BATMAN v. SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE - Why It Really Moved

BATMAN v. SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE - Why It Really Moved

With Marvel fans touting the latest news as a success story of their beloved franchise, I think it might be time to really look at who "won" and why I don't think it really is as big a deal as everyone thinks it is.

Editorial Opinion
By TheDarman - Aug 06, 2014 03:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman vs. Superman
Source: Box Office Mojo

So, story time. It was Comic Con 2013 and it was right after the release of Man of Steel, which was viewed as the start of a new cinematic universe for DC. However, Man of Steel was more frontloaded than originally anticipated. Despite a massive opening weekend, Man of Steel detoriated fast domestically and didn't end up managing to reach the total of the previous year's superhero reboot: The Amazing Spider-Man. However, the film was largely profitable due to a large amount of promotions and product placement that pretty much paid off its entire marketing budget and then some. Warner Bros. had no reason to be upset with the results. Still, their Batman franchise had managed to make over a billion dollars the last two entries and that was without the benefit of 3D. Perhaps if Batman was with Superman, and the world got the team-up they've been dreaming of forever, DC could enjoy massive success and truly spin-off into a massive, sprawling cinematic universe. The new Batman v. Superman film was fasttracked to July 17, 2015.



However, the potential to just jump right into Justice League and finish catching up to Marvel (who would have already had two crossover films by that point) was too much of a temptation. Studio mandate after studio mandate to build the universe in this one film was pressed on and the film wasn't heading in a direction that would be respected. Kudos to Warner Bros., then, for deciding to pass up a prime date in July in order to ensure that the creative team had more time to develop a movie that would meet the guidelines they wanted and would make for an entertaining film. (Yeah, we're all looking at you Sony.) However, Warner Bros. executives decided to try to bully Marvel Studios out of yet another prime summer release date instead. They placed the new film on May 6, 2016.



Following the release of Captain America: The Winter SoldierMarvel announced that the date in which they'd scored for May 6, 2016 was really a threequel to their own patriotic superhero. Even with what many would assume to be a disadvantage, with a date of April 4, 2014, Captain America: The Winter Soldier managed to make $713,639,890 which is more than The Amazing Spider-Man 2, which had locked the first weekend of May release date, and almost as much as Man of Steel, which was received very similarly to The Amazing Spider-Man 2. This proved that you could release a superhero film at any time of the year and have it be a hit. This had to have Warner Bros. thinking that maybe they don't need the first weekend of May release date. They just need the weekend to themselves.



Captain America: The Winter Soldier also managed to double its predecessor's total in the worldwide box office, partially due to the word of mouth and partially due to its boost from The Avengers. Who is to say that it wouldn't happen again following the release of Avengers: Age of Ultron? It would be coming right off of the film and we all know how that ended for Iron Man 3 (KA CHING!). Even if Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice made more than Captain America 3 (which, let's be honest, would be really likely), would Warner Bros. be willing to stake not only the potential the film has to crack $1 billion, but also the rest of the cinematic universe on it being able to beat that film and still turn a profit?



In the end, DC fans (and CBM fans) get to see Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice sooner and Warner Bros. can maximize its profit. It doesn't need a prime release date because the whole year is open season now. All you need is a great movie, a good marketing campaign and the ability to get people excited for the film. We already know that they have a pretty good handle on the latter two (hopefully the former one is no problem) so why wouldn't they pull it forward and give fans what they want. They maximize their profits and everyone is happier for it.

DC didn't lose anymore than Marvel won. They both are the winners. And we are all the winners of this deal.
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BawbScharf
BawbScharf - 8/6/2014, 3:58 PM
This is a good article and has brought something to mind as far as release dates go: we could be looking at a two month 'off season' for films soon with the studios releasing blockbusters earlier and earlier. They could very well decide "Well, they make money in May, why can't we just release Wonder Woman in Feb or Jan inbetween Christmas and summer." This would thus make the two big movie going seasons just one HUGE season that drops off in Sep and Oct to give horror movies a shot.
JillyMcBeam
JillyMcBeam - 8/6/2014, 4:22 PM
Pedrito
Pedrito - 8/6/2014, 4:26 PM
WB/DC just wants to have the biggest March opener ever.
And also catch all the people who are still drunk from St Paddy's day.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 8/6/2014, 4:31 PM
You know why WB didn't care about getting a "prime" release date? Because ANY release date for this movie is a prime release date.

This is the biggest superhero film to ever hit the screens.

I understand people loved Avengers, and rightfully so. But the Avengers don't have the same fame as Batman and Superman. The general audience are going to eat this movie up. It doesn't matter what date its released on.
GiantNerd
GiantNerd - 8/6/2014, 4:45 PM
I think Cap 3 might have another big player in it. I just have a feeling.
TheOverlord
TheOverlord - 8/6/2014, 5:24 PM
March 25, 2016 is Good Friday, so WB is getting a holiday weekend boost too. And March and April will be dead, so they'll retain the #1 spot for a while -- maybe until Cap 3 comes out. It's a really smart move.
staypuffed
staypuffed - 8/6/2014, 5:34 PM
I don't understand people who think Marvel "won" this.
Batman v Superman is coming out earlier than we thought. That's the real win.
MrBlackJack
MrBlackJack - 8/6/2014, 5:35 PM
I think it was just WB trying to some fictitious point. A publicity stunt if you will. A stroking of the fire.
Mike89
Mike89 - 8/6/2014, 5:42 PM
Good. No need to risk the movies box ofice.
Klone
Klone - 8/6/2014, 6:26 PM
They realized their bully tactics utterly failed.
superherofan21
superherofan21 - 8/6/2014, 6:54 PM
I'm glad we get to have Batman v Superman on that date. Finally, an awesome movie will come out on my birthday! Really excited for this.
sikwon
sikwon - 8/6/2014, 7:23 PM
I said it before (no one listened to me) and I'll say it again (people still won't listen).... Ben saved this movie and saved this franchise. He was brought on as Batman and he brought his TEAM with him. This isn't little kid Ben. He's a multiple Academy award winner and his last few movies are proof that he and his writing/production team are among the best in the business. Early in his career he was getting by on charisma and roles that fit him (Dazed and Confused, Armagedon for example) and later he tried to make movies he wasn't quite ready for (Sum of all Fears, that dumbass future movie ware he was the computer genius or whatever, roles that didn't fit him). Even in Daredevil, Ben was GOOD in that and it was almost a very good movie, almost. Now that he's matured, seasoned, I think that's going to reflect very well as Bruce and I have NO DOUBT he can pull off Bats. Ben and his team are without question the best thing that has ever happened to WB. Even more so then Nolan. Nolan's vision didn't allow for the fantastic.
supermanlives
supermanlives - 8/6/2014, 7:31 PM
Did anybody actually think Batman v. Superman would debut the SAME DAY as Captain America 3?
AnthonyLantern
AnthonyLantern - 8/6/2014, 7:34 PM
This movie will make a ton of money no matter when it comes out. Same goes for Cap 3
PAF
PAF - 8/6/2014, 7:38 PM
Ben saved this? LMFAO. NO. WB started thinking correctly with their new guy and SAVED this.
PAF
PAF - 8/6/2014, 7:43 PM
Kevin Tsujihara is his name.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 8/6/2014, 7:55 PM
Having Affleck and his team involved can only be beneficial to the project in my opinion.
ShellHead
ShellHead - 8/6/2014, 8:02 PM
But What if it doesn't?

I mean, DC people seem to be unwilling to accept the possibility that this movie will make less than 1 Billion. It could happen. What then? What happens when "the biggest moving picture ever put to celluloid in the history of human kind" makes less than the Avengers? Or Iron Man 3? Or Cap 2? Or Guardians?

What will you say then?
FordEl
FordEl - 8/6/2014, 8:05 PM
@Klone

Not really that. They wanted that weekend and they wanted to see if they'll move and they didn't. So instead they put in March to maximize their profits and put it on the same weekend as Alice in Wonderland and that earned lots of money.
TheGuillotine
TheGuillotine - 8/6/2014, 8:10 PM
I think the only way BvsS doesn't make a billion is if it is THAT bad.
Pheezmatic
Pheezmatic - 8/6/2014, 8:12 PM
wow...some people really take this shit personal...lol
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 8/6/2014, 8:21 PM
I think it's good for WB's DC. I mean they basically moved there release date to an earlier release which benefit's me.

I think it's mind boggling as to how many people want this film to fail in which i see it as a very small chance of that happening. I'm happy that BvS has hired a new screen writer for the film, that screen writer has won an Oscar for the film Argo so the film could be a change of pace than Man of Steel.

BvS will make money but does it have to make a billion to be a success? Cap:TWS did not make a billion, would you say that film was not a success, Days of Future Past did not make a billion, would you also say that film was not a success?

I am looking forward to BvS because it's the film i've been waiting for ever since i was teenager. I'm also looking forward to Cap 3. Both films of that year will be a success.

Apophis2013
Apophis2013 - 8/6/2014, 8:25 PM
Guess they saw Guardians of the Galaxy make 184 million worldwide and shit there pants. What were they thinking of competing with Marvel in the first place? Look at WB Superhero movie track record. Its terrible. Then by changing the date is even worse. If I was Marvel I would take Captain America 3 and release it March 25, 2016 just to mess with them.
OptionFour
OptionFour - 8/7/2014, 12:48 AM
Well-written article. And correct, so far as I can see.

Though I did have to laugh at the reaction from Marvel fans in general over these past few weeks.

When it was said that DC 'won' SDCC? "That's stupid and arbitrary, there are no winners for things like that!"

When BvS moved dates, resulting in a net gain for both companies? "WOO! MARVEL WINS!"

Gotta love it.
TheAstoundingMan
TheAstoundingMan - 8/7/2014, 2:17 AM
@metropolisman

Oh mighty wise man of seemingly infinite knowledge and exquisite taste, what makes a movie great? Please tell us! We are all wasting our lives fantasizing about Chris Evans' pecks, and big explosions! What must we do to be more like you?
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