CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Director Shares Red Hulk's Alternate Fate And Teases The MCU's Vice President

CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD Director Shares Red Hulk's Alternate Fate And Teases The MCU's Vice President

Captain America: Brave New World director Julius Onah has shared details on alternate plans for Red Hulk's fate in the latest MCU movie and talks more about Betty Ross' role and why we didn't meet the VP.

By JoshWilding - Feb 21, 2025 07:02 PM EST
Source: Variety

In the closing moments of Captain America: Brave New World, Red Hulk reverts to his human form as President Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross and is later imprisoned in The Raft. However, having taken account for his past actions, Ross is finally reunited with his estranged daughter, Betty. 

A recent leak claimed that the movie originally ended with the world believing the President had died. However, a post-credits scene was set to reveal that Red Hulk was still out there and watching over Betty. 

Talking to Variety, Captain America: Brave New World director Julius Onah was asked outright if Ross ever died in an earlier version of the movie.

"There was never a version where he explicitly died, but there were certainly versions of it where maybe the public didn’t know what his fate was after what happens towards the end of the film," he confirmed. "But I think you’re introducing such a massive fan favorite character, and, as we all know, it’s not very easy for a Hulk to perish."

Pushed on whether Marvel Studios ever considered revealing the Vice President's identity - after all, they're the MCU's Commander in Chief now - Onah played coy. 

"Those conversations happen from time to time. But when you’re telling a story like this, you don’t want to throw 900 characters at the audience. Ultimately, we decided, let’s not delve into that. It wasn’t too pertinent to how this story was being told from an emotional, thematic standpoint."

As for whether their identity was ever officially decided, the filmmaker laughed and said, "Let’s see where that’s going to go as we as we advance in this crazy universe of the MCU."

Red Hulk's fate wasn't the only thing that changed as Onah also revealed that Liv Tyler's Betty Ross showed up "earlier in the movie" at points. However, he pointed out, "It was very, very important to me that she arrived at the end of the film, because you have to think about what Ross is being deprived of."

"He is so desperate to reconnect with his daughter, so keeping her out of the story, having her be a presence hovering around the edges of the film, would make that sense of longing that Ross was having feel more potent," the director concluded.

Unfortunately, Onah wasn't asked about the funeral scene Tyler and Anthony Mackie were spotted shooting, though we can piece together enough to figure out that it was likely meant to be Ross' send-off in an earlier version of the story. 

With Ross contained within The Raft, there's always a chance he can be broken out and fight alongside - or even against - The Avengers. Rumour has it Harrison Ford has already signed up to return and only time will tell whether that's for Doomsday or the long-rumoured World War Hulk.

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Batmangina
Batmangina - 2/21/2025, 7:34 PM
SECOND
tylerzero
tylerzero - 2/21/2025, 8:18 PM
@Batmangina -

Don't be so modest.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/21/2025, 7:38 PM
Spoiler alert




Thaddeus' former vice president isn't a straight White man.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 2/22/2025, 6:25 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - User Comment Image
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kg8817
kg8817 - 2/22/2025, 9:22 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - Yep, it’s Val.

She was CIA director in Wakanda Forever. She’ll be revealed to be the President in Thunderbolts. That’s why she’s in Avengers tower, because Ross destroyed the White House.

And that’s why Bucky says they can’t call themselves the Thunderbolts, because of the negative Ross perception now after his deeds.
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 2/24/2025, 6:07 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - they had the opportunity to make it Bucky.. him showing up in the hospital and all...
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/21/2025, 7:44 PM
Interesting…

I guess that rumored alternate ending was true which means that these set pics we got would have been Ross’s fake funeral I assume.

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I’m glad they went with the ending we got since it shows Ross taking accountability for his action thus proving he can and is indeed trying to change.

Also I’m happy that they didn’t bring in Betty earlier because it’s Ross main emotional objective in the film is to reconnect with his daughter so you want to pay that off at the end which imo was done well.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/21/2025, 7:44 PM
"As for whether their identity was ever officially decided, the filmmaker laughed and said, "Let’s see where that’s going to go as we as we advance in this crazy universe of the MCU.""

I'm always confused when there are typos in quotes on this site.

Are Josh and Mark copying and pasting typos, or are Josh and Mark making typos when quoting people?
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/21/2025, 8:17 PM
@MakeAmericaGrea -

So it was a typo by Variety's writer(s).

They made other typos. They left out at least a couple words.
kg8817
kg8817 - 2/22/2025, 9:21 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea - It’s a comment setting up the fact that Val was his vice president, and she’ll be revealed to be the President in Thunderbolts. That’s why she’s in Avengers tower, because Ross destroyed the White House.

And that’s why Bucky says they can’t call themselves the Thunderbolts, because of the negative Ross perception now after his deeds.
Gambito
Gambito - 2/21/2025, 7:46 PM
Okay was Liv Tyler even on set for this one? She looked cgi’d into the scene
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/21/2025, 8:19 PM
@Gambito -

There's a good chance she was on set. But it's hard to prove.
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 2/21/2025, 9:50 PM
@Gambito - She wasn't on set.
Gambito
Gambito - 2/21/2025, 7:47 PM
You jut know the VP was Glenn Talbot setting up World War Hulk movie the USA declares war on Bruce Banner let it rain billions again Marvel
AwesomePromoz
AwesomePromoz - 2/21/2025, 7:56 PM
@Gambito - Bring back Adrian Pasdar, and I am all aboard for that theory!
HeraldNumber7
HeraldNumber7 - 2/21/2025, 7:56 PM
@Gambito -

dope theory!
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 2/21/2025, 8:20 PM
He died from guilt because he couldn't do better.
Repian
Repian - 2/21/2025, 8:23 PM
It's time for the government to allocate a larger budget to the Department of Defense for a secret project.
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More and more people are speaking out against super weapons, such as Hulk, Wanda and many others. Even a monster has arrived at the White House.
AnEye
AnEye - 2/21/2025, 9:45 PM
@Repian - Yup, it’s leading to the Sentinels.
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 2/21/2025, 8:51 PM
Onah is so wrong about keeping Betty out of the movie that it's disqualifying. A writer must think about what a decision gives them & what it takes away. Keeping Betty out of the film kept out a prospect for a very powerful story, in return for her showing up at the end, too late to effect anything. It was just a useless cameo.

Maybe the true motive was to not let Ford overshadow weak Anthony Mackie more than he already was.

A very dumb decision in a movie full of dumb decisions.
JstaKIDfrmBKLYN
JstaKIDfrmBKLYN - 2/21/2025, 9:11 PM
@PartyKiller - Thank you. Couldn't have said it better myself.
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 2/22/2025, 12:10 AM
@PartyKiller - In his defense, hes a terrible Director and had the writers from the FAWS sooooo....
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 2/21/2025, 8:52 PM
Imagine if the Vice President was Norman Osborne.

BOOM!
Oberlin4Prez
Oberlin4Prez - 2/21/2025, 8:59 PM
Given how inept Ross was in foreign diplomacy my guess his vp looked a little something like a drunken wine aunt we all know and love.

EskimoJ
EskimoJ - 2/21/2025, 9:04 PM
Bucky's gonna' become President.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 2/21/2025, 9:41 PM
@EskimoJ - I kinda want that now

If Steve ain’t gonna be then why not Bucky?.
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 2/21/2025, 9:53 PM
Julius Onah doesn't know how to direct in addition to having no Club about the MCU or Marvel universe.

When is Disney going to utilize real directors again?
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 2/21/2025, 10:14 PM
@JoshWilding

Captain America 4 is already failing with a 2nd friday of $7.5 million and mid to high 20 million 2nd weekend.

https://deadline.com/2025/02/box-office-the-monkey-captain-america-1236297207/
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 2/22/2025, 12:11 AM
@MarvelZombie616 - Anyone but the truest of believers would have seen this coming. Now they will turn to bitching and blaming people.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 2/22/2025, 1:10 AM

It’s identity politics bingo!

No telling who or what will turn out to be the vice president.

MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/22/2025, 3:19 AM
@DocSpock -

Will the movie be written by lefties?

If so, will Ross' former vice president and current president be a straight White man?

If so, he will be written as a bad person who Sam/Falcon would like to tell to do better.

Will they not be a straight White man?

Then they will be written to be a good person.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 2/22/2025, 4:46 AM
@MakeAmericaGrea -

Exactly.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 2/22/2025, 2:59 AM
I’m not saying Ford isn’t going to live til he’s 90, but it’s a bit of a gamble to cast him in a multi picture role at his age.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 2/22/2025, 3:14 AM
Craptain UnAmerican is making a lot less money than Quantumania did during the same amount of days playing in theaters.

Did Quantumania ever make a profit?

Anyone?

Anyone?

Also, remember that Disney said The Marvels' budget was one number, and months later Disney admitted the budget was actually a higher number. And Disney has done this with multiple movies.
deamon
deamon - 2/22/2025, 6:51 AM
Now he should join Thunderbolts.
vtopa
vtopa - 2/22/2025, 7:39 AM
Saw it yesterday. Overall enjoyable. They could use better fight coordinators (e.g. whoever the Russo brothers had on CAWS and CACW). Story was clunky here and there but I liked Danny Ramirez as the new Falcon and the flying scenes were great, as was Red Hulk.
99OPTIMISTPRIME
99OPTIMISTPRIME - 2/22/2025, 11:08 AM
Damn, I would've swung big with his VP too.🤣 Nick Fury, Rhodey. Maria Hill would've been perfect, had she not been killed off.

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