SPIDER-MAN 4 Was Reportedly Going To Feature Two Classic Villains Prior To Script Rewrite

SPIDER-MAN 4 Was Reportedly Going To Feature Two Classic Villains Prior To Script Rewrite

According to a new rumor, the script for Spider-Man 4 originally featured a couple of classic Spidey villains before the project underwent rewrites...

By MarkCassidy - Jan 08, 2025 08:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

With so many conflicting reports and rumors relating to Spider-Man 4 doing the rounds over the past few weeks, it's difficult to get a read on exactly what's going on with the project, but several different sources have claimed that - for whatever reason - the story still hasn't come together.

The script is believed to be undergoing a major overhaul, possibly due to differences of opinion between star Tom Holland and Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige, and last we heard, the movie was still a long way from starting production because there isn’t a finalized shooting draft yet.

Scooper Daniel Richtman has now shared an update, and he believes that the script is still being worked on. He also claims that the most recent version of the story - prior to the rewrites - included two classic Spidey villains in Shocker and Scorpion.

Both of these characters have appeared in previous Spider-Man films, with Michael Mando playing a pre-supervillain Mac Gargan and Bokeem Woodbine's Herman Schultz suiting-up as Shocker in Homecoming.

Neither of these guys have been seen since, so we're not sure if the same actors would have returned, or new takes on Spidey's foes would have been introduced.

The movie has a release date of July 24, 2026, with filming reportedly scheduled to get underway around August of this year. There's still time to ensure that these deadlines are met, but delays are possible (Holland also has Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey to shoot next year, which could result in scheduling conflicts).

After reported disagreements about the best way to proceed, we've heard that Marvel Studios (Feige) and Sony Pictures (Tom Rothman) had settled on a mostly grounded story with some Multiversal elements, though the movie was still being described as an "Avengers-level event" up until very recently.

Here's what Holland had to say about the fourth solo Spidey movie in a recent interview.

"We have the best in the business working toward whatever the story might be. But until we’ve cracked it, we have a legacy to protect. The third movie was so special in so many ways that we need to make sure we do the right thing."

It seems they are still trying to figure out what "the right thing" is, but it certainly sounds like a lot of different ideas have been considered. If every rumor was to be believed, Spider-Man 4 will see Holland, Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield's wall-crawlers join forces with Venom, Ghost Rider, Black Cat, Daredevil and The Punisher to face off against Mephisto, Vulture, Knull, and an army of Symbiotes.

Hopefully, those involved with bringing Spidey 4 to the screen will come up with ideas that suit everyone and the project won't be hit with any significant setbacks.

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 1/8/2025, 8:56 PM
hope we get to see the Jackal
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GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 1/8/2025, 9:21 PM
@harryba11zack - No Jackal!!! You see this panel from ASM #149, the first comic book i ever purchased as a little POS? Nightmares. PTSD.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSU_65eN_ckvXx8YTw8nkTP65G5Xvd5OmBmdg&s
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 1/8/2025, 9:54 PM
@harryba11zack - Jack Black hates that character.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 1/8/2025, 10:50 PM
@harryba11zack -
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/9/2025, 2:33 AM
@harryba11zack - think Jackal would great to see in The Amazing Spider-Man 3. It fits that universe, and would have a compelling angle with clone Gwen

But if we're getting the Clome Saga in the MCU, they should get Jamie Bell to play one of Peter's clones.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 1/8/2025, 9:11 PM
@Skestra - nicely played
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 1/9/2025, 2:32 AM
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dracula
dracula - 1/8/2025, 9:10 PM
Spiderman 5 should be Spiderman and His Amazing Friends

But use Human Torch instead of Firestar
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/9/2025, 2:31 AM
@dracula - that's a trio that would be great to see. Not sure about it happening in a Spider-Man movie, but there must be a place for it somewhere
thedrudo
thedrudo - 1/8/2025, 9:19 PM
It’s shooting NEXT August but it’s coming out in July 2026??

MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 1/8/2025, 9:39 PM
@thedrudo - I meant this year... head's still in 2024!
OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 1/8/2025, 9:49 PM
Also, up his ass.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 1/8/2025, 10:22 PM
@OriginalGusto1 - happy new year to you too you old bastard 😂
OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 1/8/2025, 10:48 PM
@MarkCassidy - You as well, you Welsh bastard!
mountainman
mountainman - 1/8/2025, 9:22 PM
It’ll be a crime if we never get Mando as Scorpion.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 1/8/2025, 9:39 PM
@mountainman - the real crime is alomost 100 patriots still in jail for defending his country on January 6
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 1/9/2025, 2:34 AM
@Malatrova15 - User Comment Image
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 1/9/2025, 7:47 AM
@mountainman - couldnt agree more
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/8/2025, 9:26 PM
If true then I’m cool with Scorpion & Shocker as the villains in this tbh since the scooper makes no mention that they have been written out of the current script or not.

I could see Bokeem Woodbine coming back in full costume as The Shocker for the cold open and perhaps we get Michael Mando’s Scorpion as the main antagonist for the rest of the film….

You could even have it be a chase film or so over one night where Peter is trying to stay one step ahead of Gargan who is just trying to get his revenge.

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Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 1/8/2025, 9:38 PM
Oh boi,...looks like another Snyder cut situation is cooking....sweet.
cyclopstb
cyclopstb - 1/8/2025, 9:40 PM
I want to see Mysterio's legacy exposed and destroyed
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 1/8/2025, 9:56 PM
@cyclopstb - yeah sure...thats what the deep state wants glowie...to soil the image of a true superhero , are even aware of how many people died when Spiderman used his army of drones to betray Mysterio? ..chew on that.
Forthas
Forthas - 1/8/2025, 9:43 PM
Justice for Scorpion!!!!!

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Matchesz
Matchesz - 1/8/2025, 9:46 PM
Thats if Hollywood doesnt get burned down.. dont worry $5 billion will go to Ukraine
OriginalGusto1
OriginalGusto1 - 1/8/2025, 9:49 PM
@Matchesz - [frick]! You might be smart!
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 1/8/2025, 9:57 PM
@Matchesz - and another 10 for Bibi and the ATACMS Jets.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 1/8/2025, 11:23 PM
@Matchesz

Lol. You might be the angriest and one of the dumber individuals on this site. Every article you’re crying about “woke” or Ukraine or Biden and you don’t know wtf you’re talking about.

Do you know what military aid is? That what we’re providing them isn’t actual cash but equipment that your tax dollars go to. Do you know that our military budget for 2025 is 850+ billion dollars?

Read a [frick]ing book dude.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 1/8/2025, 11:25 PM
@OriginalGusto1

If you think this guys smart then you’re a [frick]ing dumbass, lmao. Dude hasn’t said a single intelligent thing since he’s been on this site. He literally cries like a bitch on 90% of the articles lmao.
mountainman
mountainman - 1/8/2025, 11:48 PM
@regularmovieguy - Our military budget should be drastically cut and $0 should have gone to Ukraine.

We are $36 trillion in debt and that overspending causes inflation that hurts all of us.

Maybe you’re the one that should read a book on economics. A nice short one that could educate you is “Man, Economy, and State” by Rothbard. It’s pretty short so it won’t take you too long.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 1/9/2025, 12:15 AM
@regularmovieguy - Dont invest any money at all into our country’s infrastructures. In fact cut the whole budget of the fire department in one of the most wildfire proned areas. Calling me dumb doesnt make u smart its just a gaslighting tactic used by insecure people
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 1/9/2025, 6:24 AM
@mountainman

“ Our military budget should be drastically cut and $0 should have gone to Ukraine.”

Lol. Does no one here know how military aid works? We’re not sending blank checks of cash for Ukraine to do whatever they want with.

And no where did I state that we’re not overspending on our military. But this equipment is already bought and paid for and generally is older and not good to us.

“We are $36 trillion in debt and that overspending causes inflation that hurts all of us.”

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OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 1/9/2025, 6:25 AM
@regularmovieguy - "He literally cries like a bitch on 90% of the articles lmao."

Pot, meet kettle.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 1/9/2025, 6:43 AM
@Matchesz

Biden passed an 1.2 trillion dollar infrastructure bill in 2021 - something that many republicans voted against. Guess how much of it’s going to fight wildfires? Probably zero because they are extremely hard to fight and contain and have been happening for thousands of years. It’s not as simple as call the fire department, throw some water on it and call it a day.

“ In fact cut the whole budget of the fire department in one of the most wildfire proned areas.”

Los Angeles also hasn’t had rain in 8 months and that’s only adding to the severity of the fire. This isn’t a political disaster just like the hurricane that hit Florida this year wasn’t Desantis’ fault. This shits going to happen more and more.

I never said calling you dumb makes me smart, either. It doesn’t. You are very stupid. I’ve come to this site for years and I don’t think I’ve ever seen an intelligent or insightful comment from you. Just “man tears” crying over woke, black people, or Biden (lol).
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 1/9/2025, 6:48 AM
@OrgasmicPotatoe

Lol I don’t think we’ve ever had a conversation on this site. Did I say something that upset you?
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 1/9/2025, 6:59 AM
@regularmovieguy - I think it's funny how you complain about how others complaining, but you do it totally unprompted.

I'd suggest you buy a mirror and look into it.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 1/9/2025, 7:04 AM
@OrgasmicPotatoe

Lol. You’re right. I’m commenting less and less and, when I do, it’s usually to point out something stupid. Something I need to work on but the brain rot on this site has hit peak levels.

“ but you do it totally unprompted.”

Don’t most people usually comment unprompted? I didn’t tag you. None of us did. I don’t think we’ve ever shared words on this site.
mountainman
mountainman - 1/9/2025, 7:48 AM
@regularmovieguy - You have swallowed the corporate media propaganda well buddy. Quite a lot of actual money, in addition to the military equipment, has been given to Ukraine. Plus we are stoking tensions with the largest nuclear power on Earth for no good reason.
regularmovieguy
regularmovieguy - 1/9/2025, 8:28 AM
@mountainman

“ You have swallowed the corporate media propaganda well buddy.”

What news do you read that you consider non-corporate media? Genuinely curious.

“Plus we are stoking tensions with the largest nuclear power on Earth for no good reason.”

Stoking tensions. What is Russia going to do about it? They can’t use their nuclear arsenal - if they did it would be suicide. They have empty threats and if the Ukraine war has showed us anything, it’s showed their military is not the superpower they claim it is. They have been incredibly weakened on a global scale from economic sanctions to military loss.

And the best part of it is we don’t need to step a single foot onto Ukraine soil. They’re fighting like hell and weakening an enemy to the US.

I just don’t see how anyone can say we’re helping Ukraine for “for no good reason” unless you think Russia is somehow a friend of ours, lmao.
mountainman
mountainman - 1/9/2025, 8:42 AM
@regularmovieguy - if a country didn’t attack us or isn’t threatening to attack us, zero US dollars should go towards fighting that country. It’s a simple and moral position. Especially considering that every single military incursion that the US has made in our lifetimes has provided zero benefit to Americans (that aren’t getting rich off of it that is).

The best place to educate on why the US proxy war in Ukraine is a mistake is the amazing book “Provoked” by Scott Horton. This whole war wouldn’t even be happening had the Obama administration not instituted a coup there in 2014. That is what caused this.
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