STAR WARS: John Boyega Was Also Baffled By Finn's Forced Jedi Subplot In THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

STAR WARS: John Boyega Was Also Baffled By Finn's Forced Jedi Subplot In THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Heading into The Force Awakens, all signs pointed to Finn being the franchise's new Jedi lead. Plans changed, though, and John Boyega agrees that shoehorning it into The Rise of Skywalker was a bad idea.

By JoshWilding - Sep 01, 2022 09:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars
Source: Happy Sad Confused (via SFFGazette.com)

Finn's story arc in the Star Wars sequels was undeniably messy, with J.J. Abrams and Rian Johnson's clashing visions leading to John Boyega being utilised in vastly different ways from movie to movie.

In The Force Awakens, it was strongly hinted that the former Stormtrooper might be a Jedi in the making, though The Last Jedi backtracked by reiterating that Finn was a coward and someone with little interest in fighting back against The First Order. He became a hero by the time all was said and done, but The Rise of Skywalker had an entire subplot devoted to Finn wanting to tell Rey he has Force powers.

It was a weird, unresolved plot thread that felt entirely shoehorned in. Now, Boyega has reflected on Abrams' decision to return to what was clearly one of his original plans for Finn, admitting that it felt shoehorned in.

"It was a discussion from VII that was kind of brewing, because you didn’t know which way it was gonna go, right?" the actor tells Happy Sad Confused (via SFFGazette.com) about plans for Finn to be a Jedi. "And then VIII went in another direction. So I think with VIII going in another direction, when you’re bringing someone to the third, they have to kind of like appreciate what’s happened in VIII and then still try and make a narrative of it."

"And JJ [Abrams], I mean JJ really wanted...Force Awakens is the movie that JJ directed, he was kind of pinpoint plotting a trajectory," Boyega continues. "But obviously, with the different creative differences in the middle and then getting to the third, it’s kind of like he still wanted to, you know, just force it in there, just squeeze it in there."

Boyega would later state that he'd like to see what became of Finn and his possible Jedi training, though suggested he'd like to see another, younger actor in the role. It's clear he has zero interest in returning to the Star Wars franchise, and is now looking to move on from an experience he seems to have walked away from feeling the same level of disappointment as fans. 

A lack of planning really hurt these final chapters in the Skywalker Saga, and the decision to allow filmmakers to do whatever they wanted ultimately backfired in a major way, particularly in the case of Finn. 

Do you think Lucasfilm dropped the ball with Finn's story arc? Share your thoughts below.

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vegetaray
vegetaray - 9/1/2022, 9:40 AM
Another “article” from a single interview that again circles back to a sister site…This site is turning into end stage AICN at this point…How many clicks is this nonsense really dredging up? I mean seriously…
Vision85
Vision85 - 9/1/2022, 10:35 AM
@vegetaray - Josh has bills to pay.....so he has to trigger dem nerds
The1st
The1st - 9/1/2022, 11:50 AM
@Vision85 - Hey, nerds aren't bad. Passionate maybe...?




So yeah, like you said, bills to pay lol.
grif
grif - 9/1/2022, 9:41 AM
dont remember any sub plots or hinting of any kind that this guy was ever going to be a jedi. he picked up a sword. that was it.

then again i cant remember anything about these movies they are so forgettable.
FrankieDedo
FrankieDedo - 9/1/2022, 9:43 AM
@grif - nah, in the first movie "the force awakens" was clearly referred to him. Snoke talks about this way before Rey even finds the lightsaber and, i could be wrong, even before she asks Han about Jedis
pyramosteu
pyramosteu - 9/1/2022, 10:03 AM
@grif - there was a deleted scene where he heard the screams of the republic planet that got destroyed. Also at the beginning of force awakens he seemed quite intune with what was happening around him. Rian Johnson just dropped the ball and decided to be an a**hole about things
FrankieDedo
FrankieDedo - 9/1/2022, 9:41 AM
LucasFilm dropped the ball with leaving story consistency to individual directors and writers. I liked VII and VIII but they probably are the less consistent material in the new SW canon since 2014. They have the Story Group, but basically refused to use it within movies and you can clearly see the difference between those three movies and everything else produced.

Marvel is a bit less proficient in terms of numbers of single media products made, but they always try to tie stuff together in a sensible way, for what is possible.
LilJimmy
LilJimmy - 9/1/2022, 9:48 AM
These movies were so god awful
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 9/1/2022, 9:54 AM
“and the decision to allow filmmakers to do whatever they wanted ultimately backfired in a major way, particularly in the case of Finn. “

It wasn’t filmmakers.

It was one guy. One filmmaker.
TheSuperMex
TheSuperMex - 9/1/2022, 10:03 AM
His story had potential but you can tell Abrams just thought a Stormtrooper joining the wannabe “Rebels” was cool but didn’t put much thought into it.
pyramosteu
pyramosteu - 9/1/2022, 10:07 AM
@TheSuperMex - It was left open ended to give rian johnson some creative freedom, but with luke tossing away the lightsaber it was symbolic of him tossing away any semblance of where JJ would have went with it
TheSuperMex
TheSuperMex - 9/1/2022, 10:52 AM
@pyramosteu - blame is still on Abrams. Finn left the First Order because he didn’t want to kill people but then he kills Stormtroopers as he leaves the first order base while screaming in joy. It was nothing more than a cool idea that didn’t have much thought into it. Johnson at least have him some meat even if it could have been better done.
pyramosteu
pyramosteu - 9/2/2022, 5:25 AM
@TheSuperMex - It was Johnson's idea to make Leia fly in space, kill snoke and for Rey to be a nobody, Abrams didn't have a great layup but Johnson intentionally went in the opposite direction with the thing on purpose. Anyone with some common sense would have been able to follow through with some consistency.
TheSuperMex
TheSuperMex - 9/2/2022, 9:51 AM
@pyramosteu - we’re talking about Finn here.
Superspecialawesomeguy
Superspecialawesomeguy - 9/1/2022, 10:05 AM
I always thought Finn was F-S but if JJ cared so much about it being a fact than he should've worked on the story outline for the whole trilogy instead of just one movie imo.

TheRealMandarin
TheRealMandarin - 9/1/2022, 10:07 AM
I've actually come to like certain aspects of the ST more now. Yoda scene in The Last Jedi, Rey entering the world between worlds in Rise & Finn being a jedi actually. Imean if they chose to return to the sequel area they can say that Finn was a youngling at Cal or Ezras Temple but was taken.They could even go multiverse & have Ahsoka look at Rey in a portal & tell her she's sorry as the portal dissappears. What a time to be a sw fan 😂
Spiderfan2226
Spiderfan2226 - 9/1/2022, 10:46 AM
It’s so stupid to me to have two completely different creators with two completely different creative directions in mind be brought into the same trilogy. It should have been readily apparent to everyone that this was not going to work unless they picked one of the two ideas and ran with it. And since JJs came first, Rian should not have been allowed to do what he did. At least if they didn’t have someone who wanted to flip everything around do the second movie and actually followed the story beats from the first movie we would’ve had a narratively consistent trilogy. It really feels like egotism. Like everyone was more worried about putting their own stamp on it then actually making a good trilogy.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 9/1/2022, 11:03 AM
The subplot does feel entirely shoehorned in, but I think it can lead to interesting things. If they ever do a threequel trilogy, I want Finn to be the Grandmaster of the Jedi Order and be dressed in those bad-ass armor Jedi wore during the Clone Wars
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 9/1/2022, 11:07 AM
You can watch old Star Wars ripoffs like Battlestar Galactica, Buck Rogers and even the lowly V, and see better characters than any of the Disney 7-9 characters. There are episodes of Star Trek TNG, Star Trek Voyager, Star Trek DS9 that are better than Disney's Star Wars movies.

So let's not pretend there was untapped potential for Disney's Star Wars sequels. There never was.
BigMonkeyBrain
BigMonkeyBrain - 9/1/2022, 1:35 PM
As others have pointed out, having both Abrams and Rian, who had conflicting visions, build the sequel trilogy was doomed to fail.

So much potential squandered.
Nothing in geekdom gets my goat more than what's happened to the Star Wars movie under Disney.
They had no plan and there's no way to reboot or reinvent, because SW is only one canon.

At least with DC films, if they fxxx up, they can always reboot due to the nature of the comic book characters having such a varied history (but even that is hard with the current state of DC films and people's perception of it)

You can't do that here. Kennedy, Abrams and Johnson f***ed it all up. They basically just made bad fan fiction.

At least I have been enjoying Mandolorian and Obi-wan series. Book of Boba Fett had some good moments, but was the weakest one so far. Should've given the keys to Star Wars movies to the likes of Filoni and Favearu.
HAUSMAN01
HAUSMAN01 - 9/1/2022, 1:56 PM
Although I'm happy he doesn't want any parts with SW for how dirty they did him. After watching his new film BREAKING I can see Boyega doing a role like Mister Miracle,Mr. Terrific,Annihilus ,Apocalypse ,Michael Korvac,or Eclipso
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