THE PUNISHER Star Jon Bernthal Reportedly "Hated" DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Before Creative Overhaul

THE PUNISHER Star Jon Bernthal Reportedly "Hated" DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Before Creative Overhaul THE PUNISHER Star Jon Bernthal Reportedly "Hated" DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Before Creative Overhaul

It sounds like The Punisher star Jon Bernthal briefly dropped out of Daredevil: Born Again as the actor allegedly hated what was going on with the series before Marvel Studios' recent creative overhaul.

By JoshWilding - Feb 10, 2024 04:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

When the news broke in the trades that Daredevil and The Punisher star Jon Bernthal would reprise his role as Frank Castle in Daredevil: Born Again, it's fair to say fans were overjoyed. 

However, things can always change and it appears the actor may have had second thoughts about returning to the MCU. According to a fan who met Bernthal at a recent fan event, he "hated" what Marvel Studios was doing with the revival series before that recent creative overhaul and decided to turn the project down. 

After the previous writers and directors were essentially fired, The Punisher showrunner Dario Scardapane was hired to make sense of what had already been shot and to come up with new episodes. Moon Knight and Loki directors Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead, meanwhile, are at the helm of those. 

That appeared to be more than enough to bring Bernthal back and board, and it sounds like Deborah Ann Woll's return as Karen Page was a big deal for The Punisher actor as well. 

Later, the fan added, "He told me that he’s apparently been turning down [Marvel] when it comes to playing [The Punisher] over and over again because they hadn’t been getting it right, but the small part he now has in [Daredevil: Born Again] is good in his eyes."

This is a surprisingly candid series of comments from Bernthal. While we'd advise taking them with a pinch of salt given that we're not hearing from him directly, they go some way in explaining why Marvel Studios felt the need to go back to the drawing board.

The cast of Daredevil: Born Again includes Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock/Daredevil, Vincent D'Onofrio as Wilson Fisk/Kingpin, Elden Henson as Foggy Nelson, Deborah Ann Woll as Karen Page, Jon Bernthal as Frank Castle/The Punisher, and Sandrine Holt as Vanessa Fisk.

Michael Gandolfini, Margarita Levieva, Nikki M. James, Michael Gaston, Arty Froushan, and Clark Johnson have all been cast in undisclosed roles and, as part of this creative overhaul, Daredevil star Wilson Bethel will also make his return as the villainous "Dex"/Bullseye.

Daredevil: Born Again will likely premiere on Disney+ in 2025/2026. 

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TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 2/10/2024, 5:02 AM
A fan?
TheLobster
TheLobster - 2/10/2024, 5:08 AM
Wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if this was true. Marvel needs to get its head out of its ass and realize they’re no longer in the 2016-2018 era.
Origame
Origame - 2/10/2024, 7:31 AM
@TheLobster - they need to realize they don't sh!t gold.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 2/10/2024, 10:46 AM
@TheLobster -


Phase 4 spooked them and antman 3 flopping made them shit their pants.



Now you have them firing people and scaling back. A lot of the moves recently give me hope🔥❤️💪
TheLobster
TheLobster - 2/10/2024, 11:41 AM
@AmazingFILMporg - fingers crossed!! I would love nothing more than seeing MCU bounce back in a BIG way!
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 2/10/2024, 12:38 PM
@TheLobster -


They will never be back like they use to. The cbm genre just isn't it anymore.



That era is over. I'm not saying that a cbm can't be the biggest film of the year. I'm talking about a film leading into the next film and building of the other. Those days are over.



Audience is way to busy to follow and keep up. Marvel scaling down significantly is the way to go. Single stories with light connection.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 2/10/2024, 5:23 AM
Berenthal plays Frank a bit too emotional for my taste. Stevenson has been my Favorite so far.... but I will admit that Berenthal looks good in the role. He really needs a better suit now that he's been around a while. You could do a pretty valid take on the original comic book costume if it was made "tactical " and traded out the white for gray
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 2/10/2024, 9:56 AM
@ProfessorWhy - I like him when he's quite but Berenthal is always overly emotional when he's talking with other characters and he reeeeeee's way to much during the action scenes, like a quota so never comes off as natural. Not to sound rude but he really should keep his mouth shut more often cause that's where he nails it.
Saga
Saga - 2/10/2024, 10:22 AM
@ProfessorWhy - good actor i love the intensity but yeah too soft sometimes and waaaaaaaaay too short. RIP Ray the Best Punisher so far
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 2/10/2024, 10:27 AM
@Saga - when he exploded the stupid Parkour villain out of the air, he won the Best Punisher Contest
dagenspear
dagenspear - 2/10/2024, 10:55 AM
@Saga -
@ProfessorWhy -

The character ain't a robot. He's a traumatized angry psycho.
AC1
AC1 - 2/10/2024, 5:27 AM
While I'd take this with a pinch of salt I wouldn't be surprised if this was true. And if it is true then it's definitely a good sign.
Polaris
Polaris - 2/10/2024, 5:28 AM
Sounds believable to me, and fits in with some stuff Bernthal has said in the past, how he would only play the character again if they got it right.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 2/10/2024, 5:50 AM
@Polaris - But also contradicts the fact Bernthal was apart of the show, officially, before the overhaul
Polaris
Polaris - 2/10/2024, 6:25 AM
@FireandBlood - 🤔 was it official? I remember rumors the he'd be back but if marvel made him an offer that could be it (or all of this could be bs ofc)
Kurne
Kurne - 2/10/2024, 10:02 AM
@FireandBlood - he could have turned them down multiple times before he signed on last year the first time around. They asked Charlie Cox to return in 2020. Not unreasonable to think they could have been hounding Jon anytime between then and March 2023 (when he was announced for Born Again 1.0, which may have been him stubbornly agreeing for whatever reason they were able to convince him, and still hating it afterwards until the rewrites finally pleased him).
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 2/10/2024, 5:48 AM
Yeah that’s BS because he never turned down the project before the rewrite. In fact, he’s one of the actors that’s being carried over. Idk why fans make shit like this up but it’s weirdo behaviour
dagenspear
dagenspear - 2/10/2024, 10:52 AM
@FireandBlood - That doesn't make it false. It doesn't make it true. But it doesn't make it false. He could've been lying when he said he wouldn't take it unless he liked it or whatever he said.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/10/2024, 5:52 AM
They changed it to make it canon and bring back Foggy and Karen and Bullseye like the fans were asking.

Personally I think the MCU DD should stand or fall on it's own. It certainly shouldn't bring down the Netflix show with it if it falls and it shouldn't have to be judged by the Netflix shows continuity and tone either.

Because this is going to be a completely different thing. You might not want it to be the same continuity. Just saying.
Shabook
Shabook - 2/10/2024, 5:59 AM
Source: Trust me bro
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 2/10/2024, 4:47 PM
@Shabook - hahahaha best comment, u win
Nolanite
Nolanite - 2/10/2024, 7:24 AM
A fan also told me that The Flash was the greatest comic book movie in history! We all know how well that turned out.
Joshua Wilder must be digging deep for clicks these days if he's posting fan rumors as articles.
Nolanite out
BigPhilbowski
BigPhilbowski - 2/10/2024, 7:38 AM
Great so now we're getting articles based on a tweet from a random fan with literally zero evidence to back up the claims. Wilding, you're a [frick]ing simpleton. Berenthal told me last night that he's been cast as the new Kang in the mcu. Where's my article?
dragon316
dragon316 - 2/10/2024, 8:18 AM
Don’t blame him mark hammil could have done this with new trilogy he states didn’t like it what was his reason money probably
AnthonyVonGeek
AnthonyVonGeek - 2/10/2024, 8:19 AM
Why did I think of this as soon as you said “a fan met him”
Gmoney84
Gmoney84 - 2/10/2024, 8:36 AM
Hmmm…
sammac13
sammac13 - 2/10/2024, 9:22 AM
Jon this candid with a random fan? I find this hard to believe.
Kurne
Kurne - 2/10/2024, 9:56 AM
@sammac13 - have met Jon and other actors at cons before. Had a moment to chat with Jon a little while signing/moving along, asked him about TWD and he told me he stopped keeping up awhile ago, kind of respectfully shit on it while saying he still loved the cast and crew there (this was years ago while season 7 or 8 was airing I believe).

A convo like this about DD isn't impossible at all, same with any other actor at cons. Don't know why you guys think this seems outlandish.
Ocelot
Ocelot - 2/10/2024, 10:51 PM
@Kurne - It is outlandish and impossible because Jon Bernthal signed on for the series in March 2023. The decision to rewrite the series was made in October 2023. 7 months after Bernthal signed on and filmed his scenes. Furthermore Punisher's part/story in the series isn't being changed.
LSHF
LSHF - 2/10/2024, 9:29 AM
At this point why not just make up bullshit and skip these "sources". After all, most of the rumors "are" bullshit.

So, why bother with sources? Just make it all up.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 2/10/2024, 9:34 AM
But wouldn't he have signed on to know what the show was like before the rewrite?

AndIt might be true (I believe it to a certain extent), but I do agree with many comments above that this really is scraping the barrel of ''sources''.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 2/10/2024, 9:36 AM
oh great let me guess, more bad cops, viets, and government figure heads. They are are too sh1t scared of doing the punisher justice, We'll probably never see him like the way he was back in Daredevil S2.
Saga
Saga - 2/10/2024, 10:20 AM
@harryba11zack - i would be shocked if they keep the same skull emblem
dagenspear
dagenspear - 2/10/2024, 10:50 AM
@harryba11zack - He was killing criminals in season 1 as well.
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 2/10/2024, 1:34 PM
Just more proof that Woke Disney and Woke Feige have completely lost the plot.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/10/2024, 1:47 PM
Disney Marvel don't be pussies and give him the Skull logo.
Cleander
Cleander - 2/10/2024, 7:47 PM
This site must know my absolute hate of this character to be churning out unprofessional articles like this to anger me lol
Ocelot
Ocelot - 2/10/2024, 10:37 PM
We know this isn't true because Bernthal signed on before the rewrites.
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