THE AVENGERS Director Joss Whedon Shares His Thoughts On Agent Coulson's Resurrection

THE AVENGERS Director Joss Whedon Shares His Thoughts On Agent Coulson's Resurrection

In a new interview, Director Joss Whedon reveals that he doesn't quite agree with Agent Phil's Coulson resurrection on Marvel's Agents of Shield and he also reveals whether or not Coulson has a chance of appearing on the big screen again. Check it out!

By NightWatcher - Apr 23, 2015 07:04 AM EST
Source: Io9


Remember when you all tuned into the Avengers for the first time in 2012 and you got to the scene where Loki stabbed and killed Agent Couslon. If you do, you'd also remember how his death brought the Avengers together and them coming together eventually led to the Avengers saving New York from the alien invasion. But then, a few month later, he returned!


 
Well, it seems as though Director Joss Whedon in a new interview with Mental Floss, felt as though the decision to bring Coulson back was a bit anomalous and that his resurrection took away a certain emotion aspect in The Avengers film. Check out his thoughts below!
"A lot of people come back in The Winter Soldier. It’s a grand Marvel tradition. Bucky was supposed to die. And the Coulson thing was, I think, a little anomalous just because that really came from the television division, which is sort of considered to be its own subsection of the Marvel universe. As far as the fiction of the movies, Coulson is dead.

But I have to say, watching the first one with my kids—I had not watched the first one since it came out—and then watching it with my kids and watching Coulson die but [thinking], “Yeah, but I know that he kind of isn’t,” it did take some of the punch out of it for me. Of course, I spent a lot of time making sure he didn’t. And at the time it seemed inoffensive, as long as it wasn’t referenced in the second movie, which it isn’t."




So it seems as though we will most liekly will NOT see Agent Colson in another big screen film (unless Marvel says otherwise). He then elaborates and says how he thinks in Marvel's big films, they can't kill of a big character or anyone significant. He also tells how the "victory, no lost" aspect doesn't sit right with him while he directs his films. His thoughts are below.


"There’s a thing where you can do that so many times and there’s nothing at stake. But it’s difficult because you’re living in franchise world—not just Marvel, but in most big films—where you can’t kill anyone, or anybody significant. And now I find myself with a huge crew of people and, although I’m not as bloodthirsty as some people like to pretend, I think it’s disingenuous to say we’re going to fight this great battle, but there’s not going to be any loss. So my feeling in these situations with Marvel is that if somebody has to be placed on the altar and sacrificed, I’ll let you guys decide if they stay there."


We've had many "deaths" in the MCU so far. Bucky, Nick Fury, Tony Stark, Agent Phil Coulson, all of which who were thought to be dead. Is it true that Marvel Studios won't kill off a pivotal character in their films? Will there continue to be victory without sacrifice in their films? 

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Ouch! It seems as though Avengers: Age of Ultron will have a lot of sacrifices to go along with their victory. Will the same thing go for Captain America: Civil War? As of now, its all just a wait and see. What did you think about Agent Coulson's revival? Sound off below with your thoughts.
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Gandressmex
Gandressmex - 4/23/2015, 7:28 AM
https://instagram.com/p/10ZshcNfpi/ Avengers: Age of Ultron Mid Credit Scene...Dont say I didnt warn you
Pasto
Pasto - 4/23/2015, 7:29 AM
I don't think Coulson will be popping up in one of the films anytime soon. I believe Marvel intentionally burnt a bridge when killing him off in The Avengers, then having him receive his own TV show, so that he could have the benefit of existing in the Marvel cinematic universe without interacting with any of the upper-echelon characters.
SuperCat
SuperCat - 4/23/2015, 7:32 AM
HAILHYDRA
HAILHYDRA - 4/23/2015, 7:34 AM
I'm not crazy about the whole acting like people are dead and then bringing them back routine, but if you go back and watch Avengers, there was definitely some shady stuff going on with Fury when Coulson died. He obviously lied about the trading cards. We saw Coulson die, but right after it cut away and we never saw what Fury did with the body.

So basically I'm saying I think his resurrection was a bit cheesy, but given how it was done in the Avengers, it definitely made it seem that Fury wasn't being truly forthcoming about everything.
HAILHYDRA
HAILHYDRA - 4/23/2015, 7:41 AM
I think it was Mr. Sunday that was criticizing AOS because Coulson is so different now. Personally, I think it makes sense and I'm glad that he's a different character nowadays. I liked the old Coulson and I like the new Coulson. But there's no way you can die, be injected with Alien blood, be resurrected, have your memory tampered with, find out your memory has been tampered with, find out you were inject with Alien blood, find out that half the people you've worked with are Hydra, be made the director of SHIELD and come out the same person you were before. Any one of those occurrences, is enough to drastically change a person so it makes sense that he's different now.
Kyos
Kyos - 4/23/2015, 8:00 AM
"As far as the fiction of the movies, Coulson is dead."

This is disappointing. I wasn't happy hearing about his return at first, but the way they actually did it was pretty good imo. It's not like he just reappeared and nobody cared, it was a rather big thing (on an amittedly rather small scale compared to an Avengers movie), and it wass done in a way not likely to be repeated anytime soon.

They're doing a lot of interesting things in the show now, with possible repercussions for the larger MCU (SHIELD struggles, dealing with remnants of Hydra, Inhumans starting to get revealded etc), and Coulson is kind of at the center of all that. Like he was present for most of the important Phase 1 stories, culminating in his death motivating the damn Avengers.

I'm not saying he should get big roles in all the movies now, but I don't think excluding him from the movie side of the MCU is wise or fair. His current role in the MCU and the pure fact of him still being alive holds to much potential to just be ignored.
MercwithMouth
MercwithMouth - 4/23/2015, 8:01 AM
Someday Coulson will make his presence known to the Avengers. It'll be a wicked day.

I think his death worked well in the movie, and I think they wrote his resurrection story beautifully in AoS. It was a fantastic way to work in the Kree and the beginnings of the Inhumans. Both Whedons have done some fantastic writing in the MCU, and have really shaped the world the MCU lives in.
CommanderShepard
CommanderShepard - 4/23/2015, 8:02 AM
So its not all connected? Ok......
LMB10
LMB10 - 4/23/2015, 8:05 AM
Glad Whedon is going. He's good, but I'm looking forward to the Russos far moreso.
OneTrueLantern
OneTrueLantern - 4/23/2015, 8:09 AM
How can someone be looking forward to the Russos moreso than Whedon?

That does not compute. At all.

One is an actual accomplished writer/director who's created a some of the most influential tv shows of the last 20 years, plus Avengers and Serenity and he co-wrote Cabin in the Woods...

The others are a due of journeymen directors. I know you guys love TWS, and its a fun movie, but they're just that. These are the guys who made You, me and Dupree and [frick]ing Welcome to COllinwood.

Losing Whedon is a huge [frick]ing blow to Marvel.
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 4/23/2015, 8:13 AM
So meh on Coulson, I never cared for the character.
I just wish Fury actually died, I see no reason why he absolutely needed to live.

HAILHYDRA
HAILHYDRA - 4/23/2015, 8:17 AM
@OneTrueLantern, I would hardly say that Marvel is "losing" Whedon. As far as we've heard he's still a consultant for them.
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 4/23/2015, 8:18 AM
Losing Whedon is not a blow to Marvel at all.
The general public don't even know who Joss Whedon is, they're gonna see the movie for the heroes regardless.

The Russo did a great job with TWS, Infinity War is the time where you HAVE to focus on story over some funny one liners and a generic big battle. Although after Cap 3 we'll see if their momentum is building up, TWS proved they can do this.

I think Joss is a talented guy, some of his projects will forever be my favourites but I just can't put the Avengers movie on a pedestal
BlackPhillip
BlackPhillip - 4/23/2015, 8:21 AM
@OneTrueLantern

Yep. They don't hold a candle to Whedon.
marvelstudios
marvelstudios - 4/23/2015, 8:26 AM
COulson and his team need to be mentioned in one of the movies. Or Fury needs to show up in AOS and explain his role in AOU. Is Fury still SHIELD?
McGee
McGee - 4/23/2015, 8:26 AM
Soft and non-threatening.
McGee
McGee - 4/23/2015, 8:26 AM
Those are my thoughts on Doopie's erection.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/23/2015, 8:29 AM
I completely agree with him. Should've stayed dead. Undermines the significance of his death. However I appreciate the complexity in which he returned from the dead... there was a story and mystery. I just feel like Marvel tv thought he was so popular they had to keep him alive and seemingly give him a show. AOS could've worked without coulson and replaced him wth a comics character who's in shield. coulson needs to be mentioned....the team should know he'd alive. With all his resources, tony should be able to find out he's alive at least from maria hill
speedyg33
speedyg33 - 4/23/2015, 8:34 AM
The death of characters is an interesting topic. GoT and TWD have made it an expected element in the current climate. But in comics no one ever really dies. it's just the nature of the genre. Coulsons death served it's purpose in that moment and sure like he said when you rewatch it now. It has less impact knowing he is alive. "Luke I am you father" hasn't had the same impact since the summer of 80.
speedyg33
speedyg33 - 4/23/2015, 8:43 AM
As for Whedons departure, change is good or you get the Star Wars Prequels. even the heavy reliance on the Russos isn't good. fresh blood new takes. That's why I'm more excited about Dr Strange and even Ant-man because we are going to get a bit of what Edgar Wright envisioned.
EarOne
EarOne - 4/23/2015, 8:45 AM
but with that resurrecting thing from the long-dead Kree, they could just resurrect ANYBODY who dies in MCU, right...?? but won't that take away anything at stake from any of the future MCU stories..??
OneTrueLantern
OneTrueLantern - 4/23/2015, 8:53 AM
AoS kind of ruined Avengers for me.

Coulson's death was the thing that held the movie together (not only that, but it was one of the two biggest emotionally resonant scenes in the movie.

Now I watch it and I go... "meh, he's alive. Why should I care?".

It doesn't help that AoS underwhelms me.
OneTrueLantern
OneTrueLantern - 4/23/2015, 8:55 AM
@CherryBomb

Of course it's a blow. Maybe not because of the GA audience, but as far as talent go. With Whedon you just know you're gonna get a good script and a fun movie.

The Russos are only as good as the script you give 'em (if you disagree, check their pre-Marvel movies) and we don't know if they're gonna get a "Thor 2" or a "The Winter Soldiers".

@Ramiel

Yeah, to say otherwise is just... silly.
OneTrueLantern
OneTrueLantern - 4/23/2015, 8:58 AM
@Nomis

Something's going on, that's the second time he says something about it, not only that but he just walked out on a Billion Dollar franchise.

I'm guessing Feige tightned the leash a bit and Whedon didn't appreciated.
MisterSuperior
MisterSuperior - 4/23/2015, 9:06 AM
"As far as the fiction of the movies, Coulson is dead."

As someone who's not a huge fan of AoS, this is all I needed to hear.
speedyg33
speedyg33 - 4/23/2015, 9:10 AM
The Whedon situation compared to Snyders is interesting as well. I do think Whedon seems to be venting a bit in his interviews working under those tight restraints is very taxing. Snyders has much more control and may be able to present his vision with less interference. which is better? 5 years from now it's going to be fun to look back and see which method work best.
SAMURAI36
SAMURAI36 - 4/23/2015, 9:31 AM
Wow, Whedon is leaving, but not before pulling the curtain back on Marvel's inconsistencies..... The very same ones that many of us called out, but the Marvel Zombies acted like we didn't know WTF we were talking about.

And now that Whedon is leaving, people are chanting "I'm glad he's leaving", when they were singing his praises few months ago.

Man, the cult of Marvel is quite powerful.
AsgardianHobo
AsgardianHobo - 4/23/2015, 11:06 AM
Jcam and samuarai (admitted DC only fanatic) blocked. First ones for me! Site is getting better already! Next up mantinium and his 19 accounts and Dex.
CommanderShepard
CommanderShepard - 4/23/2015, 11:25 AM
Somewhere in a dark, smoke filled room, @grif is laughing his assistant off.
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