AMAZING SPIDER-MAN Just Revealed How Easily Peter Parker Could Beat Captain America In A Fight

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN Just Revealed How Easily Peter Parker Could Beat Captain America In A Fight

Amazing Spider-Man #23 sees a desperate Peter Parker return to the Marvel Universe, but when the wall-crawler crosses paths with Steve Rogers, it doesn't end well for Captain America! Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Apr 05, 2023 09:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics

Amazing Spider-Man is currently telling the story of what happened during the period which saw pretty much the entire Marvel Universe turn its back on Peter Parker. 

After being sent back to his own reality by Mary Jane Watson, Spidey realises that time moves differently there meaning he has no time to waste. What felt like a week to him was only a day on Earth-616, and that means MJ could potentially be stranded trying to fend off the evil Emissary for months, if not years. 

The panicked Spidey escapes from the Fantastic Four after they question what led to that explosion in Pennsylvania (it was the explosive death of Mayen God Wayep), but after ditching his costume due to the Feds being after him, the wall-crawler finds himself face-to-face with Captain America. 

We've seen these two clash before, but with the clock ticking, Spider-Man uses his powers to take Cap's shield and smash him into a wall with it! 

He's gone before the fight can continue, but this seems like a pretty solid indication that any battle between them would ultimately see Steve Rogers bested by Peter. In the end, Spidey is left with no other choice than to seek out Norman Osborn's help, thereby explaining what led to them becoming so close. 

Marvel Comics has also released a first look at Amazing Spider-Man #25 (you can find it by following the link in the Tweets below), confirming that MJ does indeed spend a lot of time trapped in that alternate reality.

She's stuck there with Paul, likely meaning romance will blossom between them. That would explain how they have children together and why Peter and MJ are no longer together. Marvel Comics is determined to keep those two apart and, now there are kids in the mix, the chances of their marriage ever returning are likely somewhere between slim and none. 

Do you think Spider-Man could beat Captain America? 

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Fogs
Fogs - 4/5/2023, 9:23 AM
As Stan Lee would say, "the winner is whoever the writer wants."

Btw:
"sent back to his own reality by Mary Jane Watson" - What a mess.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/5/2023, 11:41 AM
@Fogs - I always hate when people say this when talking about who would win in fights. No kidding it comes down to the writer.

But when nerds like us speculate these things it's supposed to be based on what the characters can do. Like, on paper, who would win?

I always look at it in as fair a setting as possible. Neutral setting, what are each characters powers? They have their normal gear they would always be carrying with them. No one interfering. No prep time. And if they are from other universes, (DC character vs Marvel character) then they wouldn't instantly know each others' weaknesses.

For example, Silver Surfer couldnt just hit Superman with a Kryptonite ray in the first 5 seconds of their fight because he wouldn't know what Kryptonite is or that it weakens Superman.

People get crazy with these things lol.
Fogs
Fogs - 4/5/2023, 2:45 PM
@CorndogBurglar - I see what you're saying but it's innaplicable so to me it doesn't really have much use to just theorize, lol.
DR3D
DR3D - 4/5/2023, 3:18 PM
@CorndogBurglar - I don’t image anymore, nowadays I just chatgpt it.

A battle between Superman and Silver Surfer would be an epic confrontation between two of the most powerful beings in the comic book universe. Here are some factors that could determine the outcome of such a battle:

Superman possesses incredible strength, speed, flight, heat vision, freeze breath, and other abilities that make him one of the most powerful heroes in the DC Comics universe. He is also known for his exceptional durability and invulnerability. Silver Surfer, on the other hand, is a cosmic entity in the Marvel Comics universe with a wide range of powers, including energy projection, matter manipulation, and the ability to absorb and manipulate cosmic energy.

One key factor in this battle could be the use of energy projection. Silver Surfer's ability to manipulate cosmic energy gives him a powerful advantage, as he can use it to attack Superman from a distance. However, Superman's heat vision and other energy projection abilities could also be effective against Silver Surfer.

Another factor to consider is the level of durability and invulnerability of each character. Both Superman and Silver Surfer are incredibly durable, but Superman's Kryptonian physiology and his connection to the sun could give him an edge in this area.

Ultimately, the outcome of a battle between Superman and Silver Surfer would depend on the specific circumstances and the strategies they employ. It's possible that either of them could emerge as the victor, but it would be a tough and intense battle between two immensely powerful entities from different universes.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/5/2023, 7:34 PM
@DR3D - This is it exactly, except it doesn't give a winner.

I would totally pick Silver Surfer. Because matter manipulation is a power that can't be overlooked or taken lightly. SS has used this to win a lot of fights, and he's even used it to bulk up his own body to go toe to toe in fist fights with incredibly powerful enemies.

Surfer's powers are just a little too much for Supes.
ScRipt69
ScRipt69 - 4/6/2023, 5:04 AM
@CorndogBurglar - if the same two fighters fight ten times in a row, the results could vary or even out. If SS windls today there is no reason why Supes wouldnt win tomorrow.
ScRipt69
ScRipt69 - 4/6/2023, 5:05 AM
@ScRipt69 - *wins
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/6/2023, 7:14 AM
@ScRipt69 - Thats true. I'd still take Surfer the majority if the time.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 4/6/2023, 12:29 PM
@CorndogBurglar - think the issue is comics are inconsistent with power levels. That and there too many different versions
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/6/2023, 3:21 PM
@Taonrey - I always take main continuity, quintessential versions into account. Unless otherwise stated. Like of someone says Superman vs Surfer, I'm not going to throw Superman Red or Blue into the argument. I'm going with normal Superman that everyone knows.

And power levels can make it tough. For example, Wolverine is nearly unkillable now, but in the 80's and 90's he was certainly wasn't. His healing factor used to only do so much and when he got taken out he was down for a while. Now the mother [frick]er gets blown up and only his skeleton is left but he's back up and ready to fight in minutes.

Same with Superman. He's been at different power levels depending on what reboot Era we're talking about.

So I can understand that.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 4/6/2023, 4:31 PM
@CorndogBurglar - yeah even the main universe has a constant change of Power levels. Thats why i understand the "the winner is whoever the writers chooses" argument, popularity also sometimes gives a character an edge.
Idc how smart batman is, idc how much prep time he has, he shouldn't have any chance against his JL teammates, definitely the ones with enhanced speed.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/6/2023, 5:30 PM
@Taonrey - Exactly. The whole Batman with prep time argument is so lame. It can help add to him winning, but I still highly doubt Batman could beat Superman one on one with all the prep time in the world.

Even in out of continuity comics where Batman has won that fight it was with help.
kallel
kallel - 4/6/2023, 7:49 PM
@CorndogBurglar - well thor beat surfer a few times. and superman beat thor fairly easily. superman could reach surfer and punch him into atoms before surfer could register. superman is just insanely over powerful
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 4/5/2023, 9:25 AM
What a great sequence by the prolific John Romita Jr. Very cool.
GeneralZod
GeneralZod - 4/5/2023, 11:04 AM
@Shivermetimbers - JRJR may not be the greatest technical CB artist, but his story-telling ability is outstanding -- these sequences show that. I had an OA page of his from ASM (1982) and I sold it for a few hundred bucks. :(
Shivermetimbers
Shivermetimbers - 4/5/2023, 12:55 PM
@GeneralZod - Totally agree. He has a unique style and it has barely changed over a couple of decades. I always liked it though.
marvel72
marvel72 - 4/5/2023, 4:32 PM
@GeneralZod - I loved his artwork on The X-Men and Daredevil back in the 80s.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/5/2023, 9:29 AM
Romita in his bag.

Not shocking. Peter would be A PROBLEM if he used his full strength and was always angry.
Arthorious
Arthorious - 4/5/2023, 10:11 AM
@GhostDog - I saw a few panels where he completely humbled kingpin with zero effort. And here I'm thinking, why not do this in the first place man?
KWilly
KWilly - 4/5/2023, 10:14 AM
@GhostDog - Spider-Man would be the deadliest street level character if he was a villain. Bar none.
GhostDog
GhostDog - 4/5/2023, 10:16 AM
@Arthorious - I know the exact panel you're talking about. What he does to Fisk's nose. Picks him up by his skin. NASTY WORK. Panels I can always picture in my head with ease
OptimusCrime
OptimusCrime - 4/5/2023, 11:55 AM
@Arthorious - amazing spider-man: back in black

Loved this series
Arthorious
Arthorious - 4/5/2023, 12:43 PM
@OptimusCrime - thank you gonna check it out
Taonrey
Taonrey - 4/6/2023, 12:31 PM
@Arthorious - yeah it’s kinda annoying to think Peter is holding back all the time, while folks are killing civilians
kallel
kallel - 4/6/2023, 7:53 PM
@Arthorious - cause there wouldn't be a story💰 lol
Origame
Origame - 4/5/2023, 9:37 AM
I mean...yeah? This is really showing the difference between fans of the comics and the movies.

The movies have made this an actual fight (mostly by giving cap legit superpowers as opposed to the comics where he's on batman level of physicality). But comics fans knew this was a no contest.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/5/2023, 11:43 AM
@Origame - Cap isn't even putting up a fight in these panels, so I dont know why the article is written as if this is proof Spider-Man can easily beat Cap.

Having said that, Spider-Man would beat Cap 9 times out of 10. I'm not sure it would be so one sided. But Spidey's powers kind of put him in a different league. Cap's experience can only make up for so much of that.

Spider-Man is arguably the most powerful street level character. There aren't many people on that level that would be able to take him. He's stronger, faster, can stick to walls, has a built in threat detector, and webbing that he can use in a million different ways, including binding his opponent.

I would take him in a fight against almost any street level character.
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 4/5/2023, 12:01 PM
@CorndogBurglar - He’s not nearly as versatile, but I’ve always felt Luke Cage might be able to take him with just sheer overpowering.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/5/2023, 12:17 PM
@OmegaBlack13 - He's a tricky one because he's so durable. He would undoubtedly take some heavy hits from Spidey, and his strength puts him on a closer level with Spidey than Cap.

I would say Cage has a better chance than Cap, for sure. Would he beat him every time? Nah I don't think so.
SethBullock
SethBullock - 4/5/2023, 8:54 PM
@Origame - I have not read the comics in a long while, but always thought Cap was way stronger than Batman.

Though not as strong as Spidey.
Origame
Origame - 4/5/2023, 9:18 PM
@SethBullock - the way the comics approach the super soldier serum is that it doesn't give you super strength but peak human physiology. The idea around this is, while they're ridiculously strong and fast, it's supposed to be achievable. And batman managed to achieve this level through his training.

Now it is stated that cap is the stronger of the two, as batman did fight cap in the comics and did state this. However, they are on the same general level.

This is different than with Spiderman, who has actual super strength that humans simply aren't capable of reaching through physical training.
SethBullock
SethBullock - 4/7/2023, 4:44 AM
@Origame - I just remember a comic from the 90s where The Avengers were fixing their headquarters after a fight with some enemies, maybe it was the fight where Cap lifted Mjolnir and he was not Cap America but just The Captain or something like that, two workers were moving with a lot of effort something that was apparently really heavy, then Cap came along and lifted the same thing with just one arm/hand, one of the workers was surprised by how strong he was and the other said something like "those big muscles are there for a reason" or something like that, I read it like 30 years ago, not sure if I'm remembering all the details correctly, but I got the idea that he was really strong, peak human physiology like you said, not as strong as Spider-Man, but I always thought that he was way stronger than people like Batman or Daredevil because the super soldier serum was some kind of ultimate steroids that made him faster and stronger than "normal" humans, even stronger than those who use steroids because the serum was like the best steroids ever created.
Origame
Origame - 4/7/2023, 7:45 AM
@SethBullock - thats pretty close to it, yeah. Basically he's at the point where he can enter the Olympics for physical feats and walk away with gold. So whatever the record for lifting is is how much he can lift. Him being able to do that makes sense since he can bench press over a thousand pounds. But it's still nothing compared to Spiderman who can lift a train.
mountainman
mountainman - 4/5/2023, 9:50 AM
Peter has always been stronger than Cap but I would assume the winner of a fight between them would be who wants it more. In this case, it seems like Peter does. Cap wasn’t really putting up much of a fight there.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 4/5/2023, 10:07 AM
@mountainman - cap if full tilt fighting would be peter because he is by far leaps and bounds the more seasoned fighter. he is a war veteran and knows all sorts of nasty ways he holds back on to kill people. peter is not a trained soldier like cap. cap beats up on people stronger than him on a regular basis.
mountainman
mountainman - 4/5/2023, 10:32 AM
@supermanrex - Agreed. It’s all about how much he was trying. In this scene it didn’t look like he was. Even though Peter is stronger and has his powers, Cap is still the better fighter and is more experienced.
mountainman
mountainman - 4/5/2023, 10:32 AM
@supermanrex - I love this article simply for the fact that when I was a kid debating which superhero would win in a fight was always so fun.
OmegaBlack13
OmegaBlack13 - 4/5/2023, 12:04 PM
@supermanrex - People always treat Cap as this super experienced fighter, but honestly he was only in war for what, three years? I get that he did a lot of fighting in that time but it must’ve been by far mostly against what would be considered random goons. Aside from those war years, Peter has been in the game just as long, maybe even a few months or a year longer.
supermanrex
supermanrex - 4/5/2023, 3:14 PM
@OmegaBlack13 - peter doesnt go against cosmic level threats on the regular like cap. he only recently started working with the avengers. cap has fought intergalactic wars. spidey is more street level. spidey will win when cap is holding back. when cap is not he will batman his ass like batman does to superman. whatever it takes to win.
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