EDITORIAL: What happened with Arrow?

EDITORIAL: What happened with Arrow?

Why is arrow not cool anymore?

Editorial Opinion
By VictorMancha - Mar 10, 2015 03:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Arrow

Why is the third season of Arrow so wrong?

I asked myself this many times, why don't I like this anymore? Why don't I care anymore what happens to Oliver? 
These are all thoughts I had when watching Arrow this third season.

I have come to the following conclusion, it's too crowded. I feel like watching Spiderman 3.

So why is this? Why did Arrow lost her appeal? 

The first season was amazing because we got introduced to a new world, almost nobody knew who Oliver was so it was very interesting to follow him on his journey to become the arrow and how he survived the Island. So yeah, we got introduced to a new show with alot of action and great characters. 
The second Season was also great, renember how shocked we were when we saw Slade as the antagonist. He gave a real challenge for The Green Arrow and helped develop many relationships between characters. So that sounds like a very good fundament for season 3 right? So why is it so off?

Well my main point of issue is that it is too crowded, the crossover episode with the Flash was the limit. I liked Roy being Oliver's Robin, but also with Laurel there wanting to be something she's not, it's simply just to much. There is way to much side story's we have to follow because of this. The show needs to go back as how it started about Oliver, I'm okay with Roy helping but it shouldn't be about him. And I just can't take the actress that plays Laurel seriously as the Canary.  Not to mention the many pointless dialogues about don't do this it's dangerous.

Second it's the Flash, I think the focus has lost on Arrow. The Flash is like the newborn kid getting all the attention. 

I really hope they find their way back to the dynamics of the first and second season because this way it's going to lose her audience.

 

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DRJ01
DRJ01 - 3/10/2015, 4:40 AM
I feel the same way man. Maybe because I watched it on Netflix and didn't have too much time to think about it but I really hate this season. Oliver seems to be written as one noted and since the Flash is a bigger property, I guess the writers focus on that and have the interns write this. Because it's gotten really bad. And then at the end of the last episode Oliver starts killing again. WTF?? They spent so much time saying he's not a killer anymore (much to my annoyance) and then he starts doing it randomly. Just bad writing, dialogue, and overall story. So disappointing. Now the flash will suck next year when they spend their time on Supergirl.
TheRockmore
TheRockmore - 3/10/2015, 4:47 AM
This "editorial" , much like your spelling, is disappointingly poor. Structure it correctly, actually add some content, and then try to get people to take your opinion seriously.

Also @DRJ01 ... did you see anyone die? Because it was confirmed none of the League members died... also "Now the flash will suck next year when they spend their time on Supergirl." One producer of the 3 is on Supergirl...

I find people who claim Arrow's storyline has gone down hill...really aren't very in tune...to anything,
Archangel82
Archangel82 - 3/10/2015, 5:09 AM
I agree that some of the episodes main themes get slightly lost with the inclusion of all the side stories. However I still find Arrow to be very entertaining and still believe it to be the stronger of the two CW superhero shows. Green Arrow is still one of my favorite characters and I will continue to watch the show hoping that the next season will be more focused.
Fekkius
Fekkius - 3/10/2015, 5:36 AM
I don't get the hate at all for S3. This season has been a lot more about character development than past seasons. And when it IS crowded, it's not in an obnoxious or unnecessary way.

Ollie's speech from Uprising is one of the most badass moments on TV ever, IMO.
RextheKing
RextheKing - 3/10/2015, 7:31 AM
I'm actually liking season 3, not as much as season 2 but more than season 1. I somewhat agree, with all the new characters, the show is losing a little too much of it's focus off of Oliver. Only thing is, I think the producers know this, which is why we are getting the spin off show, to take up some of those story arcs. I believe more will be coming as well... really hoping one is Birds of Prey.
VictorMancha
VictorMancha - 3/10/2015, 7:58 AM
@GentlemanlyBatman, It's my first article and I am open to any sugestions
Pasto
Pasto - 3/10/2015, 8:31 AM
It sucks. Thats pretty cut and dry.
DRJ01
DRJ01 - 3/10/2015, 9:03 AM
@Arrowverse your telling me a burning arrow to the chest and the guy falling then rolling down the hill. Plus, most likely, no medical attention. Ya he's alive alright. Just like how Arrow can get stabbed and fall down hundreds of feet and not splatter. You know what? It's possible. But highly unrealistic, like the show
MrJillyMcBeam
MrJillyMcBeam - 3/10/2015, 9:33 AM
For me at least, Arrow is better than any other comic show on TV right now. The Flash was at one point but it's been mediocre as of late (except for the firestorm parts). AoS has gone back to being garbage, and Agent Carter couldn't hold my interest. I say "right now" because I have high expectations for Daredevil.
BlackIceJoe
BlackIceJoe - 3/10/2015, 10:04 AM
I think a lot of it has to do with the producers, caring more about the Flash. So Arrow got tossed to the side like the ugly child. I think the best way to save Arrow is to embrace the crazy side of Green Arrow. What needs to happen is bring in the Liberal, wise talking man and the real Green Arrow. I also think the show needs to embrace more superpowered villains. This will make Oliver find a way to make better weapons. I don't see him using the nitrogen or napalm arrows, but the electric and net arrows could work.
VictorMancha
VictorMancha - 3/10/2015, 11:08 AM
@GentlemanlyBatman, I like the Flash so far. It's shows a lighter and easier to watch side of DC. Plus I like the chemistry between Barry and Joe. But overall I like it, it can be better and the secret identity could be better. Oh and by the way Thanks for the advice on my article.
LEVITIKUZ
LEVITIKUZ - 3/10/2015, 11:09 AM
It's simple.

Season 2 was too awesome. Season 2 was all about Oliver wanting to become more then a vigilante. He wanted to honor Tommy and that season showed Oliver become a hero and be something more then a killer which he kind of was in Season 1.

You also have Canary, Grant Gustin's Barry Allen showing up, Oliver training Roy, Brother Blood and last but not least, the badassness of Deathstroke. Sure Deathstroke's motivate was a bit weak but his badassness makes up for it.

Season 3 doesn't feel like there's a conflict as interesting as 2's.
unknownfacts
unknownfacts - 3/10/2015, 11:18 AM
Some don't like it simply cause it's not new anymore other for the Batman like approach to the overall story telling.To each his own maybe next season will be more to your like.As for me I like it just fine the way it is,is it the greatest show on television hardly but it's decent for what it is.
ThedamnBatman
ThedamnBatman - 3/10/2015, 11:24 AM
Meh, I'm still enjoying season 3 as much as I did the previous seasons, all that matters to me
Wannabe
Wannabe - 3/10/2015, 11:51 AM
Because the Flash is better so Arrow can't hide behind the mediocrity of similar series like Gotham and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
yonny616
yonny616 - 3/10/2015, 12:49 PM
Season 3 isn't bad, but just disappointing.
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 3/10/2015, 1:30 PM
Arrow was never good, so nothing has happened.
Verzwei
Verzwei - 3/10/2015, 2:47 PM
I agree with our @DrDoom
darthbatman93
darthbatman93 - 3/10/2015, 2:48 PM
I'm confused... Laurel's storyline has always been there, but now she just has a costume. Roy's storyline has always been there too. The only storyline that they have added this season that wasn't in past seasons was Ray Palmers and it isn't like he has had a super big presence in the show. At least yet. The whole point of Ray Palmer was to spin the character off, along with The Flash's Firestorm, into this new spinoff series. I won't disagree that season 2 was a stronger season than this, but your arguments are lazy, and simply just wrong. And to me, Oliver getting killed in the midseason finale was a bigger shock than Slade being revealed as the main antagonist for last season. I feel like that was kind of a given honestly.
Verzwei
Verzwei - 3/10/2015, 2:49 PM
BTW, I just saw @DrDoom last sunday morning!

acorsi11
acorsi11 - 3/10/2015, 4:11 PM
I loved Seasons 1 and 2 but HATE Season 3.

I believe that Felicity is the reason why the show is going downhill.

In some episodes, she is featured as much as Oliver and I don't think the viewers care about how she hates Malcolm Merlyn, or how she loves Oliver still. The character has been saying the same shit since Season 2, and the writers keep showing her more and more. Like every episode in a row she's been telling Ray 'You can't be a hero' or 'you'll kill yourself' which was fine the first couple times, but she says it like every episode.

The episode with the Atom introduced was the first one that I didn't mind Felicity. She actually made some funny jokes for once like she used to in Season 1, finally got over Oliver and slept with Ray, and din't act like a total bitch. When that actress is serious, it is the worst acting I've ever seen.
acorsi11
acorsi11 - 3/10/2015, 4:16 PM
Characters who I dislike:

Felicity
Amanda Waller
Lyla (Diggle's Wife)

ARGUS is retared this Season. Why tf in the flashbacks would Amanda Waller need the help of Oliver [frick]ing Queen to find that Omega Bomb. The dude can only use a bow and arrow, so why is he their top choice? Also, Oliver has the worst hair in the flashbacks. Fakest looking wig.

Diggle's connection to ARGUS seems very stretched to me, and I see noooo chemistry between him and Lyla. I forget they have a baby too. Diggle's wife and child have been so pointless so far, the writers should utilize them for something.

Also, Diggle needs some sort of costume. Not over the top, just something similar to Mockingbird on Agents of Shield. And maybe some sort of mask to cover his identity.
acorsi11
acorsi11 - 3/10/2015, 4:21 PM
But I actually do like most of the new characters. Ray (The Atom) is a very interesting character. I like his two asian friends in the flashbacks. Wildcat was ok, but very under-utilized.

I also am ok with Laurel being Black Canary. I figured she would become the character eventually, and I think the killing Sara thing at the start of Season 3 was a great bold move.

Thea and Malcolm I like too. Oliver is kinda boring this season tbh, and Diggle is just Diggle.
gmoney0505
gmoney0505 - 3/10/2015, 8:21 PM
What's wrong with Arrow?
The writers have put all their focus on The Flash and Arrow have taken the backseat. Wasn't having this mess and rushed stuff when it was just one show to focus on.

Laurel Lance is just a jacked up character. When you have to dumb down enemies in order to make her relevant, then there is a big problem.

The show is rushing too much and trying to do things because the comics did it.
The most logical thing for Team Arrow is Oliver and Diggle be out on the field and DIggle having a costume. Dig has trained the longest and is the most suitable to be out in the field.

Roy still needs to be training. He hasn't trained long enough in order to be even on Diggle level yet. It's still unbelievable to see him fighting thugs and shoot a straight Arrow.

Laurel needs to be dead instead of Sara. Why? Because Sara is the most liked character out of the two and Laurel has been a train wrecked written character since the existence of the show.

The writers need to treat Oliver's rogue with respect and come up with interesting stories with his rougue's instead of this Batman storyline. It's a shame that a character like Kamodo could not be a series bad guy especially when you here what he has done in the comics. Instead he is a villain of the week character that is struffle to the side and wasted.
gmoney0505
gmoney0505 - 3/10/2015, 8:24 PM
@Arrowverse
It's not the producer that just writing the show, most of the same writers who writer the arrow show write the flash show and it shows which show is getting the better treatment.
AgentDaleCooper
AgentDaleCooper - 3/10/2015, 11:02 PM
Diane, while I love Arrow I believe this season isn't as good not because it is crowded, but rather that it seems to be unfocused. Seasons 1 and 2 were great when they focused in on Ollie's primary baddies (Merlyn + Deathstroke). The League of Assassins has been for the most part boring antagonists. Their members are easily defeated and they are at odds with team Arrow for flimsy reasons. Yet there was that one epic moment when Ra's killed Ollie, but it was undercut by Ollie's immediate return and almost zero explanation (besides it was cold) to how he survived. Build up Ra's. Have him come to Starling. Raise the stakes a little bit and let's hope the final 8 episodes get back on track and we get a damn fine finale!
Trickwil
Trickwil - 3/10/2015, 11:32 PM
I have seen every episode of the show and I'm a fan but what i say will piss people off. It's not that Arrow got bad, it's that it's always been one thing and now we have something to compare it to and it's just not as good as other comicbook shows. Every episode of the flash moves the character forward. Every episode uses almost completely and accurately a character we remember from the comics. It seamlessly mixes humor, character development, plot, while winking and nodding at the source material. All over it's a better show. AOS does the same thing (this season) while also maintaining and setting up an expanded universe.

Compare that to Arrow that has almost offensively manipulate the source material to cover up the fact that this is a show about Batman that just inserted different names and put perfectly identical to the comic costumes on them so that you'd know who they are because they are nothing like their comic book counterparts (besides Roy) and now we've got a completely trite storyline we read in batman and saw in Batman begins. combine that with the very predictable nature of the baddy of the week stories, Olivers resurrection that felt completely pointless, the total costume party and contrived drama and you get the current season. Only character i care about is Ray Palmer.
OcciferPing
OcciferPing - 3/11/2015, 10:44 AM
I've been watching Arrow since the original Pilot and I completely agree with you about the show's quality dipping. But I don't think it's from overcrowding. I blame Season 3 for 2 reasons:

1) Tumblr. Call me crazy but A LOT of movies and tv shows now listen to Tumblr since that's where majority of fans are networked (besides Facebook and Twitter). A lot of these fans are crazed, horny teens or people with severe autism. The whole Olicity bs spawned from that. In fact, Felicity herself has become a real emotional c*** this past season so I blame them for that.

2) The Flash. I don't know if it's from there now being 2 DC shows (3 if you count this spin off), but ever since The Flash debuted, the quality for Arrow has gone down a whole lot since the creators are doing more than 1 show now.

On a side note, it could be a Dark Knight situation where the 2nd season was so incredible that nothing else can compare to it. I mean we did get Geoff Johns as the writer for that season which season 3 doesn't have. But now he's coming back for season 4 so I hope the quality goes up a lot.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 3/11/2015, 4:12 PM
They made Arrow too much like Batman.
MisterSuperior
MisterSuperior - 3/12/2015, 6:40 PM
What's wrong with Arrow?

People can't pay attention and bitch about so-called "over-crowding" but S3 is far from that. In fact, S3 has carried the strongest character arc for Oliver Queen which has somewhat started back last season with the first time he lost Queen Consolidated as well as losing his mother, Moira. This is why bringing Ra's al Ghul into the series is a natural progression as well as being a great character to use even if some would like to call it "copying Batman". Bruce Wayne would have never accepted Ra's al Ghul's offer, but what S2 started has shown a position in Ollie's life where he could do such. He lost both of his parents now, he lost his company twice, he has no personal life outside of being The Arrow and he's barely there to call himself Thea's brother. This season is asking the question of "Am I Oliver Queen or The Arrow? Can I be both or do I have to choose?" whereas Ra's al Ghul's offer is giving him a new path to take now without choosing to be Oliver Queen OR The Arrow. This season has THE strongest arc for Ollie when looking at all three seasons. That alone makes S3 the best season of Arrow so far.

And all of these side characters....they just add to S3. Roy has become the sidekick, but he's becoming his own person as Arsenal now and not just the typical sidekick; him and Laurel's transition into changing the foundation of "Team Arrow" was shown during the "Brick trilogy". Laurel's development continued from S2 but is a parallel to Ollie's flashbacks with being in brand new territory as well as learning new techniques as much as Ollie dealing with a Mirakuru-powered Slade Wilson helped him be better at dealing with a Mirakuru-powered Roy last season. Ray Palmer's storyline fits to a 'T' with taking over Queen Consolidated that in turn gives him the extra incentive in creating the A.T.O.M. exo-suit. And blame Tumblr or Twitter or whatever but yes, Ray and Felicity and Ollie are within a love triangle. A lot of shows does this, but Ray is the exact opposite of Ollie and there is a parallel that way that stays true to Ollie's arc as Ray will end up handling being Ray Palmer as well as "The Atom".
MisterSuperior
MisterSuperior - 3/21/2015, 4:50 PM
I will remember the comment below me when Arrow actually gets renewed for a fifth season.
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