SPIDER-MAN 4 Is Reportedly Being Described By Insiders As The Wall-Crawler's "Biggest" Movie Yet

SPIDER-MAN 4 Is Reportedly Being Described By Insiders As The Wall-Crawler's "Biggest" Movie Yet

Much has been said about what we can expect from Spider-Man 4, but one insider claims to have heard that not only will this movie be bigger than No Way Home, but the wall-crawler's "biggest movie of all."

By JoshWilding - Nov 22, 2024 01:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

Spider-Man 4 must surely rank as the most highly anticipated superhero movies coming our way over the next couple of years and, as a result, we're likely to be bombarded by rumours right up until it swings into theaters a couple of summers from now. 

Even yesterday, an apparent Sony Pictures Japan leak appeared to confirm recent reports that Tom Holland's Peter Parker will finally share the screen with Tom Hardy's Venom (likely for a battle with the King in Black, Knull). 

We've long wondered how Marvel Studios will top what we saw in Spider-Man: No Way Home when Holland, Tobey Maguire, and Andrew Garfield assembled to do battle with a sinister quintet of villains. 

Now, scooper @MyTimeToShineH brings word that, "Spider-Man 4 was described to me as the 'Biggest Spider-Man movie of them all.'" Take that as you will. 

As always, it's best to take this with a pinch of salt but as the weeks and months go by, it's looking increasingly unlikely that fans will get the street-level adventure they hoped for after Peter ditched the Stark tech and finally became New York City's Friendly Neighborhood superhero. 

What we do know is that Holland is hoping for some big changes when it comes to how Spider-Man 4 is shot. COVID resulted in a unique approach to getting Spider-Man: No Way Home across the finish line and the actor revealed last month that the process is not one he wishes to repeat. 

"One of the unfortunate things about Spider-Man[: No Way Home] was we shot it in peak COVID times," he recalled. "We shot everything in a studio which meant, I think in the process of making that film, I might have done three days on location. You can feel it in the film, I think."

"When we're walking through New York, they sent a crew to New York to shoot the streets with a motion camera jib. Then they brought that piece of kit back to Atlanta and then they would make on the floor, 'There's an extra here. There's a dog here. There's a sidewalk here.' Then I'd have to map out what I was going to do in a pre-existing shot."

Holland added, "This is going to make me sound really difficult but I got over it and we figured it out. The camera was moving way slower than Peter Parker would usually walk. Peter Parker's very bubbly, very quick. Everything is about getting from A to B as quickly as possible without thinking and this shot that they had was this really slow, meandering camera angle through New York."

"Peter is supposed to be in a rush to get to Doctor Strange to ask him this question, and I found it really difficult to portray, 'I'm stressed and in a rush...but walking really slowly,' I actually think that shot isn't in the film because it didn't work."

Spider-Man 4 has been officially dated for July 26, 2026 with Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings director Destin Daniel Cretton helming a script penned by Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers.

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Batmangina
Batmangina - 11/22/2024, 1:17 PM
Let me be FIRST to say it's going to be the biggest MEH of the franchise.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 11/22/2024, 1:17 PM
Spiderman is the coolest avenger i bet he will take on galactus
MisterBones
MisterBones - 11/22/2024, 1:18 PM
[frick] this scooper
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 11/22/2024, 1:21 PM
I love the idea of getting a proper Spidey and venom movie, but I really hope it isnt the current Tom Hardy goofball version of the character. I just cant take the 3rd grader humor/ cookie monster voice seriously. Wish Venom could get a reboot.
TheNewYorker
TheNewYorker - 11/22/2024, 1:22 PM
Sureee..
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/22/2024, 1:23 PM
We’ll see but if true then man , I wish Marvel would understand that bigger doesn’t mean better when it comes to the films.

Plus , idk how much bigger it could get then the bloody multiverse unless Peter goes to space or different Earths himself.

Maybe those Battleworld rumors are true sadly , sigh.
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 11/22/2024, 1:31 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I mean if rumors are correct, its more Sony that's pushing for a bigger movie, while Marvel wanted to scale things back down
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/22/2024, 1:40 PM
@eagc1995 - that’s a good point but I feel like I have felt Feige fall into that mentality too sometimes
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 11/22/2024, 2:23 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I mean lets consider the fact he seems to want to save the Avengers films to end a saga, instead of having a small Avengers movie to cap off each Phase as it was during Phases 1-2
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 11/22/2024, 1:24 PM
"Biggest" Movie Yet....originally marketing words right there.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 11/22/2024, 1:28 PM
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BillyBatson1000
BillyBatson1000 - 11/22/2024, 1:33 PM
I would have been more impressed if they'd said VERY biggest movie yet.

That's a vote grabber ...
BeNice123
BeNice123 - 11/22/2024, 1:36 PM
Fav superhero, supes and spidey of all time. I only wish supes was making as much moolah as spidey is.
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 11/22/2024, 1:40 PM
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Grounded should be the way they go. They just want to chase the big box office but that can still be done with a grounded story in New York without universe ending stakes
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/22/2024, 4:07 PM
@ItsNotForMeWahh -
Pretty much. Comics understood this. You'd have a team-up event followed by a small scale grounded storyline that focused on the emotional development of the characters and allowed us to explore them. This allowed the audience to settle back into the world building of the universe before the next big event came along and disrupted everything again.

In the case of Spider-man 4, the most logical option would have been for him to team-up with Daredevil following the set-up from NWH. As such the main villain they would face mentally/emotionally would naturally be a crime boss, Kingpin, who would have brought Stark Tower.

Then you need a cool physical antagonist and the two that were set-up were Mac Gargan (Scorpion) in Homecoming and Venom in No Way Home. Luckily there's many story-lines where Mac Gargan becomes Venom temporarily. You could also play with Peter neglecting his real life in favor of being Spider-man and play with the black suit story-line while setting up the idea of the Codex to tease Knull as the villain of Spider-man 5.
Super12
Super12 - 11/22/2024, 1:47 PM
Honestly it'd be so refreshing if they just went with a low-key, grounded, small-scale character-driven story for the next one. Still a full-on Spidey movie, but maybe this time the stakes are just a little lower. But still personal.

Once you've saved the universe, then the multiverse it's kind of hard to get bigger than that.
Order66
Order66 - 11/22/2024, 1:48 PM
Spider-Man 4 should be street level. Kingpin, Tombstone, Hammerhead and Maggia Crime Family. Miles is Peter’s neighbor. Midway thru the movie he meets DD and they team up to take down some Maggia soldiers and cappos. Ending Spider-Man defeats Tombstone and Hammerhead and exposes Kingpin. Mid credit scene the symbiote attaches itself to Peter and Peter is black suit Spider-Man for Secret Wars. Post credit scene is DD that leads into Born Again.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 11/22/2024, 1:59 PM
@Order66 - throw in scorpion as a Kingpin Thug with some alistar smythe near the end of the movie (leading into spidey 5) plus what you said above and i would be In HEAVEN with that movie

but.. you know... Sony gonna Sony and f*ck it up
Order66
Order66 - 11/22/2024, 2:14 PM
@MotherGooseUPus -

Spider-Man 5 - Knull is the villain. He comes to 616 to kill the symbiote left by venom. Eddie gets teleported to 616 and at first it’s Spider-Man vs Venom and then they both team together to defeat Knull. During the fight Miles gets his powers because he is collateral damage as a bystander. Post credit scene Miles shows Peter his powers and Peter reveals himself as Spider-Man.

Spider-Man 6 - follow the video game. Peter trains Miles. Smythe breaks Vulture out of prison (make Morbius not canon) and they form their Sinister Six (Smythe, Vulture, Scorpion, Negative, Rhino, Shocker). Ending is Peter either loses his powers for good or retires, and Miles takes over as the new Spider-Man in the MCU.
Fares
Fares - 11/22/2024, 1:52 PM
how exciting...
Namaste815
Namaste815 - 11/22/2024, 1:53 PM
Has MTTSH's track record not been pretty rough lately?

I mean, I'm sure someone on Reddit, X, IG or BlueSky would be more reliable at this point.

Anyway...

Even if I believed this, there'll be a new report contradicting this within a week or so, then the same with that.

Just getting the feeling that folk will be disappointed with this when it finally releases.
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 11/22/2024, 1:56 PM
@Namaste815 - Reddit has MTTSH as a tier 3 scooper when it comes to quality

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/wiki/index/source-accuracy-tiers/
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/22/2024, 1:57 PM
@Namaste815 - things are gonna be constantly changing to some extent or another with these scoopers until the film comes out so probably is best not to put much stock in any of these rumors right now.
Namaste815
Namaste815 - 11/22/2024, 1:57 PM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - I stand corrected.

Just knew them as a Twitter/X person.
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 11/22/2024, 1:57 PM
@Namaste815 - That is from January so I wouldn't be surprised if they will be bummed down a ranking after all of the claims this year
Namaste815
Namaste815 - 11/22/2024, 1:58 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Exactly.
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 11/22/2024, 2:00 PM
@Namaste815 - Also my message was more to say that MTTSH has poor accuracy. That subreddit keeps track so people can take things with a grain of salt.

These stories also break on there a few hours or days before they appear on this site. Usually
bobevanz
bobevanz - 11/22/2024, 2:39 PM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - and since January, most of it is bullshit. I miss the days of Umberto
FrankenDad
FrankenDad - 11/22/2024, 1:59 PM
Still slinging shit at Spidey fans? We don’t need his biggest movie yet. We want his best.
HegoD
HegoD - 11/22/2024, 2:01 PM
Meanwhile BTS from LOTR Rohirrim

ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 11/22/2024, 2:18 PM
I'll reserve judgment until the trailer. But it really is frustrating we haven't gotten more of the grounded street level Spider-Man adventures that made him so popular in the first place.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 11/22/2024, 2:19 PM

Ugh. 2 more years of this sh!t.

bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/22/2024, 2:36 PM
I prefer it being small. Or middle-sized like Homecoming was
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 11/22/2024, 2:53 PM
@bkmeijer1 - same

It would be refreshing after the larger scale of NWH or even FFH
Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 11/22/2024, 2:39 PM
Shitty news. It's time for a smaller, classic street level Spider-Man film. Hopefully someday marvel realizes that they can make a great superhero film for less than 100m.
WakandaTech
WakandaTech - 11/22/2024, 3:03 PM
Should of been a grounded street level EPIC movie

with

Daredevil
Kingpin
Punisher
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 11/22/2024, 3:12 PM
Am I the only one who wants to see some version of HOBGOLBIN on the big screen?

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Spidey215
Spidey215 - 11/22/2024, 3:22 PM
People keep saying Sony but I 100% would bet that Feige & Marvel are 100% encouraging multiverse, crossover and tentpole mega film. They want to keep Hollands Spider-Man wrapped up in the avengers saga, secret wars, x-men, etc. for momentum.

It does them no benefit to do a grounded spider-man story even though the timing has never been more perfect & it’s what the fans literally want.

We want Romita Sr College Parker. Dealing with Rival Gangs & Mob bosses like Kingpin, Tombstone and Hammerhead, Assassins and theives like Scorpion & Black Cat. Allies like Daredevil & Punisher. Imo, this would be MORE of a Spectacle than 3 Spider-Man in No Way Home. Some black & white imagery with the Symbiote, Black Cat and Mr negative. But time will tell.
Order66
Order66 - 11/22/2024, 3:33 PM
I said this in an earlier post but this should be the road map

#4 - Villains: Kingpin, Hammerhead, Tombstone, Maggia Crime Family. Heroes: Daredevil, Miles is Peter’s neighbor. Post credit: symbiote attaches itself to Peter.

Secret Wars - black suit Spider-Man.

#5 - Villains: Knull. Heroes: Venom, Miles gets his powers. Post credit scene: Miles shows Peter his powers. Peter reveals himself as Spider-Man.

#6 - Villains: Sinister Six (Vulture, Smythe, Scorpion, Shocker, Rhino, Negative). Heroes: Miles and he takes over for Peter at the end as the MCU Spider-Man. Post credit scene: Ghost Spider shows up asking Miles for help.

Miles takes over as the MCU Spider-Man for further Multiverse shenanigans with live action Spider Society and Miguel …
JayLemle
JayLemle - 11/22/2024, 3:36 PM
Ugh! Why???? NWH was PRETTY big itself. I'm not much a spider-man fan (just not an interesting enough character in the books for me), but what's wrong having a smaller storyline? Marvel has done a shit job, mostly, with the Multiverse. Let's come back down to the basics, Sony & Marvel.
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