My opinion on Ant-Man not creating Ultron

As much as I hate "Ultron without Pym" idea, I must say... We have any other option, but deal with it and enjoy movie.

I'm not friendly with the idea of Tony building Ultron but I think that's the route they're taking.I mean it makes sense after all.

Pym doesn't need to be the creator, if Antman is Scott Lang. Which Edgar Wright has implied for as long as he's been writing it.

If there's no Pym, then logically Tony should be the one to make Ultron, considering how many drone bots he made in IM3.

Actually, there has been another interview with Whedon in which he does seem to say that Pym is not the creator. He says something to the effect that you don't need Pym to create Ultron. Now, it would not surprise me if Whedon was just trying to throw everyone off to keep early spoilers to a minimum.

Now, to the larger point of this article. Yes, you are just whining. I am so sick of this comic book fanboy "they have no respect for the source material" nonsense. Yes, they do have respect for the source material. Contrary to what most of you fanboys seem to think, having respect for the source material does NOT mean copying every single aspect of a comic's plot or a character's bio. It means keeping the basic persona of a character. Keeping the fundamentals of what makes them who they are. You whine that making Ultron is fundamental to Hank Pym. Not really. The only thing truly fundamental to him are these Pym particles that end up making him Antman (and maybe his relationship with Wasp.) Ultron was just a plot device for storylines. This is proved by the fact that there have been comics in which Ultron is not created by Pym. To me, this isn't that much different from changing Jarvis the butler to J.A.R.V.I.S. the computer, or not having Antman as a founder of the Avengers (or having Shield create the Avengers for that matter.)

But, let's pretend for a minute that creating Ultron is slightly more fundamental to the comic book Pym. These are movies, not comics. I see nothing wrong with slightly changing his story, and this is a slight change, not a huge one. There is no good reason for those making these movies to feel like they have to follow the comics to the letter if the story they're trying to tell is better served by making changes. There is much in comics that just doesn't translate to movies, and it makes no sense to attempt to do so just to keep a few fanboys from whining. The arc of the Avengers' story in these movies so far leads more logically to having Ultron created by Stark or Shield or even Banner, not by a character that hasn't been introduced yet (my guess is actually that Shield builds it, not Stark, but I can see it going either way, and as long as the story is good I don't care.)

More importantly, even if you believe that creating Ultron is fundamental to Pym, being created by Pym is not really fundamental to Ultron. And the movie is going to be about Ultron, not Pym. It's entirely possible that Pym will never be more than a minor character in the MCU, if he's even that. There is the very real possibility that Scott Lang will be Antman in the upcoming movie, and at most Pym will create the particles and have them stolen or just give them to Lang. In which case, it doesn't really matter at all if he creates Ultron or not.

You say that you'll speak with your wallet. LMAO. I don't really think Marvel is gonna go bankrupt because they don't get your $10 from a movie ticket or $20 from you buying a DVD. Even if a few thousand of you fanboys boycott it, it's not gonna hurt them. Heck, even if a couple of million did so (and I think we all know that there are not that many people who will be that upset about this), it wouldn't really affect them much. Taking $20-30 million out of a billion is not a big deal. Fanboys like you whined and moaned about the Mandarin twist in Iron Man 3, but it has become one of the top movies of all time. These movies belong to everyone, not just you fanboys. And whether you like it or not, the vast majority of the fans of these movies do NOT care whether or not Pym created Ultron. Most probably don't even realize that he's supposed to do so. So get over yourselves already.

If he just says that Pym created the programing of Ultron, and Stark designed the robotics I'd be fine with it.

If there is no mention of Pym, that is very unkind.

Avengers vol 1 #201-202.

Yeah!.......

The MCU is pretty much its own entity now and so it has to work with what it has already set up. Using Pym at this stage doesn't make sense, the audience would literally not care what happens to him.

With so many characters in an Avengers moving introducing someone like Pym enough so you would care about him would take too long.

Being offended that Pym doesn't created Ultron is a luxury only comic book fans who know enough about their comic book lore can afford. The rest of the audience just want to immerse themselves in the story.

Ummm.....first of all, I did not use the word "bitchy." I did say you were whining, which you were. In fact, that was pretty much my whole point, that you and a whole bunch of other fanboys are just whining because you're not getting things exactly the way you want them. If you read all of my comment, then you'll know that I did counter your argument, but since part of your argument was that all of you are not just whining, saying that you are in fact whining is kind of a natural part of my comments. And if you want to take me calling you a fanboy as an insult, go ahead. If had really wanted to just insult you, I promise that you would've known that you had been insulted.