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SaintCrow
SaintCrow - 1/23/2023, 3:04 PM
Winter Soldier!
Spike101
Spike101 - 1/23/2023, 4:44 PM
@SaintCrow - absolutely 👍 it’s the best MCU for me.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/23/2023, 4:49 PM
@SaintCrow - Avengers:Infinity War and Captain America:The Winter Soldier are the two best Marvel movies.

I don't think we'll ever see another movie like The Winter Soldier from Disney Marvel ever again.
abd00bie
abd00bie - 1/23/2023, 5:26 PM
@SaintCrow - Catwoman! Masterpiece!
SATW42
SATW42 - 1/23/2023, 3:05 PM
"The Batman opened to overwhelmingly positive reviews last March, but in the months that followed, it was largely forgotten."

I think you answered your own question there buddy. It was forgotten. Another way of saying that is it wasn't memorable.

Man, this movie is so overrated. It was just an ok Batman movie, that was admittedly a pretty decent detective story (even if the two detectives weren't very good at their detective jobs or riddles) but then the 3rd act just turned into the usual mob of faceless, dispoable bad guys trying to blow something up cliche nonsense.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/23/2023, 3:20 PM
@SATW42 - I enjoyed The Batman but I agree that it wasn't all that memorable and with time the drabness and just how average Batman & Gordon were as detectives, rings louder and louder. That being said, it's a more than adequate kicking off to a larger universe and its Batman is one of the stronger portrayals (minus small aspects of Bruce himself that I had an issue with), and it houses the best Gotham City since Batman 89 (I did notice as the movie went on Gotham was confined to like three different sets/locations only).

However, there was something "missing" about it. Almost an unquantifiable element that made Batman Begins what it was, TDK, Batman 89. And I'm a little hard on TDK as it's not a great Batman movie, but it's an incredible Batman Rogue showcase (for the Joker).
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 1/23/2023, 4:49 PM
@SATW42 - it definitely was just an ok Batman movie.
SATW42
SATW42 - 1/23/2023, 5:02 PM
@GhostDog - I liked it, I just didn't watch it and think "GIVE IT ALL THE AWARDS!" What I DO remember about the movie (besides an hour of it's 3 hour runtime being dedicated to a language barrier in a riddle) was that I felt all 3 hours of it's runtime. Say what you will about Marvel movies, Infinity War and Endgame didn't FEEL like 3 hour movies. This did.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/23/2023, 3:11 PM
I feel like other MCU movies deserved awards before Endgame. But I'm not the biggest fan of Endgame, either.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 1/23/2023, 3:12 PM
@CorndogBurglar - same. Civil war is miles better than endgame in my opinion
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/23/2023, 3:13 PM
@MyCoolYoung - I would agree with that. As well as Winter Soldier and Infinity War.

There aren't many Phase 1-3 movies I didn't enjoy to some extent. But Endgame was certainly not at the top of my list.
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 1/23/2023, 3:17 PM
@CorndogBurglar - Endgame is not a great movie. The entire Second Act dealing with the time travel goes on for too long and it's mostly awful filler, "Hey, remember that time when we did that thing!" Chris Farley Show nonsense.

Infinity War is the zenith of the MCU. It's all been downhill from there.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 1/23/2023, 3:19 PM
@CorndogBurglar - agreed. Especially phase 3. Phase 3 was really something special. Endgame isn't a bad movie I feel. I like that it was like a love letter to fans, but it was just cool i
EZBeast
EZBeast - 1/23/2023, 3:27 PM
@CorndogBurglar - I personally disliked endgame. It was just a meh film overall and can never understand the love it gets over the vastly superior, imo, infinity war.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/23/2023, 3:57 PM
@HistoryofMatt - For me it was the time travel stuff. It really didn't make any sense, I feel like they didn't really follow their own time travel rules they set up, Captain America's fate was so confusing and poorly thought out that people working on the movie all provided different explanations for it for over a year after the movie came out, and worst of all, it kind of made the Avengers look like selfish prices that were willing to create alternate dimensions by changing their past and then leaving those timelines to their own demise.

Just so much wring with it.
dragon316
dragon316 - 1/23/2023, 4:31 PM
@CorndogBurglar - infinity war I didn’t like some questions was answered in end game but other questions in infinity war was not answer
Spike101
Spike101 - 1/23/2023, 4:52 PM
@CorndogBurglar - agreed, for the Winter Soldier and Infinity War are much better.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 1/23/2023, 5:26 PM
@CorndogBurglar - Endgame was a mess. So badly written.
Rastarapha
Rastarapha - 1/23/2023, 8:15 PM
@HistoryofMatt -

Infinity war was just MCU characters on the same screen with no interractions between them

At least Endgame tells something with the conclusion of Tony and Steve arc and developp some secondary characters

The rush to get the infinity stones when Feige had 18 movies to set them in a better way was weird

And the movie is already ugly 4 years after its release (this critics can also be made for Endgame)
Radders
Radders - 1/24/2023, 4:47 AM
@CorndogBurglar - "it kind of made the Avengers look like selfish prices that were willing to create alternate dimensions by changing their past and then leaving those timelines to their own demise."

But it was Kang :-D
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/23/2023, 3:15 PM
As much as I enjoyed all these movies, only Spider-Man 2 really deserved some big award recognition. The other movies are too big of scope I feel (ensemble or length).

Winter Soldier is perfect though. That movie was a great spy/military flick. Only reason it's a comic book movie is because Steve Rogers decides they have to wear their branded uniforms for the final fight.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/23/2023, 4:11 PM
@bkmeijer1 - I'm really hoping Secret Invasion helps recapture some of the feeling from Winter Soldier. The trailers look amazing and give me that same kind of vibe. So fingers crossed.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 1/23/2023, 4:49 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Do you also feel that something like The Lord of the Rings trilogy didn't deserve the awards they won for the same reason? Not trying to pull any "gotcha", genuily asking.
tmp3
tmp3 - 1/23/2023, 4:57 PM
@FinnishDude - i think the difference is that the lord of the rings films were closer to true epics like ben-hur than more disposable popcorn fare like the avengers. they’re both big blockbusters, but the film-making on display isn’t really comparable imo
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/23/2023, 5:38 PM
@FinnishDude - honestly, you did have a "gotcha" until @tmp3 stepped in.

That said, I do agree with tmp3. Those movies had something else on display. To stay in line with my original comment: I'd say it is its scope. Not ensemble or length, but in scale.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/24/2023, 8:53 AM
@CorndogBurglar - It does have a Winter Soldier vibe to it but we both know what Disney Marvel are like when it comes to Disney Plus content.
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 1/23/2023, 3:16 PM
The Dark Knight not being on this list completely invalidates this list.

But congrats, you got me to click on this garbage. So shame on me.
tmp3
tmp3 - 1/23/2023, 3:29 PM
@HistoryofMatt - dark knight and spider-verse are the only ones i can realistically see as being actual snubs
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/23/2023, 5:39 PM
@HistoryofMatt @tmp3 - I think neither were snubbed. Both won in the categories where they mattered most in my opinion: best supporting role and animation
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 1/24/2023, 12:17 AM
@HistoryofMatt - The fact that The Dark Knight is not number 1 on this list is sad.In fact it caused so much outrage for being snub I believe they raised the number of pictures nominated for the award the next year.
Origame
Origame - 1/23/2023, 3:16 PM
No the dark knight or Logan? Come on.
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 1/24/2023, 12:19 AM
@Origame - you just reminded me about Logan def should be top 3on the list.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 1/23/2023, 3:16 PM
I don’t care how many panels it recreated on screen, Snyder’s Watchmen missed the entire point of the comic and deserves no awards.
tmp3
tmp3 - 1/23/2023, 3:21 PM
@PlusUltra - a superior watchmen adaptation already cleaned up the awards circuit
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/23/2023, 4:16 PM
@PlusUltra - How did it miss the point of the comics? I think it did a very good job. They just changed the ending to make it look like Dr Manhattan caused the explosion instead of a giant interdimension squid monster.

Which kind of makes sense considering everyone was already very worried and scared of Dr Manhattan. It made more sense to lean into that fear than creating some weird fake monster that appeared for 2 seconds then exploded.

And it's a different medium. They couldn't deconstruct the comics industry the same way the comics did because it's a film. So they deconstructed the superhero genre of films. That's why all their costumes were the big rubber versions. Why Ozy had nipples on his suit. Everything was over-stylized, even for Zack Snyder. The action scenes were over the top.

Anything else missing, like the side plot of the lesbian girls, or the prison psychologist, or the newspaper guys didn't have anything to do with the actual plot of the comic. So missing those pieces really didn't change anything.
Itwasme
Itwasme - 1/23/2023, 3:22 PM
The lack of squid was not Watchmen's problem....
tmp3
tmp3 - 1/23/2023, 3:26 PM
the avengers doesn't hold up very well, and endgame is more of a 3 hour celebration party than a movie. watchmen was straight up bad.
DinoCookie
DinoCookie - 1/23/2023, 3:31 PM
agree with everyone. except Watchmen. its was bad. but the Batman is one of the best movies so far.
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