COMICS: Rick Remender Explains The Death At The Conclusion Of "The Dark Angel Saga"

COMICS: Rick Remender Explains The Death At The Conclusion Of "The Dark Angel Saga"

One of the X-Men met their maker at the end of "The Dark Angel Saga" in Uncanny X-Force, and while it wasn't given much in the way of media coverage, writer Rick Remender has gone on record to explain that they really are DEAD.

By JoshWilding - Dec 19, 2011 04:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics
Source: Newsarama

At the conclusion of "The Dark Angel Saga", Psylocke was forced to kill original X-Man, Warren Worthington III. Originally known as Angel, his Archangel persona (implanted by Apocalypse) finally took over resulting in the death of thousands as he attempted to remake all life on Earth. He first appeared in 1963's X-Men #1, and while the press didn't pick up on this major death, the Angel we all know is indeed dead according to writer Rick Remender. "He's dead. Warren is dead," he told Newsarama.

"I know where he's ending up, I know what we're doing with him for the next year. Our intention right now is that Warren died. His soul died, his mind died, he died. But that Life Seed stuck in his gut regenerated something. It took the husk that was there, of Archangel, and it regenerated something else. It took that dead body and made this new body. What is the body, and who's the person inside? It's not Warren Worthington. It's not as simple as amnesia. That's a different person.

He added: "There's going to be cynics. For us, it was important not to just do, "And he died." We wanted to do something that was more of a knife in the gut, where he dies, and Betsy gets to live with him in this telepathic trance, where they get their lives together how it should have been. You think you've got some kind of closure, then you get the up moment of Warren returns — everybody is happy and excited — and he pushes Betsy aside and says, "Who are you?" Warren did die, but here's this person who looks just like him. It's even worse than him dying, in my opinion."

How do you feel about this new take on the "death" of a major character? Of course, he won't necessarily be gone FOREVER as Marvel can always give him back his memories! However, until then, Warren/Angel/Archangel is dead.






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REDSTORM
REDSTORM - 12/19/2011, 4:49 PM
I wish we'd slow down with all the dang comic book deaths already. It's a gimmick that's seriously getting old.
Oarsis
Oarsis - 12/19/2011, 4:50 PM
Psylocke....why must you be so amazingly wonderful???

I don't know what to feel about this right now....
I love Archangel, he is my favorite male X-men character.
So, I am sad he is gone...of course, he will be back!

Psylocke is my favorite all time comic book character :)
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 12/19/2011, 4:58 PM
Right right..Warren died BUT he will still be walking around..only that's not REALLY Warren at all! ..an ancient Joss Whedon trick for keeping a character around a bit longer. If they wanted to kill him, they should have buried him and left it at that.
Jordanstine
Jordanstine - 12/19/2011, 5:02 PM
Comic Book Deaths are so DEAD.

Give us something new besides killing characters off.

Audiences no longer buy it anymore.
evyllsummer
evyllsummer - 12/19/2011, 5:04 PM
Ah, an Illyria reference...nice.
longbowhunter
longbowhunter - 12/19/2011, 5:12 PM
I thought I was very tastefully done. Everyone is so jaded when it comes to comic book death. Nice twist ending.
SpiderBat209
SpiderBat209 - 12/19/2011, 5:13 PM
@Ror---Yup, reminds me of the "Hole in the World" Angel episode where Fred died and Illyria took over her body.

It IS actually worse than Death. Seeing someone you once loved walking around but has no memory of you or what you once had. Like a totally different person inhabiting the body of a person you shared a history with. Just ask any divorced person! lol ;)
DeadGuyWalking
DeadGuyWalking - 12/19/2011, 5:16 PM
This wasn't one of those times where they were using someone's death as a gimmick. It was one of the best story lines that I have read in a long time. I'm not sure how I feel about a new person being born from the death of a pretty major character but the overall story arch was amazing.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 12/19/2011, 5:18 PM
Can't argue with that, I haven't read the last couple of issues but it was a great arc no doubt.
luckylu
luckylu - 12/19/2011, 5:30 PM
not buying it. comic books deaths dont mean shit anymore. wait a year. he will be back with all his memories and everything.
marvel72
marvel72 - 12/19/2011, 5:47 PM
i didn't know this had happened,oh well the uncanny x-force is the definetly the best marvel comic at the moment.

what i've read of the dark angel saga was f*cking awesome,haven't got long to wait until the graphic novel comes out 29.2.12.
HeyVanity
HeyVanity - 12/19/2011, 6:38 PM
I don't even care. Uncanny X-Force has been absolutely fantastic from the start. Definitely my favorite book at the moment. Seeing as how I just finished this one last night though, maybe I'll start the new Daredevil, since you all seem to like it so much.
AGENTJAY1130
AGENTJAY1130 - 12/19/2011, 7:08 PM
killing off characters is boring!! Give use some juicy shit like um.........a manajatwa OR wolverine manifesting new powers ......GIVE US SOMETHING NEW!!! LOLOLOL
CrashTest
CrashTest - 12/19/2011, 7:18 PM
@ HeyVanity

I agree buddy! Uncanny X-force was very well done. And art was fantastic. It made me really like Fantomex!
headlopper
headlopper - 12/19/2011, 7:20 PM
I was confused because I just thought that the life seed killed Apocalypses' 'Horseman'(archangel) . I thought he was just alittle disoriented by the whole ordeal and so didn't recognize Betsy.

But having read the article, this seems much, much cooler .
He's a great writer- no doubt about it,so whatever he has in store for Warren should be pretty boss.

Best story arc I've read since 'Annihilation Conquest'.

Keep it going Rick! You're doing great!

AOA 'Night-crawler' FTW! Welcome to X-Force!
HeyVanity
HeyVanity - 12/19/2011, 7:59 PM
@CrashTest Yeah, Fantomex has owned this entire series so far. Had no idea who he was initially, but he's become a truly great character. Even more so in the last several issues with Wolverine incapacitated most of the time.
headlopper
headlopper - 12/19/2011, 8:18 PM
Fantomex has definitely come into his own .

I'm so proud of him!

Money quote from UXM: Fantomex- "Is that bloody sack what I think it is"?

Deathlok- "Wade.I collected all of him.I love him, and ALL of you!"

Priceless.
headlopper
headlopper - 12/19/2011, 8:19 PM
*UXF
DarthTesla
DarthTesla - 12/19/2011, 8:38 PM
Definitely an intense scene and one of the best arcs in Marvel in the past few years, IMO.

Plus the art on this title is just bananas.
GLprime2814
GLprime2814 - 12/19/2011, 10:19 PM
YAAAWN!!

Who wants to start a reverse death pool?
Insted of when a person dying you bet on when they come back.
13echo
13echo - 12/19/2011, 11:06 PM
Oh no they killed the angel why is marvel killing of my fav charcters ie the punisher captain america, even my beloved human torch.... WHY!!! WHY!!!!!!!......what......you say their back.........back from the dead...... duh
loki668
loki668 - 12/20/2011, 2:55 AM
We know he's coming back. We know it. Just find another way to generate interest beyond killing popular characters, because we know they're coming back. It becomes tired and cliche after a while, because they're coming back. Just stop. Please.
*gaaacccckkkkkk!!!*
I've died!

Oh, it's okay! I'm back!!
See! That's just annoying.

Lord Loki has spoken
ReverendHess
ReverendHess - 12/20/2011, 3:48 AM
This book is kind of like the way Bru handled Cap. You know they are coming back, but you really enjoy the ride they are taking you on. I agree with all of you this book is the best Marvel book right now...story and art.
MassExecutions
MassExecutions - 12/20/2011, 6:54 AM
Yeah, I think a lot of this "death in comics" criticism is misplaced in this instance. I haven't been totally keeping up with this arc, but I think this death was story driven, wasn't hyped for sales, and wasn't sold as a permanent game changing thing. Seems like this is the way these things SHOULD be handled in the genre.
MassExecutions
MassExecutions - 12/20/2011, 6:58 AM
Also, that first piece of art for the article is fantastic. They should sell that sucker as a poster.
superman7
superman7 - 12/20/2011, 8:13 AM
i dont know why anyone would have any type of feelings about this in any way... He'll be back in a year or two.
soaponapope
soaponapope - 12/20/2011, 9:52 AM
his death was great. the whole fake memories thing with psylocke giving him a good death was awesome and very well written. although my favorite death was deadpool (even though hes not really dead), 2nd best death was AoA iceman getting blown away by sunfire making the biggest flames ever.
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