Lauren Schuler Donner And Gavin Hood Talk About The Wolverine Sequel And The Wolverine Blu-Ray Release

Lauren Schuler Donner And Gavin Hood Talk About The Wolverine Sequel And The Wolverine Blu-Ray Release

Check this press interview out were Lauren Schuler Donner talk's about what could have been and Gavin Hood sticks his foot in his mouth.

By jman1977 - Sep 11, 2009 08:09 AM EST
Filed Under: X-Men
Source: www.latinoreview.com

Do you think the fans are starting to get more excited about adopting Blu-ray?

Gavin Hood: Certainly from my side, yes, but then we’re here in L.A. and we’re folks who love movies of a certain quality. I think it’s the same with all new stuff, whether it’s the iPhone or Blu-ray. The fact is, it’s not going to go away, it’s only going to replace. It’s a better technology, just as we lost VHS at a certain point. I think it’s a wonderful new medium and I was as surprised as anyone when they told me that it could actually do stuff like a live feed. That’s incredible. The next step is, what, I don’t know, if we decided we really want to add a deleted scene we could [upload] it to you on your Blu-ray. Is that possible?

[A member of the Fox marketing team says yes, it’s possible.]

Does the success of the first film give you greater liberty to take an original approach or does it put more pressure on you to maintain truth to the source material?

Lauren Schuler Donner: I think it’s our responsibility to remain true to the source material. There are other influences and other factors that make us deviate from it, the first of which being transcribing it to the screen. We certainly are fully aware of the fan base and try in every way possible to stay close to the source material. I think in ‘Wolverine’ it was a little bit different because there was a lot of different source material, a lot of different legends in Victor Creed’s relationship to Logan and Logan’s background. There were some choices we had to make. Certainly in ‘Wolverine 2,’ in the Japanese saga, we will stay very close to the source material. I think it’s just best that way.

Jman: Lauren if it is your responsibility with the sequel it sure as hell was your responsibility with X-Men Origins: Wolverine. What hapened there? Oh, ok no comment.

Gavin Hood: The truth is, what freaked me out a little when I was doing my research was that I was looking for the definitive origin story of Wolverine. And, of course, any of you who know the comics know that doesn’t entirely exist because this guy’s been written about for 40 years by many different writers, different illustrators. Wolverine’s been drawn wearing a yellow spandex suit and he’s been drawn about wearing jeans and a jacket. The truth is, all of these versions are from source material. The origin story of him as a kid and the bone claws happening and the hint that Victor Creed may be his half brother. In the original draft, when we looked at it without him being a half brother, there wasn’t as much emotional connection between the hero and the villain. So we had to make the choices that were right for this movie. That doesn’t mean there aren’t other options that other writers have written. I just prefer to do a movie with him in jeans and a leather jacket rather than yellow spandex. (Laughs)

Jman: HEY, hey hey Gavin, the fans want to see Wolverine in his suit!!!! Give us what we want!!!!!!

Do you also look to more recent Wolverine material for possibilities to draw from?

Lauren Schuler Donner: There are 40 years of material. Chris Claremont, they’re still writing. Chris is writing an amazing series right now where Wolverine’s killed, Storm is the villain. Sure, one day I’d love to that.

Gavin Hood: I think that’s the joy of this character. He isn’t just one thing. He’s this great icon that can be played by different people and different people get different [things] out of him in different ways. Everybody has their own interpretation.

There are similarities between Wolverine and the James Bond franchise. Do you see the strength of Logan’s character to be able to sustain such a long franchise?

Lauren Schuler Donner: Yes, that would be wonderful. There’s enough comic book material to support it. If we were to make up our own story, which we’ve never talked about, personally I would do it with Chris Claremont. I would stick with the creator.

One of the deleted scenes shows a young version of Storm. Did any other characters appear that got cut?

Gavin Hood: Other than Storm, I don’t think so. Storm’s the only one that didn’t make the movie because there’s only so many characters you can put in without it feeling a little cluttered. Lauren made the point, I think rightly, that none of the other movies have Storm giving any hint of having met Logan.

Given that this is part of a franchise and there are alternate endings where he’s drinking to remember, did you give thought to what a potential sequel might be?

Gavin Hood: I knew everyone was excited by the story in Japan, which I then read and I absolutely do think is a wonderful story and they should do it. But it didn’t effect 99 percent of the film we were making. He moves to another land, so no, I think we were focused on the film we were making because we didn’t know if there would or wouldn’t be a sequel.

Gavin, you’ve talked about pouring through the 40 years of material when you came into this. Aside from the Japan story-line, were there other stories besides what you used that you thought you might put aside for a sequel if you got that chance?

Gavin Hood: I just think that the Japanese story is so iconic and beautiful and could be so visual. That’s the one and I’m reluctant to talk about others because I know Len [Wein]’s writing others now. And honestly, here’s the truth: if the Japanese story works, there might be another sequel. And if it doesn’t, there won’t be. You can get ahead of yourselves by sort of stirring up rumors of what might be. I’m not going to even go there.

I don’t even know if I would be involved. Right now I’m not attached. Nobody’s attached. They’re developing a script and we’ll see where everybody is. I’m hoping to be shooting something next year and I don’t think that ‘Wolverine’ will be ready for next year. I haven’t been approached one way or another. The studio is obviously very cautious. They want to see how Wolverine does on DVD. Let them develop the script, let’s see what the script looks like, let’s see how the studio feels about the script, how Hugh feels about it and then we’ll take it from there.

Jman: That was a nice interview. It showed us that Gavin Hood is a tool and thinks what the fans want is a complete joke. It also verifies that Lauren Schuler Donner reads what is on the Internet because she would have never known the main problem with X-Men Origins: Wolverine was that the writers did not stick to the source material if she hadn't. These two shouldn't be allowed near a movie set with any of their ideas. If a normal person screws up on their job they get moved or fired. If Lauren Schuler Donner And Gavin Hood screw's up on their job they get a press release and a second chance. Makes no sense to me. After reading this interview I am very worried about any future X films especially with these two hanging in the wings.

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LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/11/2009, 8:14 AM
Ive soooooooooooo gotta buy this baby!

Cant wait lol, not! ; D
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/11/2009, 8:15 AM
Hey, maybe the EXTRAS are better that the actual movie lol!

Heh heh.

Great article though and so true! @ JMAN! ; )
TheNameIsBetty
TheNameIsBetty - 9/11/2009, 8:26 AM
Why are you guys acting like A-holes?

I don't see how he was a tool. He had a very valid argument. You guys are mean....

Like I said before, maybe you read too many comics. It was an entertaining movie. Its not like the movie changed the comics.
texasboy
texasboy - 9/11/2009, 8:27 AM
At least Hugh Jackman has embraced the Wolverine character. And I don't think he'll suffer the Shatner Syndrome.

I think the main problem with the X-men movies is that continuity was messed up at the beginning. It makes it hard to tell a proper backstory if the first film has everything mixed up.
Bamf7
Bamf7 - 9/11/2009, 8:31 AM
Well, it sounds like she read what was on the internet and KNOWS what was wrong with the first movie. Maybe she's just learning from her mistakes.

Gavin Hood? Yeah I agree with ya there. Nice read.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/11/2009, 8:40 AM
There was no back story of WOLVERINES in the X-Movies that could've made it BORIGINS, they just manage to screw it all up from start to finish, the acting of some was really good though, but that's about it! ; )

Come on, how hard would it have been to do a decent WOLVERINE ORIGIN?!?

Answer, not hard at all!
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 9/11/2009, 8:42 AM
Well as long as their not PIMPING loads of X-SPIN OFFS in WOLVERINE 2, it should be really good!

And YES to the SUIT! Even if its just for a few minutes!!!
JohnnyKrypton
JohnnyKrypton - 9/11/2009, 8:53 AM
Lauren dear, Chris Claremont is not Wolverine's creator...
Jman, I get your point but I think you're coming off a bit harsh here.
jman1977
jman1977 - 9/11/2009, 9:04 AM
I dont think so, in fact I think I'm being a bit to light on both of them. Do you guys wanna see a Wolverine suited up? OR just Hugh Jackmen in the next 4 X-men films? I for one want to see Wolverine as he is in the comics. I like Hugh Jackmen, he is a talented actor, but put the mask on already. If Gavin hood does not want to go give the fans what they want then they need to find a director that will. They should have stuck to the source material with X:Men Origins Wolverine but they wanted to try and make there mark on the industry, it didnt work, so now they are back peddeling. If we as fans "Go Light" on them then we as fans will be the ones who get to watch the mess they turn out!
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 9/11/2009, 9:07 AM
I LIKED WOLVERINE, IT WAS COOL, SURE HE TOOK LIBERTIES, BUT THATS WHAT EVERY DIRECTOR DOES..FANS ARE HARD TO PLEASE HELL IM HARD TO PLEASE, I WOULDVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN IT MORE CLOSER DONE TO THE ORIGINS GRAPHIC NOVEL, BUT YOU SEE WHAT HE DID? HE PUT MORE IN FOR SHOW...ITS FILM, THAT WHAT THEY DO TO MAKE MONEY..I DONT BLAME THE GUY.I HOPE ZACK SNYDER DOES SOMETHING IN XMEN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT DONE TRUE TO SOURCE, EVEN IF HE TOOK LIBERTIES IN WATCHMEN, YOU GOTTA ADMIT, MOST OF IT WAS ON POINT.
Boogie138
Boogie138 - 9/11/2009, 9:09 AM
the movie failed beasue aside from wolvie and sabertooth you could have placed any other "supporting" character and switch the roles with someone else and the story would have been the same. all the muties in the movie had no purpose at all, and as a fan i find that unaceptable. allow me to explain:

gambit: shows up for no other reason than to tell logan were to go next, then show up at the end for no reason. oh yeah, also to give the dude a ride... please! take out gambit and throw in deadpool. movie would have worked the same, same outcome, didn't matter it was gambit, anybody could have filled those shoes

Blob: since deadpool is now taking gambtits roles, blob becomes stykers experiment to fight wolverine at the end. deadpool gets his "scar'd face" in the ensuing battle at climax.

see my point, nobody really mattered, it felt like they had generic roles and just put names and faces fans knew into those roles. i could go on and on with the enitre cast but won't. my point is as a fanboy i can forgive changes to a story in service of making a complete picture, not everything can translate well onto the big screen, i get that. but this movie felt "thin" to me. it wasn't complete crap, but i walked out feeling nothing afterwards, at least if i really hate a movie, it made me feel something, made me react. this movie left me feeling empty, like a watched a popcorn action movie that you know other people will dig and yet you don't really have any interest in seeing it again.

even x-men 3 had some great redeeming qualities (beast!!!) that allows me to watch it and rewatch it and after time makes me feel like its on par with X1 (good but sloooooow, and storms toad line is just as bad as "im the juggernaut bitch"). wolvies solo effort didn't work for me, and im not going to get into fanboy complaints because friends who saw it with me who know nothing about comics agreed the movie felt stale and every peep who pops up on screen only distracts from the wolverine/sabertooth story that was the real meat of the flick.

sloppy
HeckYeah
HeckYeah - 9/11/2009, 9:14 AM
I didn't want to see it in the theater...On the other hand I do look forward to seeing it on DVD & Yes it's time to see the suit!!!
MetalHead
MetalHead - 9/11/2009, 9:16 AM
Unfortunately, the mess has already been made so we might as well just take each new X-film for what it is. It sucks to say it but the fact is that we basically have to forget all of our prior knowledge-- which defeats the point of actually getting to see our favorite characters in a movie-- and try to enjoy them as a seperate entity.
TucsonRican
TucsonRican - 9/11/2009, 9:25 AM
Jackman in the mask would look every bit as silly as the D-Bags you see at conventions wearing a Wolvie Fan-made costume. Like this guy:
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or:
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Even those guys don't wear the mask! Shit!
Phoenixtorn
Phoenixtorn - 9/11/2009, 9:29 AM
@boogie
I agree. The problem was that the characters didn't really matter, showed up as plot devices and left for no other reason.
I didn't see Gavin Hood as a dick in this article. To me it seemed like he got a bit overwhelmed and made some poor choices on an already mediocre script.
Lauren Schuler-Donner boggles my mind, why on earth is she talking about X-men Forever?!?
jman1977
jman1977 - 9/11/2009, 9:32 AM
Tucson: Yeah Batman and Spiderman wore a mask, and those fims hardly made any money at all, come on dude. If done right, which is half of all studio's problems, the mask would look bad ass.
TucsonRican
TucsonRican - 9/11/2009, 9:42 AM
Yeah, those masks helped the movie......

Just like Spider-man taking it off for everyone, especially the people in the train.

The thing is, most movie studios feel that they are paying for the actor to show his face, and that's why they have them take it off any chance they get.

The costume is a small part of the problem. And frankly, I wouldn't want to see him in it on screen.

And besides, he didn't get it till he joined Department H.
Shaman
Shaman - 9/11/2009, 10:01 AM
The mask would look bad ass to us fans but ridiculous to anybody else. Costumes are supposed to "mean" something for them to even exist! People don't just put on spandex cause it feels oh so good. Batman's costume is supposed to exist cause he's supposed to look like Bruce's worst fear. A large dark Bat. Superman's costume is alien fashion. So naturally, he wears it as a symbol of his people's existance. Ironman's armor is for flying and protection. Spider-man's costume is to hide his identity all while being in the public eye which is just what the character wants. He wants to be seen and he wants people to know that he has spider abilities, hense the suit. If he wanted to be gritty and hide in shadows, he'd have a regular ninja outfit or something. Even Cap's suit will be altered! It's a highly patriotic symbol and they'll still alter it to make it more realistic. But in regards to X-men, they are a secret ops unit! What Seal team do you know, walks into a mission in afghanistan wearing yellow and blue spandex??? Would that even be logical??? It would make no sense! As a fan i do want to see the suit but i can still grasp the logic in not having it on the big screen! Hell, i don't even see Logan as a type of guy to wear pyjamas, let alone a spandex suit! It just doesn't fit.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/11/2009, 10:06 AM
I agree, I wouldn't be bothered by Wolvie not suiting or masking up. I would like to see it, just to see it! But certainly not the yellow spandex, i mean cmon. His mask is just not a vital part of his character or alter ego like Batman or Spiderman. Yes he wears it in the comics, but in recent years he goes maskless more often than not.
TucsonRican
TucsonRican - 9/11/2009, 10:07 AM
Shaman, I'd say Amen!

Totally agree with everything you said.
WeaponX
WeaponX - 9/11/2009, 10:28 AM
Hollywood is the only place in the world where you fail, up.

God damn XO:Wolverine. LS Donner is such an bullshitter. I've not met many who talk out of her ass as much as she does. "personally I would do it with Chris Claremont. I would stick with the creator." Yeah? He created Wolverine?... you better inform Len Wein then. That dude is running around taking the credit.
I hate how she goes on and on about source material and sticking close to it yet in the same breath announces how they do a complete deviation from it. Someone should throw hot coffee in her face. That bitch sticks her oar in movies and every idea she has ends up as a negative in the over all film. The idea that Tobey Maguire not wear his Spider-Man mask for more than ten minutes at a time? - her idea.
Gavin Hood, I had such hopes for this dude. When the project first started he was talking about the character like he actually understood the idea of the character, which in hindsight, was probably him just regurgitating what someone else said to him. He "poured" through 40 years of Wolverine Material? Hmmm... well, since the character was created in 1974 that's a mathematical impossibility. Another jack-ass flogging the source material angle when its quite obvious, given the final product, he didn't read the comics and just looked at the colorful pictures with a half-wit PA who maybe has a nephew who "used" to read Wolverine filling in the gaps.

Blob, Maverick, Wraith, Deadpool, Gambit, Sabretooth, Silver Fox, Emma Frost, Cyclops... all of these characters where screwed over - so where the hell did they follow any source material? Simply establishing points without the follow through, in my opinion, isn't sticking to source material. It's being vaguely aware that some shit happened to the character in the comics but not giving much of a shit on how it actually happened.

Maverick was bastardized. Wraith was a baby-faced pussy. Blob was just a strong man. Deadpool, Jesus I felt bad for big fans of the character. Gambit, apparently has unbreakable ankles and can climb walls. Silver Fox and Emma Frost sisters? Every [frick]ing day. Sabretooth and Logan brothers? I don't [frick]ing think so, you want an emotional attachment between the two? How about Creed murdering Silver Fox? Hatred is a pretty strong connection between two people. Delving into and trying to find out why Creed has such a hate on for Logan would have been a far better angle to explore.

Those two [frick]s, well actually all of FOX should really look into what it actually means to "stick close to the source material". If you're going to claim it, [frick]ing follow through with it.

Needless to say XO:Wolverine pissed me off. Such potential down the toilet because it's in the hands of all the wrong people, making all the wrong choices. Hugh Jackman is great but there is only so much he can do against the tide of FOX and LS. Donner.
They will really [frick] up his Japan origins, so I'm hoping that DVD sales are sub-par. Last thing they (FOX) need is a good sales boost to make them think that what they did to Wolverine and that movie was a good thing.

As for masks. It can be done and it can be done successfully. All you need to do is be clever with the material you use and the design of the suits structure so it can translate well into "real world". I don't understand how people are hellbent against Wolverine in a costume yet accept Superman in a red cape with his red underwear on the outside or the entire cast of Watchmen, Batman running around in a bat costume and Spider-Man in full spandex - but Wolverine with a mask on is far fetched? If all the above heroes are acceptable to wear their costumes then in what logic is it "gay" for Wolverine to wear his?

His brown & tans could and would look good on film. Anyway someone needs to introduce Donner to an iron maiden.
MatchesMalone
MatchesMalone - 9/11/2009, 10:30 AM
Maybe they could make his suit look like the one he wears in the new X-Force comics. It has that classic Wolverine look to it but at the same time it's colors are dark gray and black, much more like a wetworks/black ops type of feel to it.
MatchesMalone
MatchesMalone - 9/11/2009, 10:35 AM
WeaponX-Very well said, my friend.
Talontd
Talontd - 9/11/2009, 10:51 AM
@SHAMAN & ROR-

+1!!!!
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 9/11/2009, 10:58 AM
WeaponX you speak quite truly sir. Everything you said is enitrely correct.

Finally someone else realizes that Schuler Donner is a big part of the problematic Fox X Men pheonomenon.
A good rule of thumb: ANYTIME you hear her name it's time to worry.

But frankly if you wanted to list everything that was bad about that movie, there would be a whole lot more than that.
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 9/11/2009, 11:02 AM
lol... Blocking optic blasts with claws lolololololol

Well that's just brilliant.

red hot admantium lololololololol

Whoever made that movie had no idea what they were talking about or what they were doing.
Talontd
Talontd - 9/11/2009, 11:04 AM
@WEAPON X-

+2!!!!


Hot d@mn, that was a good rant!!!!
WeaponX
WeaponX - 9/11/2009, 11:28 AM
@MatchesMalone - Cheers, dude.

@DarthMulder - Thanks man, haha, and don't worry I could continue on about what was wrong with that film but my rant was long enough as it was :)

@Talontd - Cheers good sir, I've been itching to get some of that off my chest.

CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/11/2009, 11:40 AM
"If we were to make up our own story, which we’ve never talked about, personally I would do it with Chris Claremont. I would stick with the creator."

chris claremont didn't create wolverine
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/11/2009, 11:44 AM
um, what source material were they going by when they made sabretooth his brother??
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/11/2009, 11:51 AM
@ mulder

exactly, cyke's optic blasts are force based, not heat based. and they've been described in the past as being capable of pulverizing adamntium. basically, blocking one with wolvie's claws would be about the dumbest thing he could possibly try, lol
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 9/11/2009, 11:53 AM
here's my take on the mask thing. I am totaly cool with how they did it.

BUT check this out: This is pre Civil War. Let's not forget that any super hero except for Captain America, and others that are sanctioned by the government are essentially vigilanties. They do great things, they save lives and defend the innocent but they still break the law.
To that end masks and gloves are kind of essential if they want to avoid getting nailed by law enforcement.

Ask yourself what is the function of a costume? It's primary function is to conceal the identity of the wearer. It's also a mode of self expression and, in the case of Batman a tool of intimidation.

For Batman and the X Men the costume is also body armor. For the Punisher, the costume does two things: it tells them who he is, and it holds his weapons, clips, grnades, devices etc.

So there is a place for masks in the movies, even X Men. It's not essential but it could work. Like Rorschach01 said above. Definitely not gaudy yellow and blue, but something cool looking and at least somewhat reminiscent of the comics
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 9/11/2009, 12:10 PM
Well corndogburgler, it maye seem like a minor point but in the past in the comics, the thing that made Wolvernine, Ultron, Lady Deathstrike, X 23, Cyber and Doc Ock so tough to beat was the unmaleability of adamantium. I always thought the whole idea of admantium was that it was indestructible. Far harder and sturdier than any other metal. Totally inert on a molecular level and inbreakable.

So if the comics ever showed Cykes optic blasts denting it then I would have to chalk that up to bad writing on that particular book.

Like for instance in one fight between Hulk and Ultron, Hulk managed to dent him. That was really stupid and bad writing.
It's not in keeping with the traditional view of the metal, and in the movie compromising the strength of adamantium compromises Wolverine's power.
luecypher
luecypher - 9/11/2009, 12:18 PM
Who cares about the costume all I want is a good movie that makes some kind of sense. Let wolverine rage out which he did more in X2 than in this piece of crap.
WeaponX
WeaponX - 9/11/2009, 12:18 PM
I agree that bright yellow and blue wouldn't work on screen. However, his brown and tans would be a good choice, if you're looking for a reason to wear it then the costume represents the colors of the clan Yashida, whom Mariko is a major part of and Wolverine loves. So he wears the costume to honor her. Given that they're going to Japan it could fit. The mask style can boil down to a tradition thing within the clan or something.

Doing a story about Shingen Yashida, The Yashida clan and its ties to the Yakuza with Silver Samurai, Matsu'o and Reiko poisoning Mariko etc. would be awesome and the perfect excuse to debut him in his best costume ever.

MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/11/2009, 12:22 PM
Seriously guys, the optic blasts being blocked, is that really such a bid deal? I mean, would you like me to list every single way Iron Man is sceintifically impossible? Yeah i know that the optic/Adamantium thing isn't even keeping with the comic mythology but who even says they heated up? It looked to me like the metal just absorbed the power of the...oh you know what, who gives a shit!

I like the movie, didn't love it and it should have been much better but there were great bits, and Schrieber was an amazing Creed, even if he wasn't as hairy as he was in the comic. Plus Hugh was class as always. Its stands up as being 10 times better than ROTF, GI Joke and Punisher Bore Zone for me anyway.
Boogie138
Boogie138 - 9/11/2009, 12:53 PM
my beef with the wovlie blocking the optic blast thing was wouldn't some of it leak through, as in between the claws? meaning shouldn't part of his bod been belted, then healed? THAT bugged me for days...
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 9/11/2009, 1:11 PM
@ Rorschach01, Hugh is always awesome, no doubt.
The Sabertooth in this one was well played... the actor (can't remember his name) did a fine job. One thing I thought they left out was the fact that beside being wild and feral because of his power, Creed is also a homicidal maniac. I was sadened that they didn't explore that.

Mr. Rorschach, what else did you like about it? This is like the first time I have heard anyone say that lol

@boogie138, yes it would have. But that doesn't matter because Wolverine SHOULD have been knocked into the middle of next week.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 9/11/2009, 1:17 PM
haha, i know its not a popular one! I dunno, maybe I was just expecting the worst after the bashing the leaked version got so I went in with low expectations. Its still got some very dodgey bits, but if you take it as a movie first and then niggle about the changes to the comic after I think its pretty good. Obviously i hated the same things as everyone else, Barrakapool, a fruity Gambit, a Blob thats fat because he over eats..but aside from all the silly stuff the story and the acting from the main cast kept me entertained.

Also, it didnt insult my intelligence. It wasn't juvenile and it didn't ask me to "leave my brain at home". They are the major offences with movies for me. How anyone could think that those cluster [frick]s of movies from Bay and Sommers were better than Wolverine is beyond me. Hood may have failed in what he was trying to do, but at least he made an effort!
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