JUSTICE LEAGUE: Zack Snyder Reveals His Original Plan For Batman Villain The Riddler In A Sequel

JUSTICE LEAGUE: Zack Snyder Reveals His Original Plan For Batman Villain The Riddler In A Sequel

Yes, The Riddler was set to factor into a Justice League 2 had it happened, and filmmaker Zack Snyder has now explained what was planned for his confrontation with Batman...and a team-up with Lex Luthor!

By JoshWilding - Mar 10, 2021 03:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Justice League
Source: Beyond The Trailer

Zack Snyder is doing the rounds to promote his upcoming cut of Justice League, and while he's admitted that a sequel is highly unlikely, the filmmaker did once have two follow-ups mapped out.

That was set to be a two-part epic involving Darkseid, time-travel, the Knightmare timeline, and even classic Batman villain The Riddler. Talking to Beyond The Trailer, the filmmaker revealed that there were tentative talks about Edward Nygma being part of Ben Affleck's take on The Batman.

"At that point, Ben [Affleck] was considering it," Snyder explained, "but I don't think he'd committed to directing it yet. It was that early."

"I liked the use of Riddler by Lex to figure out [the Anti-Life Equation]," he said of The Riddler's place in a Justice League sequel. "I thought that as a concept was really cool that we would employ him to understand it. It's a big equation, it's a mystery, and he's the one that could decipher it, and he does, but you'll have to read the thing to find out." Snyder added that he "thought it was pretty cool. He's like a tool. And he was doing it for Lex."

The filmmaker concluded by revealing, "The fact that Batman's journey at that part of the movie is to try and find out what Lex is up to. So he would have tracked him to this place where he was working it out. It's just like a movie moment where he's following the traces of the mystery to find him."

It's fascinating to think about just how ambitious Snyder's plans for the DC Extended Universe once were, as his vision for these Justice League movies also included the Injustice League/Legion of Doom at one time.

How do we know that? Well, you can read a detailed breakdown of the sequel's plot by clicking here

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Cap1
Cap1 - 3/10/2021, 3:34 AM
Rewatched JL yesterday, the only redeeming factor is Wonder Woman’s entrance. That’s better than the entire cluster[frick] that was WW84. Otherwise it’s so bad lol least Snyder Cut cant be worse
Vision85
Vision85 - 3/10/2021, 3:39 AM
@Cap1 - It has been deemed as worse by many here. They've not seen it, but they know.
HubbleFunk
HubbleFunk - 3/10/2021, 3:47 AM
@Vision85 - It should be tonally consistent at the least and not feature a CGI upper lip.
But 4hrs long doesn't bode well for pacing and the leaks have proven the CGI is left wanting..
SnideCut
SnideCut - 3/10/2021, 3:48 AM
@Cap1 - it also has the best version of Superman among all the snyder films imo. Thats on Joss.
Origame
Origame - 3/10/2021, 3:49 AM
@Vision85 - sounds more like stubbornness then knowing.
Cap1
Cap1 - 3/10/2021, 4:30 AM
@SnideCut - That's true, just hard to see a character past his CGI Jaw. His reunion with Lois is woeful too, but that's Snyder, right?
MahN166A
MahN166A - 3/10/2021, 3:39 AM
Deborah Snyder Article-1 hr ago.

Darkseid and Steppenwolf Article-20 mins ago.

This article-2 mins ago.

This man is on a roll!

Nevertheless...

Riddler being involved in this is as useful as Leto’s Joker being inserted for shock and awe.

The Justice Leak is proving to be inconsequential.
Smoothcat
Smoothcat - 3/10/2021, 3:41 AM
Lol
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 3/10/2021, 3:43 AM
Riddler working out the anti-life equation?! Seems like quite a step up for old E. Nygma.

aresww3
aresww3 - 3/10/2021, 5:58 AM
@TheManWithoutFear - "I thought that as a concept was really cool that we would employ him to understand it. It's a big equation, it's a mystery, and he's the one that could decipher it, and he does, but you'll have to read the thing to find out."

like, dude, riddler doesn't have super riddle solving powers lol
DoctorDoom616
DoctorDoom616 - 3/10/2021, 6:23 AM
@TheManWithoutFear - Further proof that Snyder doesn't understand or know most DC characters.
HubbleFunk
HubbleFunk - 3/10/2021, 3:45 AM
Zack had in his outline that Riddler would put a bullet in his own head. No better way to build a shared universe than kill off the characters ASAP, ain't that right Jimmy Olsen?
Origame
Origame - 3/10/2021, 3:51 AM
@HubbleFunk - wasn't the idea he'd be in the batman? So that's a solo movie then a team up. In comparison to the mcu with villains that's a huge step up.
JustAChillDude
JustAChillDude - 3/10/2021, 3:53 AM
@Origame - Not really, it just sounds shallow.
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 3/10/2021, 4:46 AM
@Origame - Well no the original idea for the batman would be that it was Deathstroke. At least when Affleck was doing it
Origame
Origame - 3/10/2021, 5:05 AM
@Mrcool210 - what you need to remember is that this plan for justice league was while they were still negotiating with Affleck about directing. So no doubt the plan was to have riddler there, even if he wasn't the main villain.
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 3/10/2021, 5:59 AM
@HubbleFunk - But if Flash is meant to go back into the past and change things wouldn't it make all of these losses come back? Or am I just thinking too far ahead?
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 3/10/2021, 3:45 AM
Since Eisenberg's Lex already felt more like The Riddler than Lex to me, I think it would have made no difference to have Lex figure it out himself. He supposed to be smart too.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 3/10/2021, 3:49 AM
So many of the themes in Snyder's 3-movie vision were already explored in JL Dark Apokolips War. The difference is that despite the edginess in that movie, I was still invested in seeing the payoff from the previous animated stuff.

Look at this shit
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 3/10/2021, 3:51 AM
Supercuck aside, of all the other things that...hell, even sounded pretty damn cool, this one bit i disliked.

Cause the way i view the Anti-Life equation (or the Source) it's something esoteric, something beyond the human mind, making Riddler figuring out the secrets of the universe because "lel, i'm smrt, yo" is shallow af.
JFerguson
JFerguson - 3/10/2021, 3:59 AM
@Doomsday8888 - Supercuck should have been a symbol of hope immediately after Man of Steel. Wasted potential for supercuck.

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