Holy Smokes! Benedict Cumberbatch Reveals A Major Change to the Finale of THE HOBBIT

One does not simply add the Necromancer in the Battle of Five Armies

having not read the hobbit i cant really complain much, but just like with super hero movies i do not like source material being changed

ok, first off, everyone CALM DOWN!!! its not like your a$$ is on fire so theres no need to drag it across the carpet, leaving brown streaks on everybody's good time. second off, you all know you'll be singing jackson's praises after the movie comes out, so check yourself at the door.
its highly unlikely there will be anymore middle earth movies after the hobbit, so its a good thing that all this stuff is being added. otherwise you'll never see it. this is just a really good excuse to get another badass action figure of sauron, SO STOW IT!

I don't know how much you can really interpret from the quotes. Who knows... If it were true, yes it is a change from the book. Is it something that is going to upset me? Who knows...adding the arrival of the Elven Army to the Battle of Helm's Deep didn't upset me. I actually thought it was a cool addition. This might be the same thing...if it is true.

A whole lot of nuthin' Now i'll just prop up my Hobbit feet and rel-a-x!

There is a problem with some years there right? I'm no expert on tolien's stuff but Saron was killed thousands of years before the Hobbit story happened right?

@GreendaleHumanBeing So essentially given the existing movie timeline it's not really even possible because that all makes sense. What if this movie leads right to that battle at the beginning of FOTR where Sauran loses the ring? Does that fit the timeline?

God some of the people here never read Silmalrillion otherwise they'd shut up!

Peter Jackson isn't changing anything, What's described is what takes place when Gandalf leaves the Dwarfs and Bilbo in The Hobbit to attend the White COuncil; Meetings and lead an army to defeat Sauron (aka The Necromancer) at Dol Guldur and drive him back to Mordor. This is Why Gandalf is not at the Battle of The Five Armies at the end of the book.

You people need to read more and stop guessing an hypothesizing about what you can't be bothered to research.

I actually hadnt read the exact quote by Sherlock but it sounds like he is very unfamiliar with the source material of the film he is in. He may be confusing himself. But yes the Necromancer is present as a spirit in Mirkwood but never appears at the Battle of Five Armies

@Ceejay agreed. I jumped to conclusions based on that final paragraph. You are right The Silmarillion is the ultimate masterpiece and a must read for many.

@GreendaleHumanBeing Ya my bad, I knew that too. Obviously thats where he lost the ring in the first place. Thanks.

@Ceejay Awesome, thanks for breakin it down.


I hadn't read the books, I saw the old cartoon when I was a kid but didn't realise the depth or the entire universe that was created here till I saw FOTR. Unreal the amount I still don't know. I was always a huge FF fan growin up and this just translates so well into that same kinda universe.

@maddmonk
There you go, digging up things that should be rightly left in peace
Better to sit under a hillock & smoke something..

@GreendaleHumanBeing & continuezero - He's not confusing himself, you are confused! He's talking about the White council battle led by Gandalf that takes place before the Battle of The Five Armies that drives The Necromancer (Sauron) out of Dol Guldor and Back to Morder, not the War of the Last Alliance which took place over a thousand years ago or the Battle of the Five Armies which takles place later.

For those who don't understand, this is a basic chronology of what happens during during the time of The Hobbit both just before and just after..

***JUST BEFORE THE HOBBIT***

2850 - Gandalf enters Dol Guldur and confirms that the evil thereby found is indeed Sauron returned; Thráin II, broken, raving, and dying, gives Gandalf his map and key to be passed on to his son, Thorin Oakenshield
2879 - Birth of Gimli
September 22, 2890 - Bilbo Baggins is born
2931 - Birth of Aragorn, son of Arathorn II and Gilraen (three years later Arathorn II is killed while hunting Orcs)

***DURING THE HOBBIT - SPOILERS FOR THOSE WHO AINT READ THE BOOK!***

March 15, 2941 - Thorin Oakenshield meets with Gandalf the Grey at the Prancing Pony in Bree, the Quest of Erebor begins
July, 2941 - Bilbo Baggins obtains the One Ring; the White Council drives Sauron out of Dol Guldur
October, 2941 - Esgaroth is attacked by the dragon Smaug, who is consequentially killed by Bard the Bowman; Thorin Oakenshield, Fíli, and Kíli killed at the Battle of Five Armies along with Bolg son of Azog; Dáin II Ironfoot becomes King of The Lonely Mountain; Town of Dale reestablished by Bard
June 22, 2942 - Bilbo Baggins returns to Bag End

Benedict Cumberbatch is playing the lead villain in the new Star Trek sequel too, or is that just a rumor? :[

Probably just part of the introduction scenes, Just like the beginning of Fellowship. With Jackson working on everything at once, it would be impossible to tell the actually chronology of events. For the actors anyway.