EDITORIAL: How Mark Ruffalo Could Be Joss Whedon's Hulk... Literally!

EDITORIAL: How Mark Ruffalo Could Be Joss Whedon's Hulk... Literally!

This article is based simply on speculation, but in any event you should get an interesting read out of this...

Editorial Opinion
By MarvelCinematicUniverse - Nov 06, 2010 09:11 PM EST
Filed Under: Hulk



To be fair, I am pretty much just blowing steam out of my ass in hopes of maybe being on to something here, so please bare with me on this.

At Comic-Con 2010 this year, when Marvel Studios finally unveiled "The Avengers" cast, director Joss Whedon or producer Kevin Feige (cant remember which, I think it was Feige) made a statement relating to Mark Ruffalo being cast as Dr. Bruce Banner, who turns into the angry green goliath when he becomes angry.

The statement went along the lines of Mark being Joss Whedon's Banner. Which Whedon has gone on record saying Ruffalo was his first and only choice to replace Edward Norton, so that is true.

Then we all know about the upcoming "Hulk" tv series in the works for ABC... now here is where I start reaching. What if Joss Whedon has involvement in the show, and Ruffalo may have been cast partially because Whedon felt Mark would fit his vision for his show?

Joss Whedon is first and foremost a big TV personality, being that he created "Buffy the Vampire Slayer", "Angel", "Firefly" and even "Dollhouse", so it would make sense for Marvel to utilize his involvement with "The Avengers" by having him also help out with a "Hulk" tv series.

A loophole however is that it is has been mentioned that the "Hulk" tv show could be its own thing, and could be completely seperated from the Marvel Cinematic Universe, hence it would not at all need Mark Ruffalo to reprise the role of Bruce Banner.

But let me say this, I personally think there is a great chance that is untrue and we will be seeing the same Banner from the Cinematic Universe in the show. Why? Simply because it would be beneficial to the show and Marvel.

Lets think this through, considering that we know for a fact that Mark Ruffalo has signed on to do five movies total as Bruce Banner, he is going to be committed to the role for a good while now. If the "Hulk" tv show is in its own continuity, we would have two different actors playing Banner at the same time.

Not that that cant work of course, Brandon Routh played Superman while Tom Welling was still in the role. But really, you run the risk of confusing audiences having two completely different Hulks at once.

I also think Marvel is smart enough to realise there have been way too many Banners already and it would be in there best interest to keep Mark Ruffalo for the show. But then you have to wonder if Mark Ruffalo would be willing to transition to television. I think yes.

Mark Ruffalo is hardly a huge star, he gets work and has a great resume of films, but he is highly expendable. He is getting up in age now, 42, and at this stage of his career it might be smart to make some kind of career change. Making the transition to tv really would work for Ruffalo because he is not solidified in film.

I also think Ruffalo fits a nice criteria of an actor that could leave the big screen for the smaller screen.

So, this was just an article to make people think really.
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bleedthefreak
bleedthefreak - 11/6/2010, 9:48 PM
makes sense certainly could be true. I think the reason people are not to confused by superman returns and smallville is the fact that smallville really is more about Clark then superman and hardly focuses on him being superman but instead just a random hero. With the hulk changing the name of the TV show would be kinda dumb but not doing so and having it not be in the same universe as the film would certainly add to the 2 hulk confusion. also what kind of secondary name could they give a hulk show if they wanted to avoid confusion?
The4thWall
The4thWall - 11/6/2010, 11:51 PM
Nice. I think you could make the show fit with the universe if you made it that it's set between Incredible Hulk and The Avengers. We could get a few good seasons out of that. That way, we could also have Ruffalo as Banner and we would acheive continuity. Just a thought...
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 11/7/2010, 3:30 AM
Yeah I've said this too, good stuff!

I am hoping its connected and we get a connected Universe with MARK!

If not MARK RUFFALLO can [frick] off lol!

Its the only reason I'm not screaming ED NORTON no more! : p

Still say tho HULK wont look gr8 on TV but PUNISHER would be [frick]ing AWESOME!!!!

Anyways, if (and they better) HAVE MARK RUFFALLO on the series, It'll bend my arm lol!

But otherwise and its not connected.... hell [frick]ing NO!

GR8 Editorial man! :)

Thumbs up!
Paulley
Paulley - 11/7/2010, 3:40 AM
Im still hoping its gonna be connected and have him star in the TV show and film... but its proberly not going to happen.

Also i noted something similar in my article Marvel always intended The Incredible Hulk to become a tv show?, where Tim Roth (TV's Dr Lightman in Lie To Me - TIH's Emil Blonsky) said he had signed on for 3 more appearances but said Marvel bring him back in a "very different way".. at the time it was all speculation about the movies but i think it was infact about a possible TV show
Angelus
Angelus - 11/7/2010, 4:34 AM
I am not the greatest Marvel fan but Norton was the way to go. Now it's more like The Incredible "Sulk".

BMP!
chaps
chaps - 11/7/2010, 4:39 AM
I was thinking the same thing that Ruffalo may do the tv show as well for the reasons you mentioned. It would be huge for Marvel and the Hulk franchise if he could play Banner on film and tv. Let's hope that's part of the plan...Marvel thinks outside the box, so it wouldn't surprise me at all.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 11/7/2010, 5:25 AM
One thing that needs thinking about is if these are two separate visions of the Hulk, what happens if the public prefer the TV Hulk to the Cinematic Hulk? The Avengers would suffer greatly.

I don't think movie actors see TV roles as a "step down" anymore. Since 24 came onto our screens TV shows have been smarter and more appealing to big name actors and there have been more and more movie actors choosing to take TV roles. Add to that what you say about Ruffalo not being a big name, I'm sure he will just be happy to have the work!
One2three
One2three - 11/7/2010, 6:15 AM


Heres the next Re-re-reboot to the neverending hulk adaptions
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 11/7/2010, 6:39 AM
Godzillafart - you can't really use Routh/Welling as an example. Welling plays a young Clark finding his way to becoming Superman while Routh played Clark at a later stage in life where he was already Superman. It's essentially two different characters. The only way you could compare them to this situation is if the TV show was going to be stricly about Bruce Banner doing his research before becoming the hulk, but that would be dull and coma inducing.

The biggest problem is Hulks single dimensional character. Superman at least has a rich character that can lend itself to different interpretations but the Hulk as a character doesn't have what it takes to hold public interest in two "different" versions at the same time.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 11/7/2010, 6:58 AM
If they don't connect it to the movies then FORGET IT!

Don't want another Smallville on the air! : P
Ryden
Ryden - 11/7/2010, 7:55 AM
People wouldn't get confused. People would know there's a Hulk tv series and a Hulk that is in the movies, it's easy to figure out.


@LEEE- Are you kidding? It makes NO sense to connect it to the films. There should be a Marvel Cinematic Universe and a Marvel Television Universe, two very seperate things. It only makes sense. I hope Ruffallo doesn't go near this TV show.

Ryden
Ryden - 11/7/2010, 9:18 AM
@intruder- I understand that, but I just think it doesn't work. To have two seperate universes is much more interesting. Cameos work within movies, and within TV shows....just don't cross the platforms. That's when things get muddled up. Besides, a lot of these guys are big stars, a lot of them, Ruffallo included probably wouldn't commit to a TV series. So for all those complaining about re-casts etc etc a television series connected to the MCU is the worst thing imaginable.

Have two seperate Universes, that way everyone knows who's who, no complications.
Paulley
Paulley - 11/7/2010, 9:42 AM
@Ryden why not, it should be Marvel Live Action Universe.. some characters will never get to the big screen and i would still like them to be connected with the wider universe.

SHIELD agents make great connections.. and how awesome would be to see Bruce Banner watch "WHiH Wold News" and see them reporting on Iron Man Tony Stark.. (one of the news reports from the films playing).. little hings like that make all the difference in my book
ThunderCougarFalconBird
ThunderCougarFalconBird - 11/7/2010, 10:12 AM
Godzillafart - I have to hold my hands up and concede to you sir! I'm not a big reader of the green guy and most of what I know him has been his various on screen handlings. I have to agree with everything in your comment but surely if that's how I perceived him the general public will be less inclined to look deeper into the character.

As for Superman, again, I fully agree! The honest truth that people don't seem to want to admit is that none of the Superman movies were good enough for the character. Sure Donner's first couple of films were decent (and even groundbreaking in areas) for their time but were they really a good enough representation of the character and his universe? I think not. People also forget that Reeve (in his costars words) was a "big headed jerk". He believed his own hype and was a selfish man until his accident. He then changed and in effect made a martyr of himself. As a result, his Superman is the diffinative take on the character. Personally, you won't beat the Tim Daly/George Newburn animated series/JL versions and I hope they take that route for the new movie.
deathoncredit
deathoncredit - 11/7/2010, 10:26 AM
Ryden, while I think that they could easily connect the TV show to the cinematic universe, I agree with you that it wouldn't be confusing if they didn't. People have a tendency to over-exaggerate the stupidity of your average audience.

"Hey, an Incredible Hulk TV show...wait a minute, wait a minute...this has a different actor than in the movies! Oh no! *turns off the TV and runs and hides under their blankets* I'm scared and confused!"
JackJNapier
JackJNapier - 11/7/2010, 10:45 AM
I don't want them to do a tv show, cus when it doesn't work, and it wont, they will have exhausted every resource in the industy and failed. I just want them to have a little break and 2-3 years from now makes a Inc HULK 2
nld3
nld3 - 11/7/2010, 10:56 AM
I don't see any problems with there being two Hulks & two Banners. Movies & TV shows are different mediums. People understand it. A Movie comes out every two to three years sometimes maybe more. They will not be confused. The TV show could be on season 4 before the nexy Hulk movie comes out.
Paulley
Paulley - 11/7/2010, 11:35 AM
Donner's Superman, and Bill Bixby's The Incredible Hulk were good back in their day.

I cant sit through a Donner Superman movie anymore.. stupid plot holes and bad writing.. same way now i can watch the parts of The Incredible Hulk that actually feature the Hulk because they look so stupid (luckyl the Bill Bixby part are still watchable).

But i will say The Hulk is a very complex character though non of those complexities have been explored on film or tv. If the CGI is to good standard and the stories are not poop (basically the complete opposite to Smallville) then i say go for it
HULK2099
HULK2099 - 11/7/2010, 11:58 AM
still hate this hulk tv show thing its useless, and other characters deserve their shot to be on camera
FutureCBMHero
FutureCBMHero - 11/7/2010, 1:36 PM
Interesting thought.



But just for the record, despite Hollywood being very much about youth and beauty, male actors really hit their primes in the 40's, not like women who for the most part hit their primes much much earlier.
Suzanne
Suzanne - 11/7/2010, 3:05 PM
I don't think that the TV and Movie Bruce Banner should be played by the same guy.

Ed Norton would make the best Bruce Banner.
RaMan
RaMan - 11/7/2010, 3:17 PM
When I first saw TIH, my immediate thought was

"Would be nice if they come up with a Hulk TV series".

Lo and behold they now are. My guess is they will not use Ruffalo and instead use another actor to play TV Hulk which would prob. start from the First 5 years that Banner is a fugitive after he becomes Hulk the first time and TIH movie is where it is left off. Just a guess.
Ryden
Ryden - 11/7/2010, 4:04 PM
@Paulley- I just don't think it's very practical. Besides, I think there are a LOT of characters that are considered obscure that have movie potential and Marvel knows this. Case in point, Ka-Zar aqnd Nighthawk. I have to say, I mean I consider myself to be fairly knolwedagable of the Marvel Universe but before there was murmurs of movies about these two properties I had never heard of them. Marvel isn't stupid, superheroes are in high demand right now. And Marvel's got plenty at thier disposal.

As for the TV series, I think it would be much more interesting if Marvel created two seperate Universes. One for the movies, and one for TV. The TV one, would feature cameos from other series. Like they're gonna head with this Hulk one, but we may see a cameo from Nick Fury. Because he has his own series, and it go on and on.

A superhero show CAN be done right, it just depends on whos working on it. It doesn't always have to end up like Smallville.

I just think it makes much more sense, to have the seperation because has someone has already mentioned, the writing and effects of a movie versus a TV series is vastly different. And it would cause major continuity problems.

@Godzillafart- Couldn't have put it better myself.

@deathoncredit- Yeah exactly, people really do underestimate the general public.
Rango
Rango - 11/8/2010, 1:30 AM
dont like rufallo..his a bit oot of shape,lethargic and old for banner
Suzanne
Suzanne - 11/8/2010, 2:06 PM
The numbers don't back up that the sequel to The Incredible Hulk movie everyone wants. Infact it shows the exact opposite of that.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 11/8/2010, 3:26 PM
RYDEN @ Your on your own buddy!

iT HAS TO CONNECT OR IT'LL TURN INTO sMALLVILLE SH1t!

Oops! : D
BetaRayB
BetaRayB - 11/8/2010, 4:26 PM
The studio guys were all talking about how The Avengers was just setting up something HUGE down the road. So what if Hulk gets sent off into space at the end of The Avengers, the TV series is Planet Hulk and they're prepping the way for a World War Hulk movie extravaganza with a ton of the Marvel Universe in it down the road? Who knows.
WingmanFalco
WingmanFalco - 11/12/2010, 2:08 PM
maybe the reason they dropped Norton is because he wouldn't agree to do a T.V crossover... meaning Ruffalo would be in the series, just a thought
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