DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Rumored To Feature Direct References To THE PUNISHER TV Series

DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Rumored To Feature Direct References To THE PUNISHER TV Series

With Marvel Studios bringing Marvel Television's Netflix's TV shows into MCU "canon," a new rumour suggests the plan is for the events of The Punisher to be directly referenced in Daredevil: Born Again.

By JoshWilding - Jan 22, 2024 03:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

Even before Daredevil: Born Again received a creative overhaul, we knew that Jon Bernthal would reprise his role as Frank Castle. After first playing the vigilante in Daredevil season 2 on Netflix, he later took centre stage in two seasons of the spin-off series, The Punisher

The series received a mostly positive response from fans and critics but didn't leave much of a lasting impact (unfortunately, its creative team doubled down on the conspiracy theory surrounding the death of Frank's family). 

Now, with Marvel Studios looking to win back fans who haven't taken to the Multiverse Saga as quickly as they'd hoped, a new rumour from The Cosmic Circus' Alex Perez suggests the plan is for Daredevil: Born Again to directly reference the events of The Punisher

In doing so, those Netflix shows and their newfound "canon" status will be further established in the MCU. That's important because they all have a large fanbase and, regardless of any creative missteps, appeal to an audience Marvel Studios is looking to win over with its TV-MA projects on Disney+. 

Echo offered a taste of what that will look like and if Daredevil: Born Again references The Punisher's clash with Jigsaw and what he's been up to since we last saw him, that should give Disney+ subscribers a good reason to go back and watch those Netflix shows now they're on the streaming platform.  

Taking about his return to the role earlier this month, Bernthal said, "I think there’s a reason why that character has resonated as deeply and strongly as he has. In the hearts and minds of comic book fans and first responders and people in the military and people all over the globe."

"I think there’s a little bit of Frank Castle in everybody. He exists very strongly inside me and I care about that character deeply."

"I also know that it’s absolutely essential that if we do it, we do it right and we have real sacred integrity to the source material and to what is at the core of Frank," the actor continued. "I’m gonna do my absolute best to make sure that, if and when we do it, we do it right."

The cast of the series includes Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock/Daredevil, Vincent D'Onofrio as Wilson Fisk/Kingpin, Jon Bernthal as Frank Castle/The Punisher, and Sandrine Holt as Vanessa Fisk. Michael Gandolfini, Margarita Levieva, Nikki M. James, Michael Gaston, Arty Froushan, and Clark Johnson have all been cast in undisclosed roles. 

Daredevil: Born Again will likely premiere on Disney+ in 2025/2026.

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WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 1/22/2024, 3:47 PM
"The series received a mostly positive response from fans and critics but didn't leave much of a lasting impact"

Who said that? His characterization of Castle was definitive and impactful you dodo bird.
campblood
campblood - 1/22/2024, 8:50 PM
@WhatIfRickJames - for real.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 1/22/2024, 10:32 PM
@WhatIfRickJames - I dare you look up some of the punisher threads. Everybody thought his series were mid. I enjoyed them both but people did not like them that much.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 1/23/2024, 4:28 AM
@WhatIfRickJames - I feel the complete reverse of that. I thought his series were both boring and yet he's my favorite Punisher and I love him in the role.

In fact I've been doing a Netflix Marvel binge and I decided to skip them both. But now there's a rumor that there'll be direct references to that series I guess I'll have to go back and watch them. Here comes 26 episodes of boredom.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/22/2024, 3:49 PM
tb86
tb86 - 1/22/2024, 3:50 PM
I still haven’t seen Season 2 yet or Jessica Jones’ 3rd season.
WhatIfRickJames
WhatIfRickJames - 1/22/2024, 3:54 PM
“Now, with Marvel Studios looking to win back fans who haven't taken to the Multiverse Saga as quickly as they'd hoped, a new rumour from The Cosmic Circus' Alex Perez suggests the plan is for Daredevil: Born Again to directly reference the events of The Punisher. “

Are you literally saying that the Punisher is the poultice to bridge the gap on the Multiverse Saga? You can’t be serious. Speculation at best
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 1/22/2024, 3:57 PM
I could swear Josh is lowkey turning things around with this newfound appreciation for the Netflix shows because I can remember past articles that were not a favourable light.

Anyway, what Season events from Punisher? The first one or 2nd one? I know many prefer the 1st one but for me the surrogate father-daughter dynamic between Frank and Amy made S2 for me.





incredibleTalk
incredibleTalk - 1/22/2024, 7:14 PM
@NinnesMBC - ...that end scene was a real tear jerker though...

Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 1/22/2024, 4:04 PM
Looking forward to this! Only two episodes into Echo, but so far I'd say it's very good.
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 1/22/2024, 4:11 PM
Man. Bad news for me, who hated the characterisation of Frank in the Netflix solo series. DDs2 is the best adaptation of The Punisher I've ever seen.

The headline made me think of when Banner's like "well, this all seems horrible". I would find the gif if I wasn't on mobile.
mastakilla39
mastakilla39 - 1/22/2024, 5:03 PM
@TheManWithoutFear - Ur not the only 1. They put all the good stuff in DD S2 that the actual spin off had nothing interesting left. Most of S1 is Frank jus playing surrogate father and husband to Microchip's family while Microchip watches through hidden cams? Really weird and stupid IMO.

i skipped S2 becuz S1 was so lackluster.
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 1/22/2024, 4:15 PM
I really was never a big fan of the Punisher in the comics, but Jon Bernthal portrayl on the Nexflix series won me over.

marvel72
marvel72 - 1/22/2024, 4:51 PM
@Nomis929 - I liked The Punisher because he was just a man with no powers and would take the fight to anyone.

Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/22/2024, 4:22 PM
MCU suddenly making excellent decisions.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/22/2024, 4:53 PM
@Nightwing1015 - It says Rumoured..

Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 1/22/2024, 5:10 PM
@marvel72 - Lines up with the stuff we've just seen with them canonising DD tho
hue66
hue66 - 1/22/2024, 4:23 PM
Hope they still plan on increasing/improve on the acrobatics much like how they were portrayed in She Hulk but it will be in stark contrast to how he was in Netflixs. Can it work?
Alucard28
Alucard28 - 1/22/2024, 4:35 PM
Just make everything from the Netflix shows canon and fix Iron Fist as a side character.
Repian
Repian - 1/22/2024, 4:37 PM
This scene must be important on Born Again.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 1/22/2024, 4:39 PM
liked him DD season 2, hated what they did with him in the PUNISHER show. they really need to stop over doing the roar sh1t.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 1/22/2024, 5:17 PM
@harryba11zack - I love a good primal scream


harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 1/22/2024, 5:48 PM
@JFerguson - I Hated that they brought that sh1t over to DD season 3. the show is meant to be Daredevil not DragonballZ.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 1/22/2024, 6:17 PM
@harryba11zack - what did they do I cannot even remember.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 1/22/2024, 7:31 PM
@McMurdo - They kept doing those hentai screams to power up
McMurdo
McMurdo - 1/22/2024, 10:34 PM
@harryba11zack - ohhh LOLLLL I get the dbz ref now my bad
ATrueHero1987
ATrueHero1987 - 1/22/2024, 4:44 PM
I liked the Punisher netflix series overall(his origin is convoluted). I'm just ready to see Jon Bernthal return as Frank Castle.
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 1/22/2024, 4:46 PM
S1 OF PUNISHER WAS GREAT
S2 GARBAGE
Scarilian
Scarilian - 1/22/2024, 4:59 PM
References are meaningless if you've botched your continuity and story telling.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 1/22/2024, 5:01 PM
HegoD
HegoD - 1/22/2024, 5:04 PM
Punisher, Spidey, but here are the real heroes

ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 1/22/2024, 5:11 PM
As it should. I thought Matt and Frank had a pretty good, close to comic accurate dynamic with their interactions.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 1/22/2024, 5:20 PM
Jon Bernthal punisher would have went ham on thanos ass
dagenspear
dagenspear - 1/22/2024, 5:21 PM
"real sacred integrity to the source material"

No. Only God decides sacred, not some dumb work of fiction.
Spike101
Spike101 - 1/22/2024, 5:21 PM
I’d prefer to see Frank appear in Spider-Man 4 much more than Antman, he’s a much better fit with Fisk and DD. He also has better history with Spider-Man.
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 1/22/2024, 5:34 PM
@Spike101 -

Could you imagine DD, Punisher and Kingpin in Spider-Man 4?? 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
Spike101
Spike101 - 1/23/2024, 3:30 AM
@HulkisHoly - I’m trying too 👌
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 1/23/2024, 11:13 AM
@Spike101 -

I know they would have to tone DD and Punisher to work in a spidey film but I think they could make it work.
Spike101
Spike101 - 1/23/2024, 12:21 PM
@HulkisHoly - Yes I’d agree, there is always some middle ground which should work.
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