RUMOR: AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY's Lead Characters Have Been Revealed - Possible SPOILERS

RUMOR: AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY's Lead Characters Have Been Revealed - Possible SPOILERS

Following the news that Doctor Strange will be absent from Avengers: Doomsday, a new rumor claims to reveal the movie's lead characters and there's some fantastic news for fans of a certain superhero team.

By JoshWilding - Jan 22, 2025 03:01 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Doomsday

The next Avengers movies haven't had the easiest of journeys to the big screen. Original plans called for them to be released in the same year, with Jeff Loveness (Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania) writing The Kang Dynasty and Michael Waldron (Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness) tasked with Secret Wars.

Jonathan Majors' personal and legal issues combined with the largely negative response to the Ant-Man threequel meant Kang the Conqueror was dropped as the MCU next big bad. 

The return of directors Joe and Anthony Russo and writer Stephen McFeely later transformed Avengers 5 into Avengers: Doomsday - where Robert Downey Jr. will be the lead villain as Doctor Doom - and both Loveness and Waldron's scripts have been scrapped. 

At last July's San Diego Comic-Con, it was confirmed that The Fantastic Four: First Steps' leads will play a key role in the next Avengers movie. We don't know how much of Marvel's First Family we'll see in Doomsday, but a new rumour suggests they'll be a major part of this battle with Doom.

According to insider @MyTimeToShineH, the 2026 release will primarily focus on the Fantastic Four with Earth-616's Avengers not far behind. For fans who have complained about the foursome not being a crucial enough part of Victor Von Doom's story, this should come as a relief.

Plus, with previous reports suggesting Tom Holland's Spider-Man will be one of the movie's leads, we're one step closer to finally getting that dream team-up.

Earlier today, Benedict Cumberbatch confirmed Kang being pushed to one side means Doctor Strange will no longer appear in Avengers: Doomsday. While we'd guess the Fantastic Four was always set to appear, it makes sense for them to have a bigger role now Doom is the main antagonist. 

"[Kevin] Feige and I have kept in touch. We're pals," Downey said last year. "Favreau, Feige, and I have kept in touch. I'm close with the Russo Brothers; we have other business we're doing. Susan and I were sitting down with Feige at one point and he said, 'It just keeps occurring to me that if you were to come back...' and Susan was like, 'Wait, wait, come back as what?'"

"Then we both realised over time that it was another thing that just disproves any doubt anyone could ever have about that guy, a very sophisticated creative thinker, about how can we not go backwards, how can we not disappoint expectations, how we can continue to beat expectations? And he brought up Victor Von Doom."

"I looked up this character and I was like, 'Wow.' Later, Kevin goes, 'Let’s get Victor Von Doom right. Let's get that right.'" I can't say too much, but what is going on there right now is so beyond my expectation of what was possible," the actor added. 

Avengers: Doomsday is set to be released in May 2026, with Avengers: Secret Wars scheduled to arrive in May 2027. 

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Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 1/22/2025, 3:48 PM
WAKE ME UP...WHEN JONATHAN MAJORS END!
Vigor
Vigor - 1/22/2025, 3:48 PM
If this rumor is true then doomsday is starting to materialize. I always saw it as a two part story. Perhaps when it was kang Dynasty that was the intent

But this is shaping up to be more of a fantastic four 1.5.
Kinda like how captain america civil war was essentially avengers 2.5

They're investing hugely into fantastic four as an IP. Which gives me so much confidence they will also do xmen proper when it's their turn
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/22/2025, 4:14 PM
@Vigor - I think it and Secret Wars were meant to be 2 part in which I could have even seen Kang be the main character in the first part where all his motivations and such come to light like Thanos in IW Or how I think Doom will be in Doomsday.

People forget that before IW ,Thanos was only in Avengers ,GOTG 1 and AOU which were cameos at best.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/22/2025, 5:47 PM
@Vigor - TBH this 'scoop' doesn't make that much sense as to be an Avengers movie the lead character would be avengers or the villain. That is not to say the F4 couldn't/wouldn't be a major part of it just doesn't make tha much sense.

The idea from the start was you have a bunch of solo movies then they come together for Avengers one, if some are less keen on one or more of the solos they turn up due to loving one or more of the others. An F4 1.5 puts huge risks in play as they don't know how well it will land with the GA so if this held true how would that play out, starts with Doom killing half them so they turn to the Avengers or summut??? For Cap 3, they added value making it an Avengers light, doesn't work the other way around and more likely F4 is more important after the Avengers fail in Doomsday after only being in a supporting role first time.
Vigor
Vigor - 1/22/2025, 6:08 PM
@Apophis71 - yeah i hear you totally. I do not envy the Russos and sole writer to make this all make sense
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 1/22/2025, 3:58 PM
Wait wait wait... the Fantastic four as lead characters in a movie where Dr Doom is the main villain......... Holy F*cking sh*t!!! I never ever ever would of guessed that would be the case. Mind blown
HulkisHoly
HulkisHoly - 1/22/2025, 5:29 PM
@MotherGooseUPus -

Well, Cap 4 has The LEADER and RED HULK as its villains so honestly I am surprised.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 1/22/2025, 3:58 PM
No newcomers from phase 4 leading
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KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 1/22/2025, 4:05 PM
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NotAFanofHeroes
NotAFanofHeroes - 1/22/2025, 5:38 PM
@HashTagSwagg - Thank the heavens because phase 4 is mostly wet dog fart
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 1/22/2025, 4:08 PM
What If?!! ...we thought RDJ was Iron Man, but he was actually DOOM ALL ALONG???? 🤨
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/22/2025, 4:17 PM
Looks Steve Rogers Captain America is BENCHED for both movies but will be Captain HYDRA in Civil War.

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ThorArms
ThorArms - 1/22/2025, 4:20 PM
Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, Thor, Shang-Chi, Captain America

That's a great Avengers team right there
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/22/2025, 4:26 PM
If Doctor Doom is the big bad of Avengers:Secret Wars then Mr Fantastic should be the one to defeat him.
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 1/22/2025, 4:50 PM
good luck.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 1/22/2025, 5:05 PM
You're gonna need it.
mountainman
mountainman - 1/22/2025, 4:55 PM
This makes sense story wise, but it could pose a problem for this movie if FF isn’t well received.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 1/22/2025, 6:12 PM
@mountainman - Story wise for a second F4 film, yeh makes sense but nobody knows if their first film will be a hit or good so WAY too much risk for the studio and a disservice to all the time and projects moving pieces into place for a new Avengers film. I know not all films/projects landed well with the GA but that doesn't mean throw out the baby with the bathwater. The title is Avengers thus leads are the Avengers even if joined by the F4.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/22/2025, 4:56 PM
Ah yes, the list is only revealed after an expected major player is not in it at all. What a coincidence
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/22/2025, 5:13 PM
@bkmeijer1 - lol true.

Funny how information like this now comes to light
SATW42
SATW42 - 1/22/2025, 5:00 PM
guys, I can't stress this enough. I feel like I've beaten this horse so firmly to death.

Doom will not be front and center in F4 but will have numerous name drops to establish him and that he's a bad dude and a major presence. The stinger will probably reveal him and that he's made his way to Earth 616 and it will be clear to the audience this is not good.

Doomsday is going to be a smaller story centering around Peter Parker coming to grips with the fact that a guy who calls himself Doom looks exactly like Tony Stark. The movie will be about a coming Incursion. Doom will have "the answer" Peter will side with him because he has nobody after the spell and the likeness to Tony will be too much for him not to fall into his spell so to speak. The Fantastic Four will be trying to convince our earth 616 crew that Doom is not to be trusted. The Earth 616 crew will be kind of caught in the middle, and Strange isn't around to help sort things out. Ultimately Dooms Plan will be revealed, that he wants one universe to rule over all. Peter: How could you Mr Stark" Doom" I. AM. DOOM!!!" and his plan is successful.

Next up Secret Wars. This really isn't hard. As soon as it was announced to be Doomsday and that Peter was a central character, I knew where this was going.
Vigor
Vigor - 1/22/2025, 5:03 PM
@SATW42 - I dont think that will happen with Peter because he already got burned by that with trusting Mysterio

Plus fury was a skrull that whole time

It would be like retreading old ground if they had Peter be duped again
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/22/2025, 5:17 PM
@SATW42 - yeah. I hope not…

As Vigor said ,Peter being duped again would be a retread so rather avoid that.

I would rather Dooms mask fall off and whine still scarred us recognizable enough that Peter along with others that knew Tony have to grapple with the fact that their newest threat has the same face as the man that was the savior of the universe
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 1/22/2025, 5:24 PM
@SATW42 - Doom not being in FF because he's revealed to already handling business elsewhere is a good way to set him off.

I kinda expect him yo be purging universes, because he knows a multiverse incursion is coming unless he does something about it. And he's probably been doing that for a while
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 1/22/2025, 5:08 PM
Hooooo, boy! Just look at all these MCU tickets that Disney will have to eat!
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/22/2025, 5:13 PM
If true then while it would be cool to have FF in the forefront , it does make me concerned about impact & effectiveness…

We would have seen this version of the Fantastic Four just a movie prior and Doom will be introduced in this film (perhaps a cameo in First Steps at most if this iteration is from the same world which I hope) so idk if the impact of their rivalry ,specifically Reeds & Victors would be there for the audience since they wouldn’t really have spent any time with these versions together or know their history.

However , good writing & acting can make you invested in anything but still they would have to be really strong imo to sell all that but we’ll see.
JayLemle
JayLemle - 1/22/2025, 5:43 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I always say this, LOL, but I think Marvel is going to surprise us with balanced screen time and story. Losing Kang, as unfortunate as it is, they had to scramble to conclude this story. If Kang were the bad guy, we'd probably seeing this group in the Mutant Saga. What's a couple years early in MCU time, haha.

Domestic violence is no joke, but however you choose to look at it, Jonathan Majors did the fans a favor. I can't use this site as the prime indicator for what people's opinions are. However, people weren't that receptive to Kang. Especially since Ant-Man beat his awfully strong Kang variant in Ant-Man 3. I think that helped to dilute any excitement for Kang, and take him seriously as a villain.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/22/2025, 5:48 PM
@JayLemle - see , I find that jumping to conclusions…

Given we had been dealing with a villain that has infinite versions of himself , who’s to say the variant we saw in Quantumania was going to be the main one in the first place?:

Also it took Scott nearly being beaten to death to beat that Kang who was overthrown via a rebellion , super intelligent big ants and Hope

I’m Honestly not sure how the reception was for Kang but if they had recast the role , I think the next project could have been better as it was for Loki S2

Anyway it is what it is now but still sucks that Marvel was apparently so reactionary to all that since it’s so unlike them
JayLemle
JayLemle - 1/22/2025, 6:08 PM
@TheVisionary25 - a Black man and an injured white woman. Covid lockdowns. A terrible political atmosphere. Disney had to do damage control. From a revenue perspective, I understand Disney's decision. Disney was catching those "this is woke garbage, meerrrrr, arrrrggghhhh" strays left and right. Hell, the conservatives even found a new way to say "[racial slur]" without getting in trouble. The new "[racial slur]" is "DEI hire" LOL. (I'm Black, but do pardon my use of such a disgusting word on here). Disney definitely doesn't want those problems.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 1/22/2025, 6:11 PM
@JayLemle - oh. I’m fine with them recasting Majors and certainly understand those factors being a reason for that

However I feel like you could certainly have put a new actor in that role and no one would care much if at all but oh well
gambgel
gambgel - 1/22/2025, 5:19 PM
so its an Avengers movie but the leads will be the Fantastic Four?

sounds like a joke, sorry.
JayLemle
JayLemle - 1/22/2025, 5:23 PM
MARVEL!!! If you don't play any MF DOOM in "DOOMSDAY," you will have missed one hell of an opportunity. RIH, Mister Daniel Dumile aka METAL FACE DOOM!
BritishMonkey
BritishMonkey - 1/22/2025, 5:44 PM
"the 2026 release will primarily focus on the Fantastic Four with Earth-616's Avengers not far behind."
They're bringing the Avengers out from the comics?
Oh. You're talking about the films. It's Earth 199999 then.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 1/22/2025, 5:49 PM

I wonder how and/or if The Hulk & Thor will figure into these movies. We them to be great like they were in the first Avengers movie.

And Namor should have played a major role in these, but they ruined him.
Jackraow21
Jackraow21 - 1/22/2025, 5:55 PM
Hoping to see Wolverine and Deadpool show up as rumored. Even if they don't have huge roles.
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 1/22/2025, 5:55 PM
Boy if FF bombs, they are in big trouble. Why not call it Fantastic Four Doomsday? I get branding and all of that but audiences dont like being tricked. There are people who just go to see Avengers movies. One look at the trailer and they are out.

Especially if they didn't watch first steps.
JayLemle
JayLemle - 1/22/2025, 6:03 PM
@CreateNowSlpL8r - that could be. but this movie definitely won't bomb. Who knows if it'll make it to $1B. But, "bomb?" Highly unlikely.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 1/22/2025, 6:16 PM
I feel like the best way to connect every Multiverse movie is as follows:

Loki allowing Universe 616 to re-enter the Multiverse sent ripples across every universe including the one that Doom is in. Universe 838 begins to have an Incursion with Universe 616 due to the events of Multiverse of Madness. Clea and Strange leave to try and delay the incursion from happening. Doom enters the point of every universe from Multiverse of Madness and begins his mission to merge every universe. Every door opens and every Nexus being from each universe begins to fight doom to protect their universe. Man-Thing witnesses the others being slayed and closes universe 616 and summons Wong to warn him of what is to come. Man-Thing, The Werewolf, and a group of sorcerers guard the doorway to buy Wong enough time to assemble the heroes but it's too late.
Batmangina
Batmangina - 1/22/2025, 6:24 PM
I would love to say this fills me with excitement and that I'm stoked AF but

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