Why we're not seeing much from the Green Lantern movie ...and should that cause us to worry?

Why we're not seeing much from the Green Lantern movie ...and should that cause us to worry?

Getting tired of all the merchandise and wondering why were not seeing actual movie stuff? Here's my theory as to why.

Editorial Opinion
By superdog - Mar 01, 2011 09:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Green Lantern

I have been noticing an awful lot of Green Lantern hate in the comments lately as well as on twitter. It seems to stem from a combination of disappointment in the trailer, and the fact that we are not seeing continual images, interviews, posters, or new trailers (ala Thor and Cap). Now the haters and the skeptics will tell you that this is because the movie sucks and the studio knows it. They read comments from Blake Lively's agent (yes, people actually believe hollywood agents) and other forums, focus on some ill received one liners in the trailer, and are either becoming worried about the movie, or downright think the studio is hiding it because it is so bad.

Now most of this comes from people who are just super Marvel fans and don't like DC. These are the people I refer to as the haters. They will never be convinced that the movie will be better then their precious Marvel movies, no matter how good the next trailer looks. To be sure that these haters exist on both sides of the Marvel/DC isle, and there minds cannot be changed no matter what. Then there are people who look at all of this stuff and make a logical assumption that maybe its not as good as they'd hoped. These are the people I call skeptics. Their position, I believe, is also fueled by frustration with the lack of images posters etc....And I further believe that they are frustrated because we as comicbook fans have come to expect this type of marketing for a comicbook movie.

And herein lies what I believe is the central issue here. Warner Brothers is not marketing this movie as a comicbook movie, and not directing their efforts to comicbook fans. It is becoming clear that they are treating this as a regular old big budget sci-fi summer blockbuster. More, Avatar or Transformers, if you will, as opposed to Kick-Ass or Watchmen. That means heavy ad blitzing right before the movie comes out to placate the short attention spans of the summer movie going audience.

And when you think about it, that makes more sense with GL. This is a character, perhaps more than any other, that lends itself to mainstream promotion. It is a straight up space/alien adventure. As one reader constantly puts it "the star wars of comicbooks". (shout out to Lee777). It has aliens, spaceships, and special effects galore. That has much more of a broad appeal than say, a World War II movie, or a mythological movie about viking gods. You see, no matter how much you love Cap and Thor, they are a much harder sell to a broader audience. Which is why Marvel is putting so much effort into getting out the comicbook audience by releasing all their images, interviews, and trailers so early. They need to build up the hype so that the comic readers will be dying to see the movie, and might possibly, over several months, convince some of their non comicbook readers to go see it. This is not a put down, its actually very smart marketing. These are movies that appeal to a specific demographic with no big name stars in the leads, and will have a hard time appealing to a mainstream audience. Just look at The Incredible Hulk. A good movie, but did not perform all that well at the box-office because it mainly appeals to comicbook fans. Now I believe Cap and Thor suffer from this same problem, and are more like, and will perform at the box-office more like, TIH than say Iron Man. (Which is actually more like GL in tone and its appeal to general audiences.)

Now compare that to GL, who has a much broader appeal due to the source material (again space opera) and a lead actor who is red hot right now, well liked by the general audience, and specifically can draw in the ladies. Based on all of this, Warner Brothers has decided to market this movie like any other blockbuster. Which means heavy promotion in the month and weeks leading up to its release, not a slow build in order to generate buzz and excitement amongst it's rabid fan base.

Take a movie like Avatar, nobody even knew what the blue monkeys looked liked until basically the movie came out. No images, no teaser trailers, just a standard trailer about a month before the movie then heavy marketing blitz on t.v., talk shows etc....Like it or not, that is the route WB has chosen to take with GL. Its the same route they took with The Dark Knight and Superman Returns. (yes TDK had some weird viral campaigns but no real photos or trailers till right before release). They want mainstream Avatar money, not dedicated TIH/Watchmen/Kick-ass fan money.

Now I'm sure the haters will say that this just proves that Marvel cares more about the fans than DC. And that may be a fair point, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily good. After all this is a business, and the bottom line is box-office. And comicbook fans alone don't equal box-office (Kick-Ass, Watchmen, The Incredible Hulk). There will be no sequel to TIH because of its poor performance, which is disappointing to all of us. Warner Bros. knows this and wants GL as a franchise for years to come. As a result it has focused its marketing on profit (thats why you see all the merchandise photos) and will spend its movie advertising like all other studios, heavy last minute saturation to placate the short attention spans of the general public. That doesn't mean in anyway that the movie will be bad, just that they are playing it safe and attempting to get as much profit as possible so that we can enjoy GL movies for many years to come.



But then again who knows,...........maybe the movie sucks.


The battle will continue :)



This ones for Lee77

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Giourkas1
Giourkas1 - 3/1/2011, 9:29 AM
Damn... next time. Don't know what's up with the haters. GL looks good so far and besides, IN JOHNS WE TRUST!
ElBicho
ElBicho - 3/1/2011, 9:29 AM
It'll probably be a huge hit at the box office because of mainstream audiences, but for most comicbook fans of us it'll suck...
Xandera
Xandera - 3/1/2011, 9:32 AM
Nice Job Superdog!
I aint worried...
just anxious to see more than promo art...
CraptainAmerica
CraptainAmerica - 3/1/2011, 9:37 AM
I'm a HUGE GL fan. This movie is going to be great! I think we are forgetting the scale of this movie compared to some superhero outings. I have faith in Campbell and completely understand that he and WB don't want to put out unfinished forage again because of the premature backlash from a few CBM 'fans'
StuckInPanels
StuckInPanels - 3/1/2011, 9:38 AM
I agree with the almighty Galactus....DC/WB are more about pleasing the mainstream with all the cheap easy to go to marketing like toys, coloring books, lunch boxes, and a bunch of random things...remember another DC movie that focused on the toys and was a horrible bomb......BATMAN AND ROBIN!!!!....now it wont be that god awful but the sheer lack of a trailer, tv spot, or any kind of video footage is a sign of trouble
SuperSpiderMan5778
SuperSpiderMan5778 - 3/1/2011, 9:39 AM
the reason why we haven't seen much movie stuff is b/c the movie's release date is 5 months away opposed to the more closer to release cbm's that are barely releasing their full trailers. i mean we haven't seen the capt america full trailer yet so keep your panties on.
SeaSerpentine
SeaSerpentine - 3/1/2011, 9:40 AM
I gonna see it, no matter what I hear about it.
gtwizzy
gtwizzy - 3/1/2011, 9:42 AM
we'll have a second trailer look of the movie this month so we'll see but after batman begins and tdk i say WB dont have room for errors with this movie and they know what fans need in a blockbuster movie! so again i bet green lantern is gonna be better than all the cbm coming this summer!....but thor looks epic lol
LP4
LP4 - 3/1/2011, 9:42 AM
@ComicBookMovie aka (Galactus)- Agreed. "Superman Returns" anyone? =P

WB/DC doesn't give a flying shit about comicbook films or the fans. Disney/Marvel however DO care more and make better quality cbms.

Funny thing is- I'm a DC fanboy. But after the raping WB did to Superman back in 2006 I still can't get over that.
Reasonnnn
Reasonnnn - 3/1/2011, 9:43 AM
Someone's butthurt.
RoscoeFolgers
RoscoeFolgers - 3/1/2011, 9:43 AM
Great article.

But I'd like to add, most people with the constant Marvel bombardments are spoiled. It used to be you didn't even KNOW a movie existed until the trailer appeared in front of the movie they were seeing. I still remember being a little kid at the movie theater and seeing the posters for the South Park movie hanging from the ceiling less than a month before the release, I shit my pants.
fattieacid
fattieacid - 3/1/2011, 9:43 AM
JOHN STEWART ALL THE WAY. they keep making movies and shows about Hal, but im guessing more than half like John better. I was a marvel fan from age 1 through 18, im turning 21 and now and ive been a major DC fan. as much as i followed marvel, i say dc is better...Justice League Is Greater than Avengers!
RedeyeJedi
RedeyeJedi - 3/1/2011, 9:46 AM
Great article! As a fan of both MARVEL and DC, I hope they all do well. I'm even pumped for First Class considering the director.
spiderneil
spiderneil - 3/1/2011, 9:48 AM
some interesting points but it doesn't change the trailer being a disaster. several people who have seen the trailer in my office who aren't comic fans thought the trailer was AWFUL.

now the movie could be good, and I'm glad they are holding back images and information as it's been too long since I've come to a movie fresh with no idea of what is going to happen but let's not make out the green lantern trailer was anything other than awful.

the dialogue is awful ('I know, right?!')
the effects are awful (the constructs look disasterous)
what is the theme of the movie?
what is the motivation of the main character?


ThaMessenger07
ThaMessenger07 - 3/1/2011, 9:51 AM
Great Article Superdog!

While I do feel it was a little Hostile Towards Marvel Fans, I also feel that is an understandable emotion.

I feel the movies greatest Potential lies in Mr. Sexiest Man Alive Ryan Reynolds. While I also feel he is the reason that the film may be only decent. I feel he is a great actor and has the ability to perform serious but it seems as if they tweaked the script to fit his personality. This fact takes slightly away from Hal.

Right now he reminds me a lot of RDJ's Tony Stark and what I expect from Hal is Harrison Fords Han Solo.

To Me Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Story was if Han Solo had Become a Jedi instead of Luke. I don't get that feeling from this film.

Still I hope the best and look forward to seeing it opening day. I'm a Reynolds supporter and a Green lantern Fan. Also a Thor and Captain America Fan so I hope they receive greater success then TIH did.
lokisilvertongue
lokisilvertongue - 3/1/2011, 9:53 AM
i disagree with one thing i think a world war 2 film n a film bout mythology r jst as big as sci fi space movies, the only problem i have with gl is the trailer didnt reali impress me as much as it shud have, n i want them 2 get some proper advertising done so they make the money at the box office so we get more dc characters on the big screen
CapFan79
CapFan79 - 3/1/2011, 9:55 AM
It's gonna stink.
mikefont
mikefont - 3/1/2011, 9:58 AM
I truly hope that it's a good movie, cause I dont want to see it bomb! I myself though have reservations about Ryan Reynolds. He is much better suited to a DEADPOOL type of smart-ass character, and I think he may be out of place cast as Hal (and I have the same reservation with Chris Evans as Cap too, for the same reason!) I hope I'm wrong on that though...

But.... I will bet that GL will be MUCH better than the new Ghost Rider!!!! Jeez I CANNOT STAND Nicholas "F'in" Cage! That hack is just a truly AWFUL actor, and for the life of me I cannot understand why he keeps getting roles!

Looking forward to Thor, Green Lantern and Captain America! This is gonna be an awesome year at the movies!
RoscoeFolgers
RoscoeFolgers - 3/1/2011, 9:59 AM
@Spiderneil- You're complaining for the sake of complaining. I doubt your office exists, if someone doesn't like it all of a sudden everyone they know hates it. Your example of the dialogue is one line, you've only seen one construct, and your complaints about the theme and motivations are just you making up two more reasons because you don't want to acknowledge that neither Thor or Cap's footage revealed themes or motivations, but the themes and motivations for all three characters are there to see in their decades of comic history.

Notice people around here use the "I hope it's good" line as a safety button so nobody can criticize their nitpicking? I don't care if you don't like it, that's your business. But you're TRYING to find reasons not to like it.
spiderneil
spiderneil - 3/1/2011, 10:01 AM
to the writers of GL, after reading several iterations of hal jordan how does 'I know, right?!' fit into anything hal would say? the characterization seems badly off for the character, which is a shame because the movie for a lot of people who have never read the character will be the definative version of the character like with the iron man movie, tony stark is the definative version for the general audience.

AWFUL!
DiLusso
DiLusso - 3/1/2011, 10:02 AM
im a marvel fan and cant wait for gl. the only thing that bugs me is the cgi costume, which im sure will look better in post production.
p.s not a dc hater!
Minotauro
Minotauro - 3/1/2011, 10:02 AM
I'd be worried about Captain America, than GL @Dog. 33 second trailer, that has no flair of excitement. Only for the fact that it's his first appearance, with a history of failures.. Joe Johnston directed Wolfman, and that should tell you enough about what captain america will be.

Martin Campbell on the other hand, knows how to tell stories. Mask of Zorro, Casino Royale, Golden Eye, Vertical Limit, Edge of Darkness, etc..
spiderneil
spiderneil - 3/1/2011, 10:03 AM
@RoscoeFolgers

it's true it IS 'ONE' line and 'ONE' construct but it is the FIRST introduction to the character for the general audience. you never get a second chance to make a first impression and if the general are turned off by the trailer they wont bother to see the movie as there is loads of competition for 2011.

motivtion for thor: he is kicked out of asgard, has lost his powers and can't lift his hammer. his movitivation is OBVIOUS.

motivation for cap: harder to discern but gets a pass this is a teaser not a full blown trailer.
dfresh
dfresh - 3/1/2011, 10:04 AM
Why do people have such an issue with the few lines from the GL trailer (like "I know, right?!" as stated above), yet no one mentions how corny some of the lines tossed around in the Thor trailer are? Especially by the annoying girl from 40 year old virgin.
"This is going on Facebook"
"For a homeless guy, he's pretty cut"
Or Thor himself in "Oh no, this is Earth, isn't it?" or smashing a coffee cup on the ground because he enjoys it so much.

Let's be fair here mo'fos. These all have some corny dialog sprinkled in.
SmokinIndo
SmokinIndo - 3/1/2011, 10:06 AM
Good article. As a Marvel fan, I admit that I've jumped on the GL hating bandwagon a few times. I wanna come clean and admit that I think the GL trailer looks pretty good. The first time I saw the trailer, I was like "Oh my [frick]ing God this looks epic". I even showed my friend (who's also a Marvel fan) the trailer and he said it was godly.
GarthRanzz
GarthRanzz - 3/1/2011, 10:06 AM
What I love is the slanted views of Marvel Fan Boys.....

There hasn't even been a Captain America trailer. Just a tv commercial shorter than a movie trailer, yet no one outcries at the lack of footage of that.

For Green Lantern....the toys, the cartoon, the video game, are all marketing to the mainstream. Make GL a big deal for once the movie comes out.

As for advertising none of this matters until we get until a month and half out. The second trailer for Thor just came out, and the movie comes out a month before GL. How come we don't hold these movies to the same standards.

As for how important a teaser trailer is for a movie and its success tell me what you visually liked about the teaser trailer for the top grossing CBM of all time The Dark Knight.

As for those that are trying to guess what Hal would say upon getting the ring its kind of cheesy. Thor doesn't talk like he does on the comics. Where is the crying about that? "Thous is Earth?"
RoscoeFolgers
RoscoeFolgers - 3/1/2011, 10:09 AM
@CaNick- Hal isn't supposed to be funny? Open a Green Lantern book.
spiderneil
spiderneil - 3/1/2011, 10:11 AM
for the record GL has my $12 bucks but whether it will have the $12 bucks of the general audience (to be frank the only people that matter) is another matter entirely.
superdog
superdog - 3/1/2011, 10:11 AM
haha, thanks guys, ive been wanting to do this article for a while and finally just got the time. i am a huge COMIC fan. i admit i like dc maybe a tad better but i read everything and see everything. i hope they all do good, i just definately see a difference in the two studios.

galactus@ thats exactly while i used Warner Bros in the article and not DC. they are definately calling the shots and are an old school studio doing it the old way, as opposed to marvel who are new and do things differently.
Rango
Rango - 3/1/2011, 10:12 AM
its obvious.After the backlash and feedback of the disastrous trailer,they went back for heavy re-shoots and re-cutting and back to editing table to save some face and change the "tone" of the movie from "action comedy" to something salable and digestible.

GL biggest bomb of 2011.
spiderneil
spiderneil - 3/1/2011, 10:13 AM
@RoscoeFolgers

I read a few green lantern graphic novels and never got the impression he was a humorous character like say spidey or deadpool. 'I know, right?' sounds more like something kyle rayner would say.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/1/2011, 10:14 AM
well dfresh, the main diffrence is, those lines(most of em anyway..that chick did come across annoying) worked. Green Lantern himself showing his house mate his costume in his apartment and shouting "I KNOW RIGHT!" like some frat boy did not. Other than that I really liked the trailer by the way, I'm optimistic it will be a good flick.

Also, that coffee cup scene was frakkin awesome in Thor trailer:)

Great job anyway pooch, although I don't believe in the word hater. Someone is only a hater if they hate everything! There are a lot of impatient fanboys sure but what ya gonan do.
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