AGATHA: DARKHOLD DIARIES - New Details Emerge About Billy Maximoff's Return In Upcoming Disney+ Series

AGATHA: DARKHOLD DIARIES - New Details Emerge About Billy Maximoff's Return In Upcoming Disney+ Series AGATHA: DARKHOLD DIARIES - New Details Emerge About Billy Maximoff's Return In Upcoming Disney+ Series

A few new details about Billy Maximoff's role in Agatha: Darkhold Diaries have been revealed, including his LGBTQ+ status and how the Scarlet Witch's son somehow returns from the dead. Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Sep 05, 2023 05:09 AM EST
Filed Under: Agatha: Coven of Chaos

We've known for several months that Joe Locke will play Wiccan in Agatha: Coven of Chaos Darkhold Diaries, but it appears Marvel Studios has plans for Billy Kaplan/Maximoff beyond the WandaVision spin-off. 

Billy is, of course, the name of Wanda Maximoff and The Vision's son. Alongside his twin brother, Tommy, they were wiped from existence when the Scarlet Witch took down the Hex surrounding Westview in WandaVision. While comic book fans know their teenage counterparts eventually become the Young Avengers known as Wiccan and Speed, it's not quite that simple. 

When Wanda lost her children on the page (after similarly creating them through Chaos Magic), their souls inhabited the bodies of Billy Kaplan and Thomas Shepard. So, they both are and aren't the Avenger's kids, but thanks to their "mother," the duo was granted incredible powers. 

Recently, there have been rumblings Billy's soul will take charge of the body of a dead LGBTQ+ teenager, prompting fans to express concerns the Scarlet Witch and Vision's son will only be gay due to the influence of his host. 

As a reliable scooper has now explained, Billy Maximoff is very much in love with his boyfriend Eddie, though those claims about his soul taking over an empty shell appear to be correct. That's an interesting approach but one that lines up with what we saw in the comics. 

Agatha Harkness clearly takes an interest in Billy, no great surprise when he's the powerful son of the Scarlet Witch. It's unclear whether Tommy will show up as Speed but we've heard nothing to suggest the character has been cast...yet. 

As for Agatha's role in all this, it's possible she wants Wiccan's abilities for herself or hopes to train the boy in an effort to make things right after previously crossing paths with Wanda. It depends on whether she's remaining on a villainous path or will find redemption in this spin-off. 

Marvel Studios appears to have no concrete plans for the Young Avengers in the MCU. Instead, it seems these younger heroes will just form part of the next generation of Earth's Mightiest Heroes once we bid a final farewell to the original six at the conclusion of the Multiverse Saga. 

Agatha: Darkhold Diaries doesn't currently have a premiere date.

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bobevanz - 9/5/2023, 6:11 AM
Ah, more rumors from burnt toast..
RitoRevolto - 9/5/2023, 7:47 AM
I don't know how much I like this. It doesn't sound the greatest on paper, but Marvel really has no choice. Wanda didn't create her children earlier enough in the timeline that they could naturally be born and reincarnated into other families. We'll just have to see how it's executed, I guess.
String - 9/5/2023, 7:50 PM
@RitoRevolto - I'm pretty much on the same page. I didn't like the idea at first, but reflecting on it more, I think this is the best way to describe a teenage Billy in the MCU.

The reincarnation angle being advocated by folks just wouldn't work. It's been a while since I read the original Young Avengers so I can't remember how it was explained in the comics but if reincarnation worked there, it wouldn't in live action. It would take a decade and a half to get a reincarnated baby to grow up as a teen Billy. For those advocating Billy could age himself up to explain his quick growth, Billy did that with the hex. In my opinion, with the hex, Wanda created Billy's and Tommy's bodies but there is still the open question if she created their souls. Her magic wouldn't work on them. Without the hex, Billy's soul is still magical (if it isn't he won't become the Demiurge) but he needs a corporeal body to exist without the hex. So, finding another host that exists in our reality does make a lot of sense.

On another note, Billy and Tommy were kids when John Bryne wrote them out of existence in West Coast Avengers. Their sexuality wasn't addressed because they were too young in those storylines. It wasn't until they were reintroduced in Young Avengers did, we learn they were LGBTQ+. I don't even know if it was ever discussed in the comics if Billy and Tommy were gay when they were born. So, while I understand why folks might get upset that Billy is only gay because he entered into a LGBTQ teenager, I think that anger is misplaced and will eventually subside because it is aligning with the comics.

If this is the way Marvel Studios decides to handle Billy going from WandaVision as a 10-year-old to becoming a gay teenager in Agatha. I can live with it.

RitoRevolto - 9/5/2023, 8:06 PM
@String - That's another thing I'm feeling reeeeally sketchy about re: a 10 year old's soul suddenly inhabiting that of a teenager. That's why I'm like I better wait for the show to really show us what they're going for, otherwise, I'm side-eyeing the hell out Marvel right now.

Also, was Tommy written as gay in the comics as well? I always thought that was just Billy.
SheepishOne - 9/5/2023, 8:04 AM
The more I read about it, the more I think all of these title changes will just be revealed to be episode titles. If it goes through another title change, I'll be convinced.

ImBatman4realz - 9/5/2023, 9:26 AM
@SheepishOne - I thought something similar. Maybe Agatha is trying to break free of Wanda’s curse, and so every time she almost does the title of the show she is living in changes(?).
SheepishOne - 9/5/2023, 11:46 AM
@ImBatman4realz - Exactly. WandaVision being so heavily rooted in television sitcoms at a meta level, and Agatha being sort of the "director" makes me think that element will carry over into this show. Hence all of the alliterative title changes.

Usually, it's tough for movies to go through title changes due to marketing expenses. But something being developed for and released exclusively to Disney+ allows for really as many of these as they want, especially if it's part of the show's gimmick. It's like Netflix with the "choose your own ending" experiments.

So far, we've had:
House of Harness
Coven of Chaos
Darkhold Diaries

Assuming this is a 6 episode mini-series that premieres next year, we could have 3 more title changes that ultimately will be revealed to be episode names.

That's my running theory, anyway.
ImBatman4realz - 9/5/2023, 9:31 AM
The fact that Josh is concerned about the sexuality of a fictional character doesn’t surprise me in the least.

Hollyweird’s obsession with what’s between someone’s legs and who’s in their bed is revolting.
IronMan616 - 9/5/2023, 11:01 AM
@ImBatman4realz - Josh loves gay teen boys.
NinnesMBC - 9/5/2023, 8:29 PM
I wasn't aware that their origins in that comics were THAT complicated.

I can see Agatha trying to redeem herself. Aubrey Plaza's evil witch appears to be the antagonist here.

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