LOKI: Tom Hiddleston Responds To The Possibility Of Time Slipping To Revive Iron Man

LOKI: Tom Hiddleston Responds To The Possibility Of Time Slipping To Revive Iron Man

With reports that Marvel is looking to bring back the original Avengers, Tom Hiddleston was asked if Loki's new time-slipping powers could help him visit a fallen character like Tony Stark/Iron Man.

By MattIsForReal - Nov 11, 2023 09:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel

Now that Loki's second season has come to an end, there are all sorts of theories and speculation as to what will come next for the character and his role in the MCU. Marvel hasn't officially commented on the future of the character and the writers of the Loki series have already confirmed there are no plans for a third season. But what about the character himself?

With all his newfound powers, Loki figures to play a prominent role in the future of the MCU. What that role will be, however, remains up for discussion amongst fans until we get the final word from Marvel.

In the meantime, Loki star Tom Hiddleston is now doing the press rounds now that the SAG-AFTRA strike has ended, and his first stop was The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon. Hiddleston was asked about the finale itself and offered some insightful commentary on his 14-year journey with the character.

The conversation then took a turn as Fallon asked Hiddleston about some theories about the show and how it potentially ties into future MCU projects. One of the theories Hiddleston was asked about was the idea of using time-slipping to go out and find characters who have already been killed off in the MCU, like Tony Stark, aka Iron Man.

The question stems from Variety's recent report that Marvel was looking to bring back the original Avengers for a movie. Naturally, this would involve reviving fallen heroes like Robert Downey Jr.'s Iron Man and possibly even Scarlet Johansson's Black Widow, both of whom were killed in Endgame.

The question definitely drew some "oohs" from the intrigued crowd, and Hiddleston tried to navigate the spoiler minefield as best he could without actually revealing anything.

"I mean, time slipping technically gives Loki some interesting... moves he can make. I suppose, yeah, he can move from past, present, future. I know that I can time slip. I don't know that other characters can time slip. Speaking for myself, Loki's died a few times, come back -- I'm still here. So I don't know that death is necessarily -- I mean death is up for grabs as an existential question. That's all I can give you."

As others have speculated, Loki's new time-slipping power technically means he can visit Tony Stark anywhere on a timeline where he's still alive. Naturally, there are some concerns that bringing back Robert Downey Jr. would diminish the character's death and sacrifice in Endgame, but as we've seen in Loki, variants of a character aren't always the same. It's possible that Tony Stark in another timeline is completely different than the one we saw. But then, would the character's return really be as significant if it's not Robert Downey Jr.'s version?

This was only one of the interesting theories Hiddleston was asked about. He was also if Miss Minutes was controlling everything all along and, perhaps more intriguingly, if Loki's finale sets up Deadpool 3 or Avengers Secret Wars. Hiddleston's answers were far less juicy, but there are leaked story details that seemingly provide a connection.

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harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 11/11/2023, 9:26 AM
once they introduced "paper weights" it was all over.
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/11/2023, 9:32 AM
@harryba11zack - I get that Infinity Gems from one universe wouldn't work in another.

But using them as paper weights was a mistake.
Origame
Origame - 11/11/2023, 9:41 AM
@marvel72 - that would technically be a plot hole since they took the infinity stones from different timelines to use in endgame.

Remember, it's established different universes are different timelines.
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/11/2023, 9:51 AM
@Origame - I thought it would be OK if they took from the same timeline like in Endgame.

I thought shit wouldn't work if you tried getting the stones say from Aligator Loki universe.
Origame
Origame - 11/11/2023, 9:59 AM
@marvel72 - but it's not the same timeline. By entering the timeline and making changes like knocking out the past cap, it branches the timeline.

Remember, the standard set by loki as to what creates a branch is someone coming to work slightly late.
Timerider
Timerider - 11/11/2023, 10:33 AM
@Origame - that was when the timelines and universes were separated, since we can have Deadpool and the X-Men cross over to other universes, means those infinity stones should work now. Maybe Mobius saves the day and grabs a handful of them or maybe Deadpool, who knows.
dragon316
dragon316 - 11/11/2023, 6:17 PM
@Origame - how thanos is able teleport , how thanos knows all locations of all stones all but one and somehow gamura is only one person who knows last location of last stone thanos needs there’s many unanswered questions especially Bucky be called white wolf never have answer
Origame
Origame - 11/11/2023, 6:28 PM
@dragon316 - ...what? Literally all of that is explained.

1) Thanos teleports because he has the space stone.

2) he knows where the stones are because he has agents all over the universe. He didn't know where the soul stone was because he sent Gamora to look for it, hence she's the only one WE know about who knows the location.

3) bucky is called white wolf because that's the name wakanda gave him (because, you know, he's a lone white guy in an all African nation).
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 11/12/2023, 6:11 AM
@harryba11zack - as much as I enjoy the MCU, no greater truth has been told on these boards

They doubled-down in that in the finale w the brief mention of the Quantum Realm as a ‘616 holding room’

TVA is vastly overpowered and that is a problem going forward
bobevanz
bobevanz - 11/11/2023, 9:29 AM
[frick] Iron man. He's dead
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 11/11/2023, 9:34 AM
@bobevanz - you forget that Disney practices in necromancy
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/11/2023, 9:58 AM
@harryba11zack -
Bringing back Iron Man and the OG Avengers would just be an acknowledgement of their failure at this point.
tylerzero
tylerzero - 11/11/2023, 10:09 AM
@Scarilian -

I, for one, would welcome such a display of humility.

WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 11/11/2023, 10:20 AM
@Scarilian - the failure was getting rid of them
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/11/2023, 10:25 AM
@ChocolateMousse -
Agreed to an extent, but bringing them back now would serve as an acknowledgement of their failures in Phase 4/5/6.

It'd also erase a lot of the weight of Infinity War/Endgame, undoing character sendoffs.
Timerider
Timerider - 11/11/2023, 10:55 AM
@bobevanz - yes, he’s dead. I’d still like to see a Tony Stark from a universe where he was a failure, Pepper was killed or murdered, and he’s this shell of a man, he’s not the Tony we know, he’s an alcoholic and at the bottom of the barrel in life.

The Avengers show up because he’s the only Tony left that can help them. At first, he doesn’t want to help or do anything to help them, but he finally agrees after seeing pictures of Pepper and Tony’s daughter. They sober him up, he gets cleaned up and he builds them what they need with the help of OG Tony’s daughter and he saves everyone.

This way, we get a Tony Stark that changes the world, but he’s not the OG Tony and doesn’t negate original Tony Stark’s sacrifice.
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 11/12/2023, 6:16 AM
@Scarilian - it was happening since April 26, 2019

If you really believe that that Variety article actually revealed a look into the in er sanctum then you’re officially a ‘mark’

The plan was always to break the band up and reunite them for the nostalgic reunion tour

If you believe otherwise them you have no clue how the entertainment industry works
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 11/12/2023, 6:19 AM
@Timerider - a lot of good stuff in here

Have to wonder about the ability to render all of that in what is sure to surpass ‘Infinity War’ in terms of an already thoroughly packed ‘Kang Dynasty’
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 11/11/2023, 9:30 AM
Would it be reviving though? It's still time travel, so anytime Loki time slips he just creates a branch. Stark's death already happened so that cannot be undone. Stark being alive due to Loki interfering would only create a branch.
marvel72
marvel72 - 11/11/2023, 9:30 AM
They'll all be back sooner or later. Disney Marvel know that these new characters are pretty much supporting characters and not good enough for their own shows and movies.
Origame
Origame - 11/11/2023, 9:42 AM
Death only happens when they can't get money anymore.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 11/11/2023, 9:53 AM
@Origame - lol i'm laughing at this cuz i hate to admit it but its partially true
Origame
Origame - 11/11/2023, 10:00 AM
@MotherGooseUPus - yeah. Only reason my dad died last year is because his solo movie bombed at the box office.

FYI, my dad was the kind of guy to laugh at that.
SethBullock
SethBullock - 11/11/2023, 9:52 AM
Why would Loki need to revive Tony?
Timerider
Timerider - 11/12/2023, 9:20 AM
@SethBullock - so Tony Stark and Victor Timely can rebuild the machine and Loki can go home to Valhalla.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 11/11/2023, 9:55 AM
Disney now that Loki S2 has saved the multiverse BS:

Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/11/2023, 10:05 AM
Just a few off the top of my head:
• The Time Machine they used for Avengers Endgame still exists, they could just use that.
• Hulk knows how to build a Time Machine if it was dismantled also.
• Rocket also knows how to build the Time machine if anything happens to Hulk.
• Nebula also knows how to build the Time Machine as Thanos used her information to get to present day
• Ant-Man knows he can manipulate the Quantum Realm to Time Travel
• Kamala Khan can time travel if her bangle is damaged, even without the bangle the power comes from her meaning she can time travel
• America Chavez can multiverse travel and time travel
• Doctor Strange can multiverse travel
• Clea can multiverse travel
• A time/multiverse travelling device exists in the Quantum Realm and was left behind by Kang, it just needs a power source that Janet knows how to make

They have endless ways of bringing back characters, its why the franchise is so devoid of stakes at the moment because nothing matters.

Loki himself just rebooted the entire multiverse after the entire multiverse was destroyed
JonC
JonC - 11/13/2023, 11:19 AM
@Scarilian - what people seem to forget is we live in the age of computers... anyone could access Tony's files on how to create the machine if they are savvy enough.
WhateverItTakes
WhateverItTakes - 11/11/2023, 10:19 AM
They have taken the MCU way too far. Nothing ground level will seem valid
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 11/11/2023, 10:26 AM
Solid ending to the show. He doesn't need to go back and revive anyone or change anything. He now exists to allow the multiverse to exist. He can step in and provide information to help fight Kang, but he is a facilitator now, not an actor.

These season went really slowly for me, and I felt like in each episode they would start to do something and then the very end or the beginning of the next episode made it all for nothing, rinse and repeat. It just felt like it was going nowhere and maybe could have been condensed down into one or two episodes and included with Season 1, but once he was becoming King Loki or Time-God Loki or whatever we're calling him it made it all make sense. Not sure if it was really intentional, but that kind of fruitless journey we were on through the season made his ascension make sense. He was stuck, too and realized all of his efforts were frivolous and he needed to be something more.

Shaky ride, but what an ending. And now he's not villain Loki pulling the strings from the shadows, he's god Loki making sure there are strings to pull. I don't even know how much he needs to show up anymore, but I hope he does so that the other heroes understand.
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 11/12/2023, 6:27 AM
@SummersEssex - the full-circle irony of the counterpoint of his newfound role as the loom in order to allow free flow and free will contrasted against his ‘free will is the great lie speech (paraphrase)’ was SO well done
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 11/11/2023, 10:49 AM
All they have to ask is: Where is Tony Stark now?
Itwasme
Itwasme - 11/11/2023, 10:54 AM
Personally, I don't see bringing them back as a winning strategy. Maybe they can get by with one with the right context, but bringing them all back would likely lead to short term gains and that's it. Marvel's success has always been long-term thinking. They need to look beyond today and the disruptions from the pandemic (and possibly now the strike) and focus on the fundamentals that got them here in thr first place.

Just my take.
SauronthePower
SauronthePower - 11/12/2023, 6:30 AM
@Itwasme - they were always coming back regardless of the company’s standing

The inevitable reunion tour WAS the long-term thinking
Itwasme
Itwasme - 11/12/2023, 2:15 PM
@SauronthePower - I suppose I would say that for a one-off, but I don't think it was to permanently bring them all back. Could be wrong though.
Himura
Himura - 11/11/2023, 2:52 PM
Undoing the biggest sacrifice of Endgame doesnt seem like a good idea
kg8817
kg8817 - 11/11/2023, 4:03 PM
I’ve said it a million times and I’ll say it again:

The multiverse has to end. There’s too many “undoing” opportunities it brings.

Endgame meant something. And that something boiled down to “whatever it takes”. Secret Wars has to mean something to give it quality.

By Loki doing what he’s doing right now, Kang’s variants run amok. So that too means for the multiverse story to end, Loki’s story has to fully end too. This Loki wasn’t meant to survive.

So, the solution needs to be that Secret Wars has weight: every character that features and returns is fighting to save the 616/sacred timeline and once it’s saved, all timelines will be destroyed and the multiverse will cease to exist. They have to know that their timeline/reality will end and they will die.

Why would multiversal heroes fight to save the 616 and agree to die? Great question; not mine to figure out. But Marvel needs to figure it out. Technically going this route means it would impact the events of Logan, but maybe they can figure that out too. But that’s what needs to happen.

But for the “saga” to end, the multiverse has to end too.
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