from previous solo incarnations
ironpool007
ironpool007 - 3/30/2011, 7:25 PM
No Batman Reboot. Build on what's there.
RoscoeFolgers
RoscoeFolgers - 3/30/2011, 7:45 PM
Because it would suck and make the individual heroes seem less special?
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 3/30/2011, 11:34 PM
WTF is this???

JLA WILL BE CONNECTED!!!


Its [frick]ing HOLLYWOOD, things change every minute!

Furthermore WATCHMEN is the greatest superhero movie ever told!


ZACK wont let us down, Nolan's gone soon, so his Batman (Bale) wont be there!

Everyone else will be!
IronicMan
IronicMan - 3/31/2011, 12:28 AM
Zack Snyder sucks, Chris Nolan ALWAYS knows what he's doing, sadly the rest of WB have their heads up their asses. Make mine Marvel!!
manymade1
manymade1 - 3/31/2011, 4:11 AM
I think because of the fact, that if one sucks they don't want to screw up the whole franchise.
Ethic
Ethic - 3/31/2011, 6:17 AM
We can speculate all we want on the subject, but there's a serious bias that nobody seems to realize exists, which is..

Generally, people want a shared DC universe and a JL film in the very near or perceivable future because it'd be cooler for us.
It's all "NOW NOW NOW! JUST USE THE CURRENT GUYS GAAAAAH!"
I'd love them soon too but guys, the film business isn't going to die out by 2015.
They have FOREVERRRR to do these stories using whatever generation of actors they want.

Is it really so crazy that they're trying to give each character their own series of films?
It's much more respectful of the characters in my opinion.
They have their own monumentally epic worlds when they're in their own corner of the universe.

Can you imagine if DC and Marvel had thrown all their characters into one Justice League or Avengers comic instead of each hero having their own comic? That would suck dick.

It may be frustrating when it isn't being meshed together at the minute but just relax.
As Lee said, it's Hollywood, things change allllll the time.
I don't think the current JL film being discussed will be out any time soon, but I'm okay with that as long as someday it happens.
SeaSerpentine
SeaSerpentine - 3/31/2011, 6:46 AM
Why make the Superman reboot if another rebooted Superman appears in the JLA movie one year later? What is the point? Why make a JLA movie if it has nothing to do with any films that came before? Why make any films with JLA members if they are all going to be recasted anyway later on? Does DC like to throw money down the drain or something? WHY?

Sorry if I sound crazy, it's just that yesterday I threw a fit when they said Snyder's Superman wasn't going to be in JLA and I'm still trying to calm down.
naterator
naterator - 3/31/2011, 1:15 PM


LETS HEAR IT!!
Supes17
Supes17 - 3/31/2011, 1:33 PM
WTF GDsuperguy, ITS NOT NOLAN'S FAULT. As if HE'S telling WB not to put the new GL and Superman in it. THEY WERE PLANNING TO DO THAT YEARS AGO WITH JL:Mortal, which got shelved. It wasn't Chris's idea, all he ever said was that he was not going to include other Superheroes in his Films. Grow up people its Hollywood anyway, they do whatever the hell they want. Go [female dog] at FOX for BUTCHERING the Xmen and nit the guy that has proved successful in ressurecting the Batman franchise and boosting respect for DC
Supes17
Supes17 - 3/31/2011, 1:36 PM
If Chris Nolan ditched DC for Marvel, it would be like heaven on Earth For CBM's
KungFuGee
KungFuGee - 3/31/2011, 11:55 PM
It seems that the creators and writers of comics should have more control on films. All the brilliance and creativity in a comicbook that draws us in within a few pages very rarely translates to the screen. It makes no sense to reboot Batman, it seems like they finally get it right so of course they have to scrap it and screw it up again..Supes also.makes no sense to exclude characters from their own established and interesting universe. It would be great for Batman (the reluctant JL member) to bump heads w/ the big "boy-scout" and keep an eye on the "heroes" w/ super powers to make sure they don't overstep the rights of regular humans. And... All these individual character films are not needed to have a successful JL movie. The Watchmen is proof, most people had not even heard of those characters before but it was a success because of a great story and cinematography. Not character knowledge. Damn this is a long comment...But this Bullsh-t really pisses me off.
ironpool007
ironpool007 - 4/1/2011, 4:49 AM
@ KungFuGee: yes but the characters in Watchmen were all introduced right in the Watchmen comic and never had separate comics, so of course their was no need to do character piece films for each of them. Teams like The Justic League of America and The Avengers are different in that they are comprised of team members who already had their own comics so it's a wise strategy to weave them together before teaming them up like they will in The Avengers and thats how JLA should be or one big movie that characters then spin out of.
GarthRanzz
GarthRanzz - 4/1/2011, 11:11 AM
I never understood the need for a connected universe to be honest. Anyone see Incredible Hulk? It was stupid when they had Robert Downey Jr. He had nothing to add to make it a better movie. It came off forced in. I am perfectly fine that Ned Beatty doesn't show up in the Michael Keaton Batman movies or Halle Berry Catwoman movie. I am fine if James Marsden didn't fly planes with Ryan Reynolds. This stuff just takes away from the movies if you ask me.
Suzanne
Suzanne - 4/1/2011, 3:01 PM
The reason why is because the current movie franchises haven't been designed to be connected. The Marvel ones have been from the beginning. So the only choice that DC has is to use the Smallville Justice League Team and connect it to the Wonder Woman TV Series.
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