Disney Has Reportedly Been Paying Comic Book Creators As Little As $5000 For Movies That Grossed $1+ Billion

Disney Has Reportedly Been Paying Comic Book Creators As Little As $5000 For Movies That Grossed $1+ Billion

The Marvel Cinematic Universe is the most successful franchise on film and television today, but for the creators who dreamed up the characters used in those movies and TV shows, money is a major issue!

By Nighthawk01 - Aug 10, 2021 04:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Studios
Source: The Guardian

The paltry sum Disney pays comic book writers and artists whose work is featured in film and on television is a story that's simply not going away, and more details have been revealed in a piece from The Guardian. The story itself goes into the legalities of how creators are paid royalties (or not) for characters they've created, but there are a few specific points that will leave you speechless.

Multiple sources tell the site that when a writer or artist's work is featured heavily in a Marvel Studios blockbuster, Disney's standard practice is to send them an invitation to the premiere with a cheque for $5000. That's it. 

Often, this acknowledgement will vary between the $5000 and nothing at all, and there are a lot of complicated contractual hoops these creators have to jump through to even be considered. Should their creations be deemed not original enough, then they're unlikely to get more than a "Special Thanks" in the credits (and even that's unlikely for those who don't play ball). 

"I’ve been offered a [special character contract] that was really, really terrible, but it was that or nothing," one anonymous comic book creator tells the site. "And then instead of honouring it, they send a thank you note and are like, ‘Here’s some money we don’t owe you!’ and it’s five grand. And you’re like, ‘The movie made a billion dollars.’"

Ed Brubaker, the co-creator of the Winter Soldier, has been vocal about this in the past and it's been revealed that he and Steve Epting turned up at the premiere party for Captain America: The Winter Soldier, only to learn they weren't invited. When Brubaker texted Sebastian Stan, they were let it. 

It's difficult to say how much Disney, and Marvel Studios, should be paying these creators. Should it be hundreds of thousands? Millions? Where is the line drawn when it comes to characters like Monica Rambeau and Throg given how the size of their roles on Disney+ differed? Whatever the answer may be, it's clear something needs to change. 

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BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 8/10/2021, 4:18 AM
Eekkk that's what happens when you create characters for a major company. It's unfair but it's the reality 🤷🏿‍♂️ the company owns the IP not the creator.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 8/10/2021, 6:44 AM
@TheClungeMaker - Agree its show business not show friends. You get what you negotiate not what you are worth. Sad but true.

This why job searching is so difficult.
YonnyLayna
YonnyLayna - 8/10/2021, 9:32 AM
@TheClungeMaker - to be fair it's kinda crappy giving how they treated Stan Lee.
Battabing
Battabing - 8/10/2021, 9:43 AM
@mastakilla39 -
It's hilarious how Jim Starlin got more money for KG Beast in BvS than he got for Gamora and Thanos combined.
Franshu
Franshu - 8/10/2021, 11:10 AM
@TheClungeMaker - Still, it's unacceptable business practice, nonetheless. I mean, not even inviting Brubaker and Epting to the WInter Sldier premiere, for instance? You serious?

Marvel is even (supposed to) pay creators a bonus for trade collections, reprints and such, so the idea that one should go about it like "it is what it is" when they're not paid some percentage over stuff they themselves created is absurd. Heck, even WB treats their creators better than that. The only thing you get by doing this sorta shit is creators not wanting to work with you, which in the short or long term, end up harming the precious IP. It's no surprise Image has been releasing stellar stuff lately whereas mainstream titles are for the most part lacking (except for, say, Immortal Hulk or Daredevil).
SolarSoldier
SolarSoldier - 8/10/2021, 12:27 PM
@TheClungeMaker - You are part of the problem.
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 8/10/2021, 1:03 PM
@SolarSoldier - lol how? Because i know how business works? It is what it is 🤷🏿‍♂️
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 8/10/2021, 1:35 PM
@YonnyLayna - yep they should defo get more. Only if the creators could see how popular these films have become they could have negotiated a % of the movies gross.
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 8/10/2021, 1:36 PM
@Battabing - Jesus 💀💀💀 Disney are ruthless
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 8/10/2021, 1:41 PM
@Franshu - I agree, I met George Perez at the last comic con I went to and the poor guy was like 'i hope I get something, as Taskmaster was in the new BW film'. it's disgusting but I'm not surprised 1 bit.
LilJimmy
LilJimmy - 8/10/2021, 4:20 AM
Disney is evil
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 8/10/2021, 5:08 AM
@LilJimmy - Disney is a company. It's not about good and evil. It's about profit.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 8/10/2021, 5:47 AM
@LilJimmy - a contract is a contract. No one is forcing these writers or artists to sign.
billnye69
billnye69 - 8/10/2021, 4:28 AM
What do you expect? The rules of Capitalism clearly state....Go fu*k yourself, the money is all mine.
Neutronbomb
Neutronbomb - 8/10/2021, 7:55 AM
@billnye69 - Exactly... this is the capitalism that is romanticized so much in this country for some reason. Bottom line is, Disney doesn't owe these people a penny more than what they were contracted for. Doesn't make it "right" but it is what it is in this system.
Truoptimusprime
Truoptimusprime - 8/10/2021, 4:29 AM
Well it seems disney is getting some of the karma back through covid, and the box office losses.
Chappers
Chappers - 8/10/2021, 4:29 AM
I get the whole "[frick] Disney" narrative but the original article is regarding both Marvel and DC following this same practice.

It must be rough though creating a story and watching it brought to life for billions whilst you get 5k or less
Battabing
Battabing - 8/10/2021, 9:50 AM
@JakeyChappers -
The creator of El Diablo said he got enough money from the character's in Suicide Squad that he was able to buy a new house.
Ethan Van Sciver said he got six figures just for his GL designs used in both cuts of JL. Imagine how much money guys like Paul Dini and Neil Gaiman are taking home.
This article is attempting throwing DC under a bus they shouldn't be anywhere near.
It's hilarious how DC doesn't even get much of a mention in the article.

This is a Marvel problem.
GameOn
GameOn - 8/10/2021, 5:08 AM
Of course they could be paid more, but I feel like it also might be one of those things where they can’t pay every cook in the kitchen a hefty sum or they’d not get the returns they have to go on making the movies, right?

Like each of these movies shows takes inspiration from multiple comic books, so does any sort of inspired scene, regardless of impact, command a large return?

Or could you even compare it to a cover song where, yes these guys had a hand in creating the thing and making the thing popular, but a bunch of other people put a lot of work in to make a thing heavily inspired by your thing and made it more popular?
kirbyfan
kirbyfan - 8/10/2021, 9:43 AM
@GameOn - NO EXCUSES!
They make MORE THAN ENOUGH, let me say it again they make MORE THAN ENOUGH to pay all involved! They would still have a great return, in fact the return would be even more because they are doing the right thing!
Battabing
Battabing - 8/10/2021, 9:56 AM
@kirbyfan -
Right?
Your creations and stories grossed us over $2B at the box office.
Here's 0.0000025%! Say thank you!
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