ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Ending Explained - How That And The Post-Credits Set Up THE KANG DYNASTY!

ANT-MAN AND THE WASP: QUANTUMANIA Ending Explained - How That And The Post-Credits Set Up THE KANG DYNASTY!

We're breaking down Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania crazy ending and post-credits scene to reveal how it sets the stage for Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and who those newly introduced characters are...

By HamiltonParker - Feb 16, 2023 07:02 PM EST

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania is now rolling out in theaters across the world, and while reviews are mixed, that makes the movie no less important to Marvel Studios' Multiverse Saga plans.

In this article, we're explaining the film's ending and its two post-credits scenes, revealing what happens and how they all set the stage for Avengers: The Kang Dynasty. That includes breaking down the characters introduced in those stingers, who they are, what all this has to do with the MCU's future, and which projects they're laying the groundwork for.

Marvel Studios isn't taking this Saga in the direction many of us anticipated, and Earth-616's Avengers will need a lot of backup if they hope to overcome the true threat that's on the horizon (and it's much bigger than a mere Conqueror).

Massive SPOILERS follow, so you'll need to tap the NEXT or VIEW LIST buttons below for this Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania explainer.

Ant-Man's Last Stand

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The movie's ending makes Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania feel somewhat standalone in the grand scheme of things, so we won't waste too much time on that before getting to the Avengers: The Kang Dynasty teases in the post-credits scenes.

In an epic final battle, M.O.D.O.K. makes the ultimate sacrifice to help defeat Kang and Scott is left in the Quantum Realm to fight the villain alone after Hope, Hank, Janet, and Cassie all manage to escape.

However, The Wasp returns just at the right moment, kicking the time-travelling bad guy into his ship's Multiversal engine and killing the Variant we all assumed would be the MCU's new big bad. It seems to be a happy ending for our heroes, but Scott can't shake Kang's warning that something even worse might be coming and that it was imperative he escape the Quantum Realm.

Ant-Man brushes it off, but in a mid-credits scene, we learn who banished Kang: the Council of Kangs!

What Is The Council Of Kangs?

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We're taken to a coliseum that's surrounded by statues of Kang Variants, and it's all but confirmed "the exiled one" is dead. Rama-Tut and a Variant who looks like a cross between Scarlet Centurion (minus the scarlet) and Kid Immortus meet with Immortus, who warns his fellow Kangs that "they" are beginning to touch the Multiverse.

The raspy-voiced baddie expresses concerns that Earth-616's heroes will "kill" everything they've built as they look out at the splintered timeline we first saw in Loki, prompting Immortus to declare they must stop wasting time.

He's summoned "all of us" to this location, and it's then we see countless Kang Variants arriving and cheering wildly as they prepare to presumably wage war across the Multiverse. And yes, the comic book panel above is recreated!

So, what is this Council of Kangs?

It's Complicated...

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A concept that's never fully been fleshed out in the comic books, the Council of Kangs was led by Prime Kang and tricked by Immortus into eliminating all the divergent Kangs in the Multiverse. That was to ensure the Prime Kang would eventually become Immortus.

Neither Immortus, Rama-Tut, nor Scarlet Centurion appears to be a much earlier iteration of He Who Remains, so we presumably haven't met that Nathaniel Richards Variant yet. Perhaps he's the Earth-616 version who helps The Avengers destroy the Multiverse before creating the TVA? Then again, that's what happened last time, and history may not repeat itself.

Marvel Studios has yet to fully explain the Multiverse's rules, but it doesn't sound like Immortus has gathered his fellow Kangs to kill them; instead, he's formulating a plan to stop "them" (likely referring to The Avengers and the Ant-Man Family) from undoing what they've built.

Will Loki season 2 better explain what's happening?

Who Is Victor Timely?

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"Time is everything," says Victor Timely - Jonathan Majors is rocking an impressive moustache and crazy scientist haircut - before telling his early 1900s audience that while time shapes our lives, "perhaps we can shape it."

A scared Loki watches on, though Mobius is confused why the God of Mischief told him that Kang is "terrifying." Loki makes it clear that he is, and appears to lock eyes with the Variant before the screen cuts to black and the ominous warning, "Kang Will Return" flashes up on screen.

On the page, this Kang established his Victor Timely identity after being defeated by The Avengers. Taking refuge in 1901, Kang Prime used his knowledge of the future to turn the city of Timely, Wisconsin (which he founded) into a technological wonder, effectively shaping the Marvel Universe into the world it eventually becomes.

As for how this fits into the wider story being told, that's hard to say.

Prime Kang

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Time travel and the Multiverse are becoming increasingly muddled in the MCU, but if we look at the comics, then Prime Kang is simply a time-traveller, and we can argue that every Variant of Kang is the same person, albeit from different eras.

However, it would make more sense for Victor Timely (whose machinations may, in fact, explain why the MCU is more technologically advanced than our world), Kang the Conqueror, Rama-Tut, Scarlet Centurion, and Immortus to all be the same specific Kang. They just exist at different times, with the ultimate goal being to become the all-powerful Immortus.

All those other Kangs in the coliseum are just divergent Kangs who are mere cannon fodder, allowing Marvel Studios to focus on telling this Prime Kang's story (the Conqueror may have been exiled because he threatened their existence).

With that in mind, Avengers: The Kang Dynasty starts taking shape.

What Is Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, Anyway?

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Based on what we've now seen in Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania, we believe Avengers: The Kang Dynasty will tell the story of this Prime Kang and his attempts to rule the Multiverse as the all-powerful Immortus.

That's a much bigger tale than the comic this movie is named after and we expect the three Variants we met in the mid-credits scene to wage war on The Avengers to stop them from interfering with their plans. As for He Who Remains, that Nathaniel could be the movie's MacGuffin...or he could be a defeated Immortus who hid his true appearance.

After all, as the last Kang standing, his Sacred Timeline allowed him to write reality itself, the ultimate victory in many ways until he grew bored and offered the job to Loki and Sylvie.

What none of these Kangs may realise, of course, is that there's an even more powerful Variant - The Beyonder - who will create a new world in Avengers: Secret Wars (if the rumours are to be believed). Might that be the exiled Conqueror given untold abilities after being thrown into that Multiversal engine? We'll see...

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Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 2/16/2023, 7:34 PM
I saw the post credit leak online and was just kinda flabbergasted.
Why did they have Majors use THAT VOICE, but more importantly, why were all the Kangs literally sperging out?
Kang is supposed to be a plotting genius; not a guy who jumps up and down screaming like an animal.
It just seemed cringey and bizarre.
Reginator
Reginator - 2/16/2023, 7:34 PM
Sounds like MODOK was wasters as a one and done. Marvel screwing up again.
Humperdink
Humperdink - 2/17/2023, 2:07 AM
@Reginator -

I'm okay with not having to see a giant floating head with arms and legs in multiple films. He was funny in this movie but he's just too ridiculous to take seriously.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 2/17/2023, 3:57 PM
@Reginator - Surprised we ever got him to begin with (and thought he was done well).

He’d never work as a long-standing character.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/16/2023, 7:39 PM
48%.....

Vigor
Vigor - 2/16/2023, 7:57 PM
@marvel72 - yall some haters lol. Why is your name even Marvel
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/16/2023, 8:09 PM
@Vigor - Because there was a time when Marvel Studios were entertaining and made movies you could get excited for it was called...

The Infinity Saga Phases 1-3

Since Stan Lee has passed, it's like they don't give a shit about the comics, The characters and the fans.

They just hire cheap shitty writers and directors and they churn out as much shit as possible so they can have content for Disney Plus.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 2/16/2023, 8:57 PM
@marvel72 - I wish I could upvote this 100x's!

Another 3rd act where the 🐥 pops in and saves the leading man???




This was a wack ending in TDKR, and has been a recurring misstep sprinkled in several action films. Yknow what- to hell with it.

You want the MCU to go back to 96? So be it! I hope Image comes and kicks everyone's asses in movie and TV like it did 30 years ago.
🎤 💧
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 2/16/2023, 9:21 PM
@marvel72 - I honestly look at all of this as a good thing. I think the MCU has gotten big enough and made enough money that it isn't going anywhere anytime soon. And its not like any of their movies are outright failing financially. I also think they needed this to happen to knock it back down a few pegs.

It got too big. And now we're seeing the effects of that. There were already reports of them wanting to slow it down and scale some things back, and they've already rescheduled releases of several projects.

They need to take this all as a learning opportunity, take a long hard look at what all changed between Infinity War and now, and then make changes accordingly to get back on track.

Hopefully they aren't so arrogant to think they can keep doing what they are doing now forever. Because the MCU won't be around another 10 years if they don't do something. All one needs to do is read Facebook comments to get a good sense of the general public, and I have to say, it doesn't look good.

I'm pulling for them though.
Kurban
Kurban - 2/16/2023, 9:31 PM
@VictorAlonzo - Every film and show in Phase 4 has been this way, EXCEPT Spider-Man.

WandaVision - Female-led show.

Falcon and the Winter Soldier - Sharon kills Flag Smasher

Shang-Chi - tag-team between him and his sister. Xialing also beat him up to prove she's better.

Loki - Sylvie kills He Who Remains and kicks Loki back to the TVA.

Ms. Marvel - Female-led show.

Moon Knight - Moon Knight and Scarlet Scarab tag-team.

Eternals - Sersi is the main hero.

Thor: Love and Thunder - Jane Foster gets the final blow.

Hawkeye - Clint puts himself at Yelena's mercy/Kate defeats Kingpin.

She-Hulk - Do I even need to say it?
Kurban
Kurban - 2/16/2023, 9:35 PM
I forgot Doctor Strange, which has America Chavez defeat Wanda.

Literally only the Spider-Man films in Phase 4 have actually allowed their leading male superhero defeat the villains through his own strength and determination. Every single example is either shared with his female co-star, or else given them the honor of making the final blow. It's actually become a [frick]ing pattern at this point.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 2/16/2023, 9:50 PM
@marvel72 - Man, MCU used to be such an exciting thing. Civil War - Endgame was such a fun time. Remember when the internet went crazy over Spider-Man's reveal in the CW trailer? I miss those days
DTor91
DTor91 - 2/16/2023, 10:04 PM
@marvel72 - “Since Stan Lee has passed”

Stan Lee had zero say on anything Marvel Studios, let alone anything to do with the comics for decades before his passing.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 2/16/2023, 10:33 PM
@Kurban - my point exactly.
GreedoSarducci
GreedoSarducci - 2/16/2023, 10:58 PM
@bobevanz - Endgame will go down as one of the greatest experiences I've ever had in a movie theater. Seriously doubt it will ever be topped.
Fogs
Fogs - 2/17/2023, 3:43 AM
@DTor91 - still, things were better then.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/17/2023, 7:52 AM
@VictorAlonzo - Why thank you kind sir.
It's a real shame that this is what the MCU has become.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/17/2023, 7:58 AM
@CorndogBurglar - I agree,I want them to get back to the early phases. I want to see another Winter Soldier, that was a game changer but after Infinity War, they went in the wrong direction.

They have 80 years of great characters and stories to show and tell but they give us crap that's been out 5 minutes ago.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/17/2023, 10:31 AM
@DTor91 - But they showed more respect to the characters that he co-created and he was in pretty much every movie and on set.

Yup nothing to do with the movies.
marvel72
marvel72 - 2/17/2023, 10:33 AM
@bobevanz - Sheer excitement counting down the days to the likes of Winter Soldier and Civil War.

I use to see every movie on day of release.

Those days have long gone.
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