MAN OF STEEL Star Kevin Costner Reflects On Jonathan Kent's Controversial Death Scene

MAN OF STEEL Star Kevin Costner Reflects On Jonathan Kent's Controversial Death Scene

Horizon: An American Saga star Kevin Costner has reflected on his Man of Steel role as Jonathan Kent and weighs in on the character's still very controversial death scene. Find his comments in full here...

By JoshWilding - Jun 29, 2024 07:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Man of Steel

After helming comic book adaptations like 300 and Watchmen (both of which had previously been described as "impossible" to put on screen), Zack Snyder seemed a perfect fit to helm 2013's Superman reboot, Man of Steel

The DC movie has a lot of fans, but also some highly divisive elements. The destruction of Metropolis, Superman's inability to save innocents, and the hero's decision to kill General Zod are chief among them. However, the death of Jonathan Kent is also a major sticking point. 

In the movie, Clark Kent allows his adoptive father to die - at his behest - to stop the world from finding out he's Superman. The scene didn't have the impact Snyder expected, with many arguing that the Kryptonian could have quite easily rescued Jonathan. 

Kevin Costner reprised that role in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Zack Snyder's Justice League. In an interview about his new movie Horizon: An American Saga, the legendary actor reflected on his stint in the DCEU and the now-infamous death scene. 

"It's just my luck to be in a superhero movie and be the only person that's normal," Costner joked. "I was like, 'Really? I can't fly? And I can't put my first through the wall? Maybe I should have read this thing closer. I'm a farmer?' So I looked at that and I said, 'Ok, I can be that.'"

"I thought it was rooted in doubt," he said of Jonathan's fateful decision. "But there was no doubt that he puts his hand up and says, 'Stay there' to his son."

Back in April, Snyder shared his thoughts on the scene and argued that it was the right decision. 

"The conversation is exactly what he says to Lois...I let my father die to protect the idea that my father was trying to protect," the filmmaker explained. "The idea that I wasn't ready to be outed to the world because I wasn't Superman. I'm just a teenager that could've made a mess of it. I have the power to do it, but have I ever used my powers in this way?"

"'I trusted that his vision for what I could be was bigger than him,'" Snyder added, talking from Clark's point of view. "'This little incident in Kansas was not the thing that was going to expose me to the world.'"

We expect to see a far more heroic Man of Steel in James Gunn's Superman, with Ma and Pa Kent still alive when the story takes place. You can hear more from Costner in the player below.

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FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 6/29/2024, 7:33 AM
Superman would’ve saved him anyway. That’s why Snyderman sucks ass water
lvcl
lvcl - 6/29/2024, 9:45 AM
@FireandBlood - Times have changed and so have comics stories. In 1978, no one could imagine with the means at the government's disposal that they could capture Superman, to do experiments on him, like an alien. It was a pretty twisted thought for that time to do that savage thing to a Superhero. Nowadays, the stories have evolved and such a situation is quite common, so I understand that in Man of Steel, Johnattan just wants to protect a young Clark from being captured and experimented on before controlling his powers.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 6/29/2024, 11:07 AM
@lvcl - I understand what they were going for, but it didn’t work, mainly because Superman is Superman and would not of let it run.
roboticJohnson
roboticJohnson - 6/29/2024, 11:08 AM
@lvcl - jonathan sacrificing himself to protect clark from the government or the world or whatever makes sense, clark letting his father die makes me think he's an a-hole
Fogs
Fogs - 6/29/2024, 12:02 PM
@FireandBlood - Agreed. That was a bad scene alongside the "maybe you should've let the kids die" one.
lvcl
lvcl - 6/29/2024, 1:36 PM
@roboticJohnson - Not an a-hole, just a kid. That scene makes him a little bit more human. It's like watching Thor washing dishes by hand. A scene to try to make the character more human and not a cold and unfeeling being.
roboticJohnson
roboticJohnson - 6/29/2024, 1:56 PM
@lvcl - dude, letting your father die to keep your secret is pretty cold and unfeeling imo. If you ask me the human reaction would have been to save your father, but maybe that's just me
lvcl
lvcl - 6/29/2024, 7:34 PM
@roboticJohnson - You are right! you just said it. Superman is not human, if that being existed in reality he would not have the same feelings as us and of course he knew that Johnatan Kent was not his real father
roboticJohnson
roboticJohnson - 6/29/2024, 7:40 PM
@lvcl - yeah, snyder's superman gives off that vibe, an alien who cares more about his world rather than earth and the humans
The1st
The1st - 7/1/2024, 7:48 AM
@Fogs - Yeah, that was not a Pa Kent line at all... Costner would've made a great Sam Lane though.
Fogs
Fogs - 7/1/2024, 8:46 AM
@lvcl - Wait wait, you're just saying clark didn't care enough about pa kent due to his alien nature, is that it?

And people still believe this was the ultimate version of the character?
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 6/29/2024, 7:43 AM
Superman first murder of the movie
Amaru
Amaru - 6/29/2024, 4:05 PM
@ProfessorWhy - Holy shit, been awhile since someone on this site actually made me laugh out loud. Hilarious.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 6/29/2024, 7:51 AM
Compare that death-of-Pa-Kent scene from 2013 to the one 35 years before it. The 1978 scene hits home so much harder. Notice the flawless cinematography, the correct pacing, Williams' score and the look on Phyllis Thaxter's face (as if she is not acting). Rounded out by the funeral scene at the end, all filmed in a real location in Alberta. And the the brilliant screenplay from Mario Puzo: "Then a man gets older, he's thinks differently and things get very clear. And the one thing I do know son is that you are here for a reason." This is brilliant film-making:

CerealKiller1
CerealKiller1 - 6/29/2024, 8:13 AM
@GeneralZod - That scene is the best possible comparison because it teaches Clark that with all his powers and hopes and dreams, sometimes you can’t save somebody, it’s just their time. He’s not a god. That’s why the MoS scene doesn’t work for me, it gives way too many options for Clark actually saving his Dad and ‘choosing’ not to
dragon316
dragon316 - 6/29/2024, 8:19 AM
@CerealKiller1 - also didn’t want people know his secret what he did by saving school bus his father was afraid people will tell news reporters government will take him away do tests turn him into weapon
AC1
AC1 - 6/29/2024, 7:52 AM
Even as a fan of Man of Steel that scene just didn't work. It might've played better if they'd had the actor who played the teenaged version of Clark instead of Henry, to better sell the idea that he was still just a kid who wasn't sure what to do and was listening to his father, rather than someone who very much looked like a fully grown man.

Like I get they wanted to give Henry and Kevin a scene together but it just didn't work. If Pa Kent's death scene is rooted in Clark not saving him because he's a kid who's listening to his dad and not getting involved, then Clark needs to actually be a kid. If the scene is a grown up Clark losing his father, then it needs to be a different death scene altogether. Or even if they'd just shown Clark doing something else like saving other people and just not getting to Jonathan in time, at least the would've been something.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/29/2024, 8:34 AM
@AC1 - that's a good point. Like many others I agree the scene from Superman The Movie worls so much better, but that might also be because Clark is still the kid there. And that could've made all the difference here
AC1
AC1 - 6/29/2024, 11:59 AM
@bkmeijer1 - yeah I still think the original idea of Jonathan dying of a heart attack and Clark learning the lesson that even he can't save everyone works much better, but I wouldn't have been against this twist on the death of it had been executed better
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/29/2024, 12:11 PM
@AC1 - I do think that version is more impactful
Conquistador
Conquistador - 6/29/2024, 7:58 AM
Dumbest part of the movie. Sad thing is aswell wqs that Crowe's Jor-El was more Superman that Clark from a characteristic stand point. Not Cavill's fault.
LSHF
LSHF - 6/29/2024, 7:58 AM
I see how that all made sense, but I also see how others thought it was unnecessary and Clark could have figured out a way to save him.

Pa Kent was going to die, anyway. At least, instead of a heart attack, something was learned from his death.
Either way was fine, as I didn't allow any of it to bother me.

Same with the Martha scene. It made sense, and I knew there would be a scene where Bruce would snap out of it, but others thought it could have been better.


Hell, if I kept thinking in those terms, I would have a hard time just enjoying the films I'm watching. I'm just along for the ride, so I just try to enjoy it and ignore any negative thoughts. Movies are more fun that way.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 6/29/2024, 8:07 AM
That scene works for no one, even for the fans of the movie such as myself.

There were countless other ways to execute what Snyder was trying to say with that scene.

People have often trouble understanding basic shit about his movie but when you have scenes like that? Heh...
JobinJ
JobinJ - 6/29/2024, 9:20 AM
@Doomsday8888 - worked for me
Blergh
Blergh - 6/29/2024, 9:37 AM
@Doomsday8888 - there are a few scenes that certainly did the character no favor, the neck snap can be explained away. This one kind of puts the DCEU in a definitive alternate universe that purposefully created a “darker timeline”.

It’s not like with the MCU where you watch it and feel like “yeah, this is the prime universe” but more akin to watching a darker alternate universe to the Arrowverse (something it technically is at this point)
dragon316
dragon316 - 6/29/2024, 8:27 AM
His death was controversial how many deaths in movie twister was controversial?
This scene in day after tomorrow stupid idiot news reporter
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SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 6/29/2024, 9:29 AM
My word, let it go. We get it, you don’t like that scene. You’re getting a new Supes, so move on.

Same people complaining about MoS are the same ones who think First Class and DoFP were good movies and are splooshing over the obnoxious clusterduck that will be Deadpool 3.

Bad reporting, worse writing, comments are a BO ridden circle jerk.
Blergh
Blergh - 6/29/2024, 9:34 AM
@SummersEssex - some people just have certain expectations in a movie. Especially if the character depicted is mischaracterized in their mind.

The way you’re already bashing a movie that hasn’t come out yet is pretty evident you’re angry that people won’t forget this scene as a keystone of the DCEUs failure
Blergh
Blergh - 6/29/2024, 9:32 AM
One of the many issues I have with this movie. It’s insane how this is actually the best Snyder delivered in his DC tenure
pclark
pclark - 6/29/2024, 9:39 AM
I have said it many times, the Kents (especially Jonathan) in Man of Steel would have raised a sociopath. The old 78 Superman gave us a great look at a good couple raising a man with a strong moral compass and a hopeful outlook on life. Hack Snyder just didn't get that aspect of Superman.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/29/2024, 9:51 AM
@pclark - I don’t know about a sociopath but it’s not surprising that this version of Clark became as doubtful or uncertain as his adoptive parents…

So much of Superman imo is nature vs nurture and how he turns out will be reflected by his upbringing I think.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/29/2024, 10:14 AM
Honestly , I have my issues with Zack but this scene wasn’t one of them (though I’m not a big fan of the movie overall)…

Him saving Jonathan either way, whether he ran away with him or ran to him and brought him back where he was could have exposed him since there were people around (unless I’m misremembering).

This version of Johnathan while still loving was more cautious & protective of Clark thus him sacrificing himself to keep his son safe until he felt he was ready made sense.

Idk , it worked for me though I can understand people who have an issue with it from a conceptual level aswell.

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Sicario
Sicario - 6/29/2024, 10:25 AM
The amount of people not knowing the point of the scene here. Lol. Comparing the older version to the new isn't helping your case. In the donner version, the point was as powerful as superman was he can't do everything. The point in Mos wasn't that he isn't all powerful, but how in an ever evolving complex world, the reaction to him would have been devastating to humans. Everyone looking at Mos with donner filter, that's it. Does Mos have it's own problems? Sure it does, but is PA Kent's death one of those? Absolutely not.
Forthas
Forthas - 6/29/2024, 10:56 AM
@Sicario - Agreed! It is sad how these same people give a blanket hall pass to the NUMEROUS issues in the Donner films. Anyone remember that part when Superman was going to let a bomb kill millions of people in Hackensack New Jersey so he could save his future squeeze until Miss Tessmacher made him promise not to?

Ooops....I forgot, you cannot comment on the issues (many of them the SAME or worse than Man of Steel) in the Donner films...because it is sacred. Please forgive me.....
roboticJohnson
roboticJohnson - 6/29/2024, 11:14 AM
@Forthas - both bombs would have killed millions, he just would have given priority to the one which could have also killed his friends but the number of casualties wouldn't have changed either way
Forthas
Forthas - 6/29/2024, 11:29 AM
@roboticJohnson -


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Lex Luthor TOLD Superman where the California bomb would hit. At the fault line in the middle of the dessert (an unpopulated area). In fact it DID hit that area and did not incinerate millions of people. The genius of Luthor's scheme was that assumed Superman would naturally save the people in Hackensack first and thereby would not stop his ultimate plan.

There is no escaping from this truth!
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