James Gunn Appears To Confirm THE FLASH's [SPOILER] Won't Be THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD's Batman

James Gunn Appears To Confirm THE FLASH's [SPOILER] Won't Be THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD's Batman James Gunn Appears To Confirm THE FLASH's [SPOILER] Won't Be THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD's Batman

Despite it sounding like The Flash would set the stage for the new DCU to be introduced, DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn has now confirmed that actor won't play The Brave and the Bold's Caped Crusader...

By JoshWilding - Jun 20, 2023 07:06 AM EST
Filed Under: The Brave and the Bold

Original plans called for The Flash to end with Michael Keaton's Batman a permanent part of the DCEU. He'd have gone on to appear in Batgirl and Batman Beyond, likely meeting Ben Affleck's Caped Crusader in Crisis on Infinite Earths

Those ideas have all been scrapped since DC Studios was formed, with the plan now to introduce a new Batman in Andy Muschietti's The Brave and the Bold. That story will revolve around Bruce Wayne training his son, Damian, as Robin and adapts elements from Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely's Batman and Robin

Heading into The Flash, we'd been led to believe the movie would set the stage for the DCU but if that is indeed the case, then it currently means George Clooney is that world's Batman. 

In a recent social media post, James Gunn seemed to debunk that notion when he responded to a fan by saying Bruce hasn't been cast yet. 

Interestingly, the DC Studios co-CEO also liked a Tweet from a fan over the weekend that read, "The ending contradicts the fact that The Brave and the Bold will have a NEW actor playing Batman, so is it safe to say that the Flash did not end in the new DCU proper, but a different timeline altogether?"

So, there you have it, The Flash didn't introduce the DCU and that world will be set in a new timeline. The DCEU as we know it is clearly dead (until the Aquaman sequel arrives, at least), and with the Scarlet Speedster's movie considered a failure, Barry Allen will no doubt eventually be recast as well. 

It's a strange situation, but one which we hope to see become clearer in the weeks and months ahead. 

The Brave and the Bold doesn't currently have a release date.

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KWilly - 6/20/2023, 7:37 AM
Thought this was obvious. But glad it's confirmed anyway
McMurdo - 6/20/2023, 2:09 PM
@KWilly - nothing is obvious to Josh.
TheLight - 6/20/2023, 7:39 AM
OT, but I'm still mad that with casting like this, he was absolutely wasted in the CW!

Forthas - 6/20/2023, 7:45 AM
Yeah...No this film will join a long line of "announced" DC films that will never see the light of day.
pitbull76 - 6/20/2023, 8:20 AM
@Forthas - I can see how you would think that but with new people running DCU I mean they already have something Zack didn't a 10year plan map out.Im not saying it's going to work but I'm more confident in this new team then Zack he started great with Man of steel but jumped the shark and dove right into BatmanvSuperman then double downed and made Justice League.The one worried I do have is starting with Superman if that fails I think everything else people are definitely going to question.I do understand you're concern and respect your opinion though.
Forthas - 6/20/2023, 8:34 AM
@pitbull76 - Well the reason I think we won't see it is because the film would not be ready until 2026...It is already delayed because of the writers strike...I don't think they would be dumb enough to release it at the same time as The Batman 2 (although with this studio you never know) and with the string of box office bombs that WBDC has had I doubt there is going to be enough financing that is readily available. All of these things will delay the production and by then unless things dramatically turn around the studio will have been sold....and a new team will chart the course for DC.
pitbull76 - 6/20/2023, 8:43 AM
@Forthas - yea I mean you do make alot of valid points in you're argument that I can't go against.I guess only time will tell my man.
McMurdo - 6/20/2023, 2:09 PM
@Forthas - what a dumb take bro.
Forthas - 6/20/2023, 2:36 PM
@McMurdo - ...and what is "dumb" about it?
Saga - 6/20/2023, 7:47 AM
Well too Bad, would have loved to see Clooney redeemed. He's a good actor and if they ever do a straight Dark Knight returns film it has to be him or Bale
mountainman - 6/20/2023, 8:41 AM
@Saga - B&R is such an atrocious movie, but Clooney is a solid actor. How wild would it be to see him return in a darker take on the character (no suit nips please).
McMurdo - 6/20/2023, 2:10 PM
@Saga - he plays George Clooney in every movie he's ever been in.
FireandBlood - 6/20/2023, 7:54 AM
It’s like they’re trying to kill their last viable franchise.
Urubrodi - 6/20/2023, 8:14 AM
The Superman movie will be a break or make it for this franchise. If he fails to deliver on that one, the DCU might be doomed from the start.
GhostDog - 6/20/2023, 8:14 AM
Why they should’ve did a full reboot. This shit kinda messy. Maybe at SDCC Gunn will finally reveal how this all truly works.
PartyKiller - 6/20/2023, 8:15 AM
Even when the MCU was peaking, Gunn's GOTG movies couldn't hit a billion. The GOTG movies have their fans, just like Thor Ragnarok does, but all those movies are just self parodying movies that are like SNL sketches. None of them matter to people after the jokes get old. Gunn's Suicide Squad was absolute trash!

And the worst thing going for Gunn, WB wanted to hire him.

WB doesn't have the money to keep losing hundreds of millions on DC movies. Gunn's movies will not be hitting a billion. After Superman Legacy does the same money Snyderverse did, plans will change. Some movies will be scrapped, Gunn will try going to "sure things" like Snyder did. And when Gunn's Batman and JL underperform, WB will pull the plug. At that point, WB may finally stop chasing after MCU money and give up, because they will be worse off than they are now.

What will happen when Gunn's Batman can't match Matt Reeves Batman movie grosses? From what we've seen, Gunn will try everything he can to get WB to end Reeves movies, but he'll lie about it.
mountainman - 6/20/2023, 8:44 AM
@PartyKiller - You know who else didn’t hit a billion? Snyder.

The fact is the only DC movies that have hit a billion are Aquaman, Joker and 2/3 of the Nolan trilogy.

$500+ million isn’t a bad take if the budgets reduce a bit. We know next to nothing about the DCU yet, but it would be pretty easy for it to be more successful than the DCEU was.
Order66 - 6/20/2023, 8:16 AM
See I’ve been saying this. DCU is a full reboot. There is no crossover merged bs. Flash didn’t do shit. Aquaman 2 is the last DCEU film and I bet you blue beetle is DCEU.
pitbull76 - 6/20/2023, 8:27 AM
@Order66 - No I think it's already been confirmed that Blue Beetle will be part of DCU.I mean I could be wrong but I'm sure I seen that at a bunch of places.
pitbull76 - 6/20/2023, 8:46 AM
@Order66 - Oh I just noticed there is a article on here that said that but at this point I will take it with a grain of salt.
McMurdo - 6/20/2023, 2:11 PM
@Order66 - full reboot minus the Suicide Squad and Peacemaker
Order66 - 6/20/2023, 8:18 AM
It would really make everything so much better if they treat DCU as a full 100% reboot.
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