Morbius May No Longer Be the Villainous Frontrunner for Spidey 4

Morbius May No Longer Be the Villainous Frontrunner for Spidey 4

Producer Todd Black rules out the vampire for the 4th installment...or does he?

By Keven - Jun 08, 2009 10:06 AM EST
Filed Under: The Amazing Spider-Man
Source: NYpost

-From Reed Tucker @NyPost-

While picking producer Todd Black's brain about "The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3," I asked a few questions about the upcoming "Spider-Man 4." Black was understandably cryptic, but here's what I did learn:

- Kirsten Dunst is definitely on board. Last month, director Sam Raimi was quoted as saying he didn't know if the actor was going to sign up to play Mary Jane again, but it appears that she has.

- Contrary to online rumors, it doesn't look like the script will feature a wedding between Mary Jane and Peter Parker. Black had no knowledge of that subplot.

- Also contrary to online rumors (but really, are there any other kind?), the villain will not be Morbius the vampire. Sure, vampires are hot, but Black squashed that rumor completely.

- As for who the villain will be, Black had this to say: "We're just coming up with who the villain's going to be now. We'll be shooting in New York again. Trust me, people will appreciate who we pick, because it'll be a big part of New York."

-From Keven-

I don't know if this guy is messing with us - probably not. But either way he doesn't give us much of a clue about the villian being a big part of Ny.......What the hell does that mean? My biggest guesses are Kingpin (a stupid idea considering the obvious rehashing) - or the Lizard considering the sewers of Ny? Who knows? Ideas anyone?



Looks like Morbius is probably out though unless this guy's being a total ass.
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LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/8/2009, 10:23 AM
Oh well........

SINISTER SIX!!!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/8/2009, 10:24 AM
Its leaping Lizard time!!!

ThisFan
ThisFan - 6/8/2009, 11:12 AM
all that can be said is thank god
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 6/8/2009, 1:49 PM
I always hated Morbius so I'm relieved! My hate for him aside, this film needs to make up a lot of ground so a "flavour of the month" vampire is NOT going to cut it. I'm not saying Morbius wouldn't work but it's not good throwing him in just because "vampires are hot".
alten2345
alten2345 - 6/8/2009, 2:11 PM
I love how everybody is so happy that Morbius is out. Like having an A-List villain like Venom made any difference for the suckfest called Spider-Man 3. It doesn't matter who the villain is if the script sucks.
alten2345
alten2345 - 6/8/2009, 3:07 PM
@Keven

That was an awesome come back man. Where do you come up with gems like that? You totally burned me and proved your point with that well thought out, articulated comment. GOOD JOB!

All sarcasm aside, Morbius crush? Not at all. I just laugh because 99% of the anti-Morbius arguments have been "I don't like vampires" or "Morbius is stupid" without a single rationale or reasoning behind them.

As I previously stated, they could use any of the top tier villains and it won't matter if they script sucks or if the decide to throw in "beatnik" Peter Parker again.

I've pretty much washed my hands of the Spider-Man movies after that last piece of sh*t they released. They have a lot of ground to make up in my opinion.
Supermike
Supermike - 6/8/2009, 3:43 PM
Sound like your not a comic book fan Keven since you hate everything about them
Betty
Betty - 6/8/2009, 4:49 PM
He said Morbius isnt the villain. He could still be Spidey's buddy. Not that that would be cool either.
Osiris
Osiris - 6/8/2009, 7:20 PM
I'm happy they are not using Morbius he is an ok character and i really have nothing against him but I want to see someone better like Electro or Lizard or someone really bada$$
Osiris
Osiris - 6/8/2009, 8:01 PM
@Kevin@ you really need to stop dissing just about everyone on this site or calling them idiots, your comebacks come off as moronic banter and your no better then supermike with his attempts to instigate everyone into making negative comments back which is exactly what he got you to do.

I have seen a plethora of post where you are insulting someone or just calling them names and every time I read one I feel like i just lost a few brain cells from your imbecilic ramblings, please just grow up my brain hurts.
topcat10
topcat10 - 6/8/2009, 8:17 PM
Good, vampires have been oversaturated in movies recently and we don't need any more cropping up in 'superhero' movies, unless it is logical like Blade or Hellboy. Sam Raimi likes the old school villains and Venom was not his choice for SM3, rather he was shoe-horned in at the request of Avi Arad at Marvel as he was a fan favourite. I think we are building up for the sixth film to feature the Sinister Six. Doc Ock and Sandman have been already been introduced (I know Doc Ock is supposedly dead but any comic book fan knows that no one dies forever - That could be a James Bond title!) From the original Sinister six we need Mysterio, Electro, Kraven the Hunter and the Vulture, so I would expect to see any combination of these villians being introduced over the next 3 movies.
TheShakeBake
TheShakeBake - 6/8/2009, 9:50 PM
Lizard, i predicted the second i got out of the first spidey movie that Doc Ock was gunna be in the next movie, and what do u know he was lol , it has to be Lizard

See Ya, The ShakeBake
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 6/8/2009, 10:42 PM
I PERSONALLY WANNA SEE THE LIZARD,THE LIZARD, THE LIZARD. HE'S THE ONE VILLAIN PETER IS MOST CONFLICTED ABOUT, AFRAID OF, AND ADMIRES..MAKES FOR A GREAT STORYLINE, AND ITS RIGHT DOWN RAIMI'S ALLEY..HORROR. HE'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN THE MOVIES SO IT WOULD BE A SMOOTH TRANSITION, EVEN STAN LEE SAID AN OBVIOUS VILLAIN TO BE NEXT WOULD PROBABLLY BE THE LIZARD.
10THTIGER
10THTIGER - 6/8/2009, 11:10 PM
THANK GOD FOR THAT... SAVE MORBIOUS FOR A SOLO MOVIE (UM BEIN THAT HES A UNIQUE TYPE OF VAMPIRE I THINK IT'LL WORK)IM HOPIN MARVEL DELVES MORE INTO THE SUPERNATURAL HEROES THAY HAVE. NOW... ON TO SPIDEY EVEN THOUGH LIZARD IS THE OBVIOUS CHOICE BUT BRING ON SCORPION N RHINO LOL
thwhtGuardian
thwhtGuardian - 6/8/2009, 11:14 PM
It simply has to be the Lizard. I've thought that he'd be the villain since the first movie he just fit's with raimi's style. Hopefully this is the case.

Oh and I wonder if the article will be yanked like the last spidey article.
Stumblin
Stumblin - 6/8/2009, 11:16 PM
I'm also glad Moribus isn't in the fourth installment. I mean honestly how would he really fit in the Spidey universe on screen? To regular joe schmoes he would seem out of place compared to the others which are genetically enhanced by chemicals or animal oriented. Sure you could say that's how the vampire comes along, but really, a vampire and Spider-Man? Works in comics not on screen.

And like topcat10 said, the vampire thing is being over done, and we already had a vampire hunter, why make another Marvel movie about a vampire hunt? Spidey has so many more known villains that would blend better in the universe Rami designed on screen.
Spada
Spada - 6/8/2009, 11:16 PM
im still not excited for a spiderman 4
TruePunishment
TruePunishment - 6/8/2009, 11:39 PM
I like the idea of the Lizard and Kraven, and someone said Gerard Butler as Kraven and I totally agree!
KeepItReal
KeepItReal - 6/8/2009, 11:59 PM
^^^^^Gerard Butler!^^^^ YES!! He could play him! Gerard Butler! =:p~~~~ I like him.

Kirsten Dunst... I really dislike her, and more so as MJ. I dont know if its how the script is written for the character, or the character itself, or Kirsten but I dont like her. I dont even think she brings much to the table. They should write her out. They are not even getting married in this next movie? Why bother I say. She gets on my nerves!
Scorpioxfactor
Scorpioxfactor - 6/9/2009, 12:07 AM
"SPADA" Why are you not excited about a Spider man 4. Let us know.

Okay, I say in almost all my Spidey posts. Bruce Campbell as the Spot. A quick one two three cameo, or have Spot get away and come back and get caught in Spidey 5 and you could still have the main villian storyline.
VenomIsOnMyRibs
VenomIsOnMyRibs - 6/9/2009, 12:13 AM
Only problem I have with Morbius is because the whole vampire thing seems to be drained (pun intended) of all its cinema power. Just makes me think (at least ever since that terrible plague called Twilight) that it would be like Spider-man meets Ed or whatever his name is.

In the comics he is a rather gifted and exotic character, at least for a take on a vampire. He would bring a different approach to Spider-man but at the moment I personaly feel it is the wrong approach at this juncture.

Spilox
Spilox - 6/9/2009, 12:42 AM
Hahaha, no more morbius. I can live with that. The whole Kraven/Lizard thing sounds good, but i would leave it for a 5th movie. Give me Mysterio, Rhino or Vulture instead!

@Keven, good job at holding back ;). No one can expect you to go cold turkey :P. And some things just have to be said :D
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 6/9/2009, 3:27 AM
alten2345 - My rationalisation for not wanting Morbius is that if he was in, it would most likely be just because "vampires are hot". He would be thrown in the same way Venom was thrown in. I agree with you that to some extent it doesn't matter who the villain is as long as he's written into the story nicely. As a perfect (personal) example, I always hated Doc Oc in the comics and even cartoons so I was more than sceptical when I heard he was in SM2, but he turned out to be one of the best on screen villains this genre has seen!
shadowboxer
shadowboxer - 6/9/2009, 4:52 AM
no king pin, he has been done with DD.
Go wih someone new
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 6/9/2009, 5:13 AM
THING WITH MORE THAN ONE VILLAIN-WHEN YOU HAVE TOO MANY CHARACTERS WEATHER THEY BE NORMAL OR NOT, IT ALL HAS TO BALANCE OUT, IF EVERYTHING DOESNT INTERCONNECT ITS GARBAGE, TOO MANY STORIES AND DRAMAS WILL BE CONFUSING AND TOO MUCH TO TAKE IN..NOW LIZARD AND KRAVEN JUST MIGHT WORK-DOC CONNORS INVENTS THE RECOMBINATOR,TURNS INTO THE LIZARD,KRAVEN HEARS OF THE LIZARD MAN OF THE SEWERS AND WANTS TO MAKE A TROPHY OF IT,PETER,NOT ONLY DEALING WITH PRE MARITAL PROBS, FINANCES, NOW HAS TO STOP THE LIZARD AND KRAVEN.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 6/9/2009, 5:16 AM
Morbius could have worked but im glad its not him. NY centric villain? Could be any of them! Im not going to speculate anymore because they will keep feeding us these bits of info which are more than likely bullshit, just like Raimi did with Morbius.

Lizard!!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 6/9/2009, 5:54 AM
Osiris @ ; )

Jojo @ lol!

An yep, its gotta be = THE LIZARD!!! Hopefully that will lead to a SINISTER SIX, even if thats part 5 or 6! Oh, an i cant remeber who said it, but the opening should be straight in the action with THE RHINO against SPIDEY, for the first five minutes or so!!! We're blown away straight away!!!

Oh id love to see MORBIUS in a SPIDEY movie, though i always hoped we'd see him up against BLADE on the big screen too! Wel for abit of it anyway lol! : D
Retribution13
Retribution13 - 6/9/2009, 6:18 AM
Electro?
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 6/9/2009, 7:13 AM
I haven't read a comic book in years, but back in the day I kind of thought Morbius was pretty cool. He always had this weird sort of misery because he screwed himself up so badly.

But anyway I never believed for a minute that Raimi was going to do that. He was just messing with our heads.

My feeling is that they will go with the Lizard, and that would be SO awesome. And also I will submit this humble opinion: If I was Raimi, I would look at the plot element of a monster on the loose in NY as a chance to introduce a certain big game hunter..

THAT would be awesome.
Stumblin
Stumblin - 6/9/2009, 7:22 AM
I like to copy and paste Wikipedia too Mr. Jojo Risin.
Shaman
Shaman - 6/9/2009, 7:33 AM
Big part of the city??? They're obviously going for Kingpin with Electro. I mean, with the success of InFamous and everything??? Oh yeah, we're getting Kingpin and electro.
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